Brooklyn Nets want Josh Smith

[Hawk4Playoffs]

The Brooklyn Nets are aggressively pursuing a trade for Atlanta Hawks star forward Josh Smith, league sources told ESPN.

The two teams are engaged in discussions, but one source said while "there has been lots of talk, nothing is close yet."

"The Nets are willing to give up Humphries and second-year shooting guard MarShon Brooks for Smith. But it almost certainly will take more than a Humphries-Brooks combination to pry Smith away from Atlanta, and one source said the Hawks want Brooklyn's first-round pick.

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8934969/

umm... I really hope the hawks aren't considering this. That's a terrible trade. The only person I would want from the Nets is Brook Lopez and I'm sure Nets don't want to trade him. Hopefully just a bad rumor.

[Rip2137]

Yeah, the right to pay Kris Humpbries 12 million next year and Marshon Brooks is definitely not worth it. Hell nierther guy should start on this team....so no.

I would do Wallace/Blatche/brooks though.

[Hawk4Playoffs]

Yeah, the right to pay Kris Humpbries 12 million next year and Marshon Brooks is definitely not worth it. Hell nierther guy should start on this team....so no.

I would do Wallace/Blatche/brooks though.

why would u want gerald wallace for 10 million a year for the next 3 years? I would much rather max smoove then take back wallace.

[MaceCase]

And I want Kate Upton. Think we could expand the trade to get it done for all sides? I'll send out a pack of certs and a keychain bottle opener, you know, so it works under the cap.

[Nanogeek]

How about this deal?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=b3clt4b

Nets get Josh Smith, Deandre Jordan

Hawks get Lamar Odom, Eric Bledsoe, Marshon Brooks

Clippers get Brook Lopez, Gerald Wallace

Nets upgrade the SF position and get downgrade their C offense but upgrade their C defense

Hawks get useful low cost assets and cap relief for an asset they'd likely lose to free agency for nothing.

Clippers take on Wallace's bad contract but boost their C offense with Lopez in a bid to keep Paul.

[tcorbin]

How about this deal?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=b3clt4b

Nets get Josh Smith, Deandre Jordan

Hawks get Lamar Odom, Eric Bledsoe, Marshon Brooks

Clippers get Brook Lopez, Gerald Wallace

Nets upgrade the SF position and get downgrade their C offense but upgrade their C defense

Hawks get useful low cost assets and cap relief for an asset they'd likely lose to free agency for nothing.

Clippers take on Wallace's bad contract but boost their C offense with Lopez in a bid to keep Paul.

.......... Intriguing,.... i am now interested.

but i don't see the Nets trading away Brook Lopez

[MaceCase]

So a trade that has all the young centers going elsewhere but oh, the Hawks get another athletic PG to develop in addition to the one they already have?

It's not just about getting something, it's about getting something the Hawks can use. All a trade like that will guarantee is the Hawks having to make another move either with Teague or Bledsoe shortly down the line where the target will be......you guessed it, a big man.

Maybe if the Hawks want to cut bait on having to resign Teague too, yea.

[tcorbin]

^ I agree, i'm a big Eric Bledsoe fan, but the Hawks already have Teague, Louis, and Jenkins, so for me, its a reluctant 'no' even though i think Bledsoe could be as good as Westbrook one day if given a chance as a starter.

[Jamaaliver]

Just think.

This time last year the Hawks were shopping Josh.

This time last year the Nets were shopping their 1st round pick.

If we had been proactive, we could have made this trade a year ago for their 2012 lottery pick.
(They panicked and settled for acquiring Gerald Wallace while Josh was putting up the best numbers of his life.)

Which leads to a question:

Is there still a rule in place that prevents teams from trading their own 1st round picks in consecutive years?

[myrak433]

sure trade our best player for something we don't need. if DF comes to the conclusion that he must trade Josh why not bet something that will be beneficial. get a true center and see how Horford plays with a center.

Jazz/Hawks/Nets

Jazz out: Al Jefferson --- In: Wallace and Anthony Morrow

Nets out: Wallace, MarShon Brooks, 2014 1st-------- Josh Smith

Atlanta out: Josh Smith and Antony Morrow------ in Jefferson, Brooks, 2014 1st.

not sure How the Jazz feel about allocating so much money at the SF position with Marvin and Wallace. but Marvin can play SG, SF, and PF.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine.

with this trade we could see if Horford does or doesn't play better with the center he has been crying for. if he does than keep Al, if he doesn't then move him for some first round picks and make a decision to keep Jefferson or let him walk and build a team through the draft and get some real free agent players in here with all the money under the cap we would have.

[Rip2137]

Yeah, the right to pay Kris Humpbries 12 million next year and Marshon Brooks is definitely not worth it. Hell nierther guy should start on this team....so no.

I would do Wallace/Blatche/brooks though.

why would u want gerald wallace for 10 million a year for the next 3 years? I would much rather max smoove then take back wallace.

Because Humphries sucks. With that trade we can Have a starting SF and PF/C to add to the lineupe, Wallace gives the defensive hustle and garbage plays that Josh gives you, Blatche is better offensively and can rebound, Brooks can either start or be productive off the bench.

I think Josh + Jenkins could get that trade done. Basically we would be a better team I think.

[parson]

One thing that seems to always throw us fans into a tizzy is that the other teams talk to reporters but our guys don't (or maybe the Atlanta reporters don't get any respect).

