Around the NBA part 4

Post #1142 » by **j4remi** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:53 am

GettinitDone wrote:Smh at Lin "not being able to handle pressure from Chalmers and Cole". Last I check those two are role players and did they ever come close to shunning LeBron/ Wade to do breakaway dunk like Lin did Harden?

Did they ever score 38pts in a game when LeBron/ Wade/ Bosh out?

Melo as a rookie in 2003-04 put up several single-digit games, but didn't hear anyone saying the guys defending him in those games being his stopper? Even in his second year, Melo was shooting like 38 FG% in first half of that 2004-05 season, he put up MANY 3-15, 2-14 shooting games in that season's first few months (I know, I was a Nuggets fan back then). Were the guys defending him in those games a Melo stopper now? My point is: great players when they're young (in their first 2-3 years in L) are bound to have these types of games. Lin just had 1 bad game in Miami, you guys still used it to this day to bash him? You all have awfully high standard for young players, no wonder Knicks are never able to keep young good players from being traded/ signed by other teams.

Lol at Lin being huge distraction This is New York, the Knicks, people! Everything here is a huge distraction. And Rockets do not find him being a distraction at all.

Lin does bad every time against the Heat, they just have his number.

http://www.nba.com/games/20130206/HOUMIA/gameinfo.html

6 days ago he had 13 points on 30% shooting, 3 assists to 2 TO's against the Heat.

kNicksGmen · Post #1143 » by **kNicksGmen** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:07 am

i wish we had home cookin like the heat. the calls down the stretch were amazingly one sided.

knicks94 · Post #1144 » by **knicks94** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:30 am

Thugger HBC wrote:I wanna know who are these 4 players that could have won 6 rings in Jordans era?

Keep in mind these dudes would have to actually play the Bulls and win.

Give either Lebron, Durant, Kobe or Wade a top notch coach and a top 50 player to pair up with and they would have been able to accomplish what Jordan accomplished in the 90's.

Post #1145 » by **GONYK** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:31 am

knicks94 wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:I wanna know who are these 4 players that could have won 6 rings in Jordans era?

Keep in mind these dudes would have to actually play the Bulls and win.

Give either Lebron, Durant, Kobe or Wade a top notch coach and a top 50 player to pair up with and they would have been able to accomplish what Jordan accomplished in the 90's.

Not with Jordan still playing

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #1146 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:32 am

knicks94 wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:I wanna know who are these 4 players that could have won 6 rings in Jordans era?

Keep in mind these dudes would have to actually play the Bulls and win.

Give either Lebron, Durant, Kobe or Wade a top notch coach and a top 50 player to pair up with and they would have been able to accomplish what Jordan accomplished in the 90's.

Post #1147 » by **j4remi** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:34 am

GONYK wrote:
knicks94 wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:I wanna know who are these 4 players that could have won 6 rings in Jordans era?

Keep in mind these dudes would have to actually play the Bulls and win.

Give either Lebron, Durant, Kobe or Wade a top notch coach and a top 50 player to pair up with and they would have been able to accomplish what Jordan accomplished in the 90's.

Not with Jordan still playing

The Bad Boy Pistons, Drexler's Blazers, Payton/Kemp Sonic, Hakeem's Rockets, and of course our Bully Knicks...I don't think any of those guys would sniff more than maybe one or two titles...and that's if Jordan's not in the league. With Jordan, they don't do JACK.

knicks94 · Post #1148 » by **knicks94** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:34 am

GONYK wrote:
knicks94 wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:I wanna know who are these 4 players that could have won 6 rings in Jordans era?

Keep in mind these dudes would have to actually play the Bulls and win.

Give either Lebron, Durant, Kobe or Wade a top notch coach and a top 50 player to pair up with and they would have been able to accomplish what Jordan accomplished in the 90's.

Not with Jordan still playing

You think Jordan would have won 6 rings without either Phil Jackson or Pippen?

Post #1149 » by **GONYK** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:36 am

knicks94 wrote:
You think Jordan would have won 6 rings without either Phil Jackson or Pippen?

No, but Lebron had Wade and Bosh and plays in a watered down league where you can't play defense, and he still couldn't bring it all home 2 yrs ago.

I doubt he, Wade, or Durant is winning 6 in Jordan's NBA

AllanHoustonFan · Post #1150 » by **AllanHoustonFan** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:43 am

The only player in today's era that could win in the 90's in Lebron James.

Post #1151 » by **GONYK** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:44 am

AllanHoustonFan wrote:The only player in today's era that could win in the 90's in Lebron James.

I'd put Kobe up there too

Neither are touching Jordan though

knicks94 · Post #1152 » by **knicks94** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:44 am

GONYK wrote:
knicks94 wrote:
You think Jordan would have won 6 rings without either Phil Jackson or Pippen?

No, but Lebron had Wade and Bosh and plays in a watered down league where you can't play defense, and he still couldn't bring it all home 2 yrs ago.

