Official Speculation Thread (Pt. L "Trade Deadline" Edition)

[rcklsscognition]

I keep getting this feeling that nothing significant will happen, but I also o.ce said that Ronnie brewer would be a better NBA player than jj redick. So there's that....

I can't fathom them standing pat at the deadline, but I have consistently been disappointed by the trade deadline so you're probably right.

[KillMonger]

Trading JJ must happen imo, we got to cash out while the chips are valuable. Strike while the iron's hot so to speak, sure we can keep him and then trade him in the summer but there are risks to waiting that long. One, what if he gets injured later on in the season and has to have surgery in the summer? sort of kills some of our potential deals. Two, what if we keep him and let him become a FA but he gets priced out of our range? i'm sure we'll talk and come to an understanding before he becomes a FA but when that Dollar Figure comes up that he can't refuse then what? I know it's a lot of "What if's" but honestly anything can happen

Do we match his big deal and get killed by the CBA when the new yearly provisions kick in? Or do we just let him walk and get nothing back for a player so valuable? Man i would hate to be Henny around this time, he has some really tough decisions to make

[rcklsscognition]

Trading JJ must happen imo, we got to cash out while the chips are valuable. Strike while the iron's hot so to speak, sure we can keep him and then trade him in the summer but there are risks to waiting that long. One, what if he gets injured later on in the season and has to have surgery in the summer? sort of kills some of our potential deals. Two, what if we keep him and let him become a FA but he gets priced out of our range? i'm sure we'll talk and come to an understanding before he becomes a FA but when that Dollar Figure comes up that he can't refuse then what? I know it's a lot of "What if's" but honestly anything can happen

Do we match his big deal and get killed by the CBA when the new yearly provisions kick in? Or do we just let him walk and get nothing back for a player so valuable? Man i would hate to be Henny around this time, he has some really tough decisions to make

I agree we need to trade him. But, he is unrestricted, so we can't really match an offer. I guess his agent could come to Henny and say, we've got a 7.5 million dollar deal with Chicago, if you can beat that, we'll stay in Orlando.

I also don't think he's going to get overpaid somewhere. Average salary for someone like JJ is 5.25 million. He's a borderline starter or 6th man, and they really don't get paid that much. I think if he could nab a starting spot somewhere, he could get upwards of 7-8 mil a year. Contracts have come down since he signed his last deal. I don't think we can pay him more than Afflalo either, especially if JJ is not starting.

I don't think Henny is worried about the money, but I hope he is thinking about 3-4 years from now, and what JJ will be like then, and what a player or draft pick we could get for him will be like in 3-4 years.

[Bensational]

I don't think Henny is worried about the money, but I hope he is thinking about 3-4 years from now, and what JJ will be like then, and what a player or draft pick we could get for him will be like in 3-4 years.

I'm sure Henny is across it. He clearly knows what he wants, and can get, out of the draft, given his success with youth on this team. but i'd also wager he's got a fair idea of how successful prospects will be from draft position 16 onwards. and if he's not biting on a deal that's offering one of those picks, it's probably because he's not confident in those players. doesn't mean there aren't players that can be successful from those positions, but it's how confident you can be. with JJ, you KNOW what you're getting. with a late 1st rd pick in a reportedly weak draft, you can only hope.

also, let's not forget that Henny wasn't able to land any draft picks earlier than 2014. that says something for either, how reluctant teams were to give up their picks, to how much he valued picks in recent drafts, to the window within which he hopes to land some star talent. most of our owed picks are 2015-2017. if he's looking to do a traditional rebuild and load up on talent, wouldn't you think he would have stockpiled picks in the short term? i'm hoping that he's got some kind of plan to fill the window between now and then, and that he's not just working on a contingency plan now that Harden has been moved.

[Bensational]

would you guys trade our pick (top 1 protected) and jj to okc for lamb and the toronto pick?

i'm not a fan of dealing JJ, but that deal makes a lot of sense. i'm up in the air on giving up a pick that's got high potential to be top 3 for whatever the Raps end up with, but if Henny feels like his man (Smart/Bazz/McLemore/MCW/McCollum) might be there at their pick, then why not?

trading JJ for someone like Lamb is something that makes sense to me. we've seen how good he can be. we know his skills. we know he was a lottery pick in what's proving to be a much more solid draft than first thought.

props for a solid idea. i just think the risk of losing out on a top 3 pick is too much for Henny to give up on. but that's entirely up to Henny to decide.