This news is obviously from the Nets' side. Humphries? He's no better than Ivan, seriously. He can't even play starter's minutes on a team with no PF. Look at 5.9 pts and 6.4 rebounds per game with a PER of 13.65 in 20 min/game. But his contract: $12 million per for 3 years? Wallace? A 30 yr-old playing 30 min/game yet with only 8.9 pts, 2.7 assists, 5.0 rebounds and a PER 13.01? He's finished as a player (but not as a contract- 3 years at $10 million per). We'd be doing them a favor by taking those contracts off their hands. The 1st? In Ferry's hands, I'd be interested but it'd be a late one, especially if we helped them with Smith.

Then let me add that we're invested in BKN's failure: the right to swap the 2014 and 2015 picks will be ruined if we help them have a better record.

All they have that wouldn't hurt us is Lopez. They are an old, athletically-challenged team that's not going to get any better for awhile.

[MaceCase]

One thing that seems to always throw us fans into a tizzy is that the other teams talk to reporters but our guys don't (or maybe the Atlanta reporters don't get any respect).

One paper town. Team officials and players don't feel obligated or even interested with talking to Atlanta media. Remember BK's downright confrontational attitude towards reporters......if they could even get a word out of him? No more coverage on draft pick workouts because of a piece Jay Walker wrote?

The AJC doesn't help out much with their hires either. Sekou was well connected and respected around the league, obvious from the fact he parlayed that into a job with NBA.com/TV itself. He got a lot of inside scoops on even the day to day in the lockerroom but even he would talk about aspects he's been locked out from with management.

Cunningham was nowhere as well connected but he was well versed on stats and the CBA so he'd ask hard hitting questions in relation to them.

Vivlamore.......er, it's an issue when even the guys at Peachtree hoops are out-scooping the poor guy. He strikes me as that one painfully mediocre guy at the office that has managed a long yet unspectacular career just by being competent enough and never rocking the boat on any issues.

[Jamaaliver]

Cunningham was nowhere as well connected but he was well versed on stats and the CBA so he'd ask hard hitting questions in relation to them.

Vivlamore.......er, it's an issue when even the guys at Peachtree hoops are out-scooping the poor guy.

What was the deal with replacing Cunningham anyway? Did he get demoted or something?

Groomed for something bigger?

Also, poor JJ. He finally gets away from Josh and 6 months later is on the verge of getting reunited.....

[Rip2137]

Or in the slightly more logical way of looking at it, the Nets consulted with the guy they are paying 20 mil a year and asked if josh is a good teammate and good fit and he said yes. Just seems that Joe doesn't share your opinion of Josh "locker room Cancer" Smith.

Actually has any teamate, past or present ever even hinted at a negative comment about Josh?

[Jamaaliver]

Actually has any teamate, past or present ever even hinted at a negative comment about Josh?

Never by name. Just veiled comments after suspensions, or being benched.

But no teammate ever spoke ill of JJ, either.

No one ever spoke ill of Woody. Or Sund. Or Billy Knight.

I think ATL basketball is like purgatory. Once you leave there you never ever speak of it again.

Like the island on LOST.

I predict that should Josh get traded to Brooklyn, his numbers will impress, but team chemistry and their record will suffer. Josh is almost in stat stuffer mode at this point.

No way Deron allows Josh to run the fast break.
No way Carlesimo allows Josh to shoot 18 footers and three pointers ad nauseam.
No way Josh accepts being the 4th option.

And with a dozen papers and constant media coverage, every grumble and pout will be broadcast all over the 'net.

It's gonna make great TV, since he won't be on our team.

I also predict the Hawks go on a Celtics like run with Smoove the ball stopper gone.

[Jamaaliver]

From Coach P. J. Carlesimo to every starter, the Nets bemoaned an inability to fight through trouble, to keep their heads, to respond constructively and to play with a singular purpose. In the aftermath, there were hints of a fractured locker room.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/11/sports/basketball/nets-fade-in-second-half-and-fall-to-spurs.html?_r=0

Man, sounds like a very healthy place to add a player like Josh Smith.

We all know he's such an easy player to coach and co-exist with.

The Nets have enough fight, “but the fight right now is in the wrong direction,” Wallace said. “Everybody is wanting to fight individually, instead of pulling together as a team. And that’s fighting as the Brooklyn Nets.”

[HMFFL]

I'd for us to receive a better return, but Josh Smith seems to draw little interest, and it's probably due to the way he plays. Let's hope for a better return.

[parson]

I also predict the Hawks go on a Celtics like run with Smoove the ball stopper gone.

What you may be forgetting is that we have 2 big men who are any good: Smith and Horford. Just 2.

And Horford's getting beat up at Center. I think we can all see that now. 2 years ago, when he was healthy, I argued he could play Center. He can, just not for years on end. Without Smith, we have Zaza at Center, Horford at PF and ... we'll stink.

We need a good Center for Smith - or a quality young prospective Center, as Ferry is saying.

How may draft picks would we have to offer DET - with Smith - to get Drummond?

[Jamaaliver]

What you may be forgetting is that we have 2 big men who are any good: Smith and Horford. Just 2.

How may draft picks would we have to offer DET - with Smith - to get Drummond?

Good point.

I've heard that Drummond is held in especially high regard in DET. We might have a better shot at getting Greg Monroe than Drummond. (And we'd probably have to take back a bad contract.)

We REALLY should have traded Josh when his stock was at an ALL TIME HIGH last year.

Breaks my heart to see us wait til the last minute and get pennies on the dollar.