I doubt he, Wade, or Durant is winning 6 in Jordan's NBA

Lebron and the Heat had to go up against one of the greatest power forwards of all time in the 2011 NBA Finals. People act like the Mavs were the underdogs in that series when it was evident that they were one of the best constructed rosters for the playoffs that year.

Lebron took a team of role players to the NBA finals in 2007 and would have at least 5 championships had he had a Scottie Pippen earlier in his career.

I am not saying that any of those four players I mentioned would have defeated the Bulls 6 times in a seven game series. All I am saying is that had they been in Jordan's position they would have been able to accomplish just as much as he did in a league that lacked superstar talent at the shooting guard position.

Post #1153 » by **GONYK** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:45 am

knicks94 wrote:
GONYK wrote:
knicks94 wrote:
You think Jordan would have won 6 rings without either Phil Jackson or Pippen?

No, but Lebron had Wade and Bosh and plays in a watered down league where you can't play defense, and he still couldn't bring it all home 2 yrs ago.

I doubt he, Wade, or Durant is winning 6 in Jordan's NBA

Lebron and the Heat had to go up against one of the greatest power forwards of all time in the 2011. People act like the Mavs were the underdogs in that series when it was evident that they were one of the best constructed rosters for the playoffs that year.

Lebron took a team of role players to the NBA finals in 2007 and would have at least 5 championships had he had a Scottie Pippen earlier in his career.

I am not saying that any of those four players I mentioned would have defeated the Bulls 6 times in a seven game series. All I am saying is that had they been in Jordan's position they would have been able to accomplish just as much as he did in a league that lacked superstar talent at the shooting guard position.

That Mavs team would have gotten molested by many teams who lost to Jordan in the 90's

AllanHoustonFan · Post #1154 » by **AllanHoustonFan** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:48 am

knicks94 wrote:
Lebron and the Heat had to go up against one of the greatest power forwards of all time in the 2011 NBA Finals. People act like the Mavs were the underdogs in that series when it was evident that they were one of the best constructed rosters for the playoffs that year.

Lebron took a team of role players to the NBA finals in 2007 and would have at least 5 championships had he had a Scottie Pippen earlier in his career.

I am not saying that any of those four players I mentioned would have defeated the Bulls 6 times in a seven game series. All I am saying is that had they been in Jordan's position they would have been able to accomplish just as much as he did in a league that lacked superstar talent at the shooting guard position.

The Mavs were the underdogs. No one expected them to make it to the Finals. In fact, people expected them to lose to the Lakers.

Pharmcat · Post #1155 » by **Pharmcat** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:14 am

rudy gay with another game winner

LOL at these small market teams trading their star away and it blowing up in their face

god shammgod · Post #1156 » by **god shammgod** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:17 am

utah beating okc tonight. makes me feel good about them winning their next game vs the heat.

Falstaffxx · Post #1157 » by **Falstaffxx** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:35 am

Lin getting to the line repeatedly tonight.

knicks94 · Post #1158 » by **knicks94** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:37 am

That Mavs team would have gotten molested by many teams who lost to Jordan in the 90's

Not really!

The Lakers team that faced the Bulls in the finals was lucky to have even gotten that far. They had guys like Magic and Worthy who were approaching the end of their basketball careers.Their showtime days were already long gone.

The 1991-92 Blazers were no better talent wise than the 2010-11 Mavericks. You could have easily put Jason Kidd, Shawn Marion and Jason Terry on Terry Porter, Clyde Drexler and Clifford Robinson. And had Tyson Chandler and Brendan Haywood lock down the Blazers front court.

As good of a regular season record that the 1992-93 Suns had they nearly lost in the first round to an 8th seeded Lakers team. Charles Barkley was a liability on defense and their roster aside from Dan Majerle, Kevin Johnson and a few other role players was 29 years of age or over.

I might have picked the 1995-95 Seattle SuperSonics defeating the 2010-11 Dallas Mavericks in a seven game series only because they gave the Bulls a run for their money after being down 3-0 in the Finals to them. They were also one of the best defensive teams and had two of the top 10 players in their prime.

The Jazz teams that played the Bulls in 1997 and 1998 had two hall of fame players and a hall of fame coach in Jerry Sloan. But the reason that they made it all the way to the finals in consecutive years was because they were in a weak Western Conference at the time. Aside from the Rockets who took them to 5 games in the first round of the 1997 playoffs the Jazz didn't really face any team that was able to challenge them until they had to play the Bulls.

Post #1159 » by **GONYK** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:39 am

knicks94 wrote:
That Mavs team would have gotten molested by many teams who lost to Jordan in the 90's

Not really!

Yes, really

Striders · Post #1160 » by **Striders** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:43 am

knicks94 wrote:All I am saying is that had they been in Jordan's position they would have been able to accomplish just as much as he did in a league that lacked superstar talent at the shooting guard position.

I'm not sure why this matters.

Listen, at the least, can you admit that you went overboard by saying that "Durant is Ten Times Better Than Jordan."