[glennathan]

I think the idea of people liking Jeremy Lamb because he is a lottery pick is a bit much. Need I remind some of you of this... --- Fran Vasquez was nearly a lotto pick. Missed by one pick. Look how that turned out.

[Rick Rolled]

I think the idea of people liking Jeremy Lamb because he is a lottery pick is a bit much. Need I remind some of you of this... --- Fran Vasquez was nearly a lotto pick. Missed by one pick. Look how that turned out.

Fran actually was a lottery pick.

But he was one pick away from top 10.

[rcklsscognition]

Toronto could make the playoffs, not sure I'd want their pick in a swap. I guess it could end up being JJ and a top 3 pick for Lamb (12th pick) and what might be something similar to a 12th pick this summer. No thanks.

[Cigamodnalro]

I think the idea of people liking Jeremy Lamb because he is a lottery pick is a bit much. Need I remind some of you of this... --- Fran Vasquez was nearly a lotto pick. Missed by one pick. Look how that turned out.

Fran actually was a lottery pick.

But he was one pick away from top 10.

Fran also wasn't a horrible player. #1 shotblocker per minute in the entire Euroleague for two of the past three years. It's a shame how he spurned us, but there are worse examples of actual "busts" out there.

[Rick Rolled]

I think the idea of people liking Jeremy Lamb because he is a lottery pick is a bit much. Need I remind some of you of this... --- Fran Vasquez was nearly a lotto pick. Missed by one pick. Look how that turned out.

Fran actually was a lottery pick.

But he was one pick away from top 10.

Fran also wasn't a horrible player. #1 shotblocker per minute in the entire Euroleague for two of the past three years. It's a shame how he spurned us, but there are worse examples of actual "busts" out there.

Yup, unfortunately, p*$$ywhipped wasn't in the scouting report.

[magicman123]

would you guys trade our pick (top 1 protected) and jj to okc for lamb and the toronto pick?

i like lamb, but ill pass on that, a top 3 pick is way more valuable than maybe the 10-12th pick

[OrlandO]

Noel just went down after blocking a shot and hitting his knee into the goal... down on the court yelling in pain. Teammates had to carry him off the floor. Of course it happens against a FL team....

[rcklsscognition]

http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/201 ... ain-video/

Here's the Noel Injury

[arsenal6106]

http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2013/02/12/nerlens-noel-suffered-a-knee-injury-and-was-writhing-around-on-the-floor-screaming-in-pain-video/

Here's the Noel Injury

Looks like he has a brace on that injured knee. Did he have a previous knee injury?

[trebone]

Everyone here seems to forget with the new cba the middle class of the NBA is on its way out any team without cap space will not offer more than the mle and unless a team truly thinks jj is the difference he will nit get more than 7 per, the days of overpaying IMO are over. The contenders will not offer him big money he is worth more to Orlando than any other team will offer 4/28 so I think our best bet would be to trade AA redicks game plays well with age

[trebone]

http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2013/02/12/nerlens-noel-suffered-a-knee-injury-and-was-writhing-around-on-the-floor-screaming-in-pain-video/

Here's the Noel Injury

And the 2013 draft gets even weaker

[glennathan]

Just saw that injury... Ouch... Can only hope he is not seriously hurt and wish a speedy recovery

[MagicFan41]

Perfect. We draft Noel....sit him out for year with the injury, get #1 pick in 2014 draft. He comes back healthy paired with Wiggins. Welcome to the Spurs of the next decade

[thelead]

Perfect. We draft Noel....sit him out for year with the injury, get #1 pick in 2014 draft. He comes back healthy paired with Wiggins. Welcome to the Spurs of the next decade

If he was a can't miss all-star prospect, sure. But he's not, so he'll stay in school if it's as bad as it looked. Interesting wat to look at it though I like how you're thinking though (Wiggins)

[IGotDaMagicInMe]

If the bulls are willing to trade charlotte's pick that wouldn't be bad