Around the NBA part 4

[Capn'O]

I will say this on Jennings' behalf - pairing him with Monta did not bode well for his career trajectory. That's really on management that they were like "oh cool, here are two guys with essentially the same flaws in their game and attitude issues. Why don't we put them in the backcourt together? Seamless plan."

[Thugger HBC]

not like he regressed because of it.

[seren]

KT/Copeland/White/2nd for Jennings. Get it done Grunnie.

[K_ick_God]

KT/Copeland/White/2nd for Jennings. Get it done Grunnie.

Kidding? His value isn't nil.

[fdr2012]

Thanks

To me, it's looking ok. I need a lot of assists though. I have a method, some of which I've lain out here, that I use in fantasy hoops for figuring out which underperforming players are about to reverse. It's mostly untested axioms and duct tape but it works pretty ok a lot of the time... Lin definitely fit my pattern though with his early season crapping the bed. I had been watching him as I missed my draft and autodrafted both him and Felton. I kept Lin on my bench for most of January and then traded Felton for Gallo in December right as he started to turn it around shootingwise. Knicks fans cringed. My team went yay.


There's a counter-story about John Wall that I'd rather not tell

You took a big hit on FG% yesterday. Still down big on assists as well, but you're up 0.3 on ppg, which would be difficult to reverse.

No Harden today, so this is your big chance.

[Capn'O]

Thanks

To me, it's looking ok. I need a lot of assists though. I have a method, some of which I've lain out here, that I use in fantasy hoops for figuring out which underperforming players are about to reverse. It's mostly untested axioms and duct tape but it works pretty ok a lot of the time... Lin definitely fit my pattern though with his early season crapping the bed. I had been watching him as I missed my draft and autodrafted both him and Felton. I kept Lin on my bench for most of (edit - NOVEMBER!) and then traded Felton for Gallo in December right as he started to turn it around shootingwise. Knicks fans cringed. My team went yay.


There's a counter-story about John Wall that I'd rather not tell

You took a big hit on FG% yesterday. Still down big on assists as well, but you're up 0.3 on ppg, which would be difficult to reverse.

No Harden today, so this is your big chance.

Vs. Chris Paul nonetheless. You can almost hear the dramatic theme music building...

"Now, down two categories with the vainglorious ballhog James Harden resting for All Star weekend, THIS is the opportunity Capn'O has been waiting for! But standing in his way is Chris Paul and the RED HOT Los Angeles Clippers. Can Jeremy do it?! It's do or die in WEDNESDAY NIGHT BASKETBAAAAALLLLL!"


Assists, Jeremy. Assists. Plz.

[Rasho Brezec]

KT/Copeland/White/2nd for Jennings. Get it done Grunnie.

No, Brandon Jennings isn't a starter in this league, and Kurt Thomas brings more to this team than Marbury 2.0 ever could. Also a waste of a 2nd round pick.

[j4remi]

... in the one playoff series Brandon played in (7 games), he did average 19 points. Not bad, and certainly better than Felton's two post-season disasters.

Playoffs are where it's at. Felton will play in his third post-season this year assuming he's healthy. Three time's a charm? I sure hope so ... for him, for the Knicks, and for Knicks fans.

Felton is still the only PG to lead the Bobcats to the playoffs...because they suck. You know how Melo's numbers are skewed badly bc his Nuggets offered no resistance and he was keyed on by Defenses....Felton actually got a lot of that treatment despite the fact that he's an average PG.

[K_ick_God]

... in the one playoff series Brandon played in (7 games), he did average 19 points. Not bad, and certainly better than Felton's two post-season disasters.

Playoffs are where it's at. Felton will play in his third post-season this year assuming he's healthy. Three time's a charm? I sure hope so ... for him, for the Knicks, and for Knicks fans.

Felton is still the only PG to lead the Bobcats to the playoffs...because they suck. You know how Melo's numbers are skewed badly bc his Nuggets offered no resistance and he was keyed on by Defenses....Felton actually got a lot of that treatment despite the fact that he's an average PG.

I hear you. But let's be fair. He was one of the main reasons they got demolished in that series.

Let's call it like it is and not as we wish it to be. Jameer Nelson absolutely dominated him and they never recovered. Over and out, and Felton's poor play was a big reason for it. Jameer Nelson is not a dominant player usually so it's disturbing.

Then with the Nuggets, Felton was arguably even worse. He was truly terrible.

Felton's regular seasons have some good things and some things to like. His playoffs have been disasters. No sugar-coating it.

Frankly, if Lin performs as badly as Felton in the playoffs (I think Rockets will keep their spot and qualify), then I'll be disappointed for Lin because I like him but relieved as a Knicks fan. I'll have been wrong. And losing him won't sting half as much. Playoffs are all that matter.

For Felton's sake, let's hope three times are a charm.

[Capn'O]

... in the one playoff series Brandon played in (7 games), he did average 19 points. Not bad, and certainly better than Felton's two post-season disasters.

Playoffs are where it's at. Felton will play in his third post-season this year assuming he's healthy. Three time's a charm? I sure hope so ... for him, for the Knicks, and for Knicks fans.

Felton is still the only PG to lead the Bobcats to the playoffs...because they suck. You know how Melo's numbers are skewed badly bc his Nuggets offered no resistance and he was keyed on by Defenses....Felton actually got a lot of that treatment despite the fact that he's an average PG.

I pray every day that Stat's health holds up. His offense (with competent defense) is sofa king important to any run we might might.

[j4remi]

KT/Copeland/White/2nd for Jennings. Get it done Grunnie.

No, Brandon Jennings isn't a starter in this league, and Kurt Thomas brings more to this team than Marbury 2.0 ever could. Also a waste of a 2nd round pick.

Jennings off the bench wouldn't be a bad look. You know the way the Grizzlies use Bayless? I could see Jennings thriving in the sort of role. The second rounder, I'd wanna keep though.

[K_ick_God]

Waaaaay too early to write Jennings' obituary lol.

A couple week ago, he was a real (more real than J.R. by far) and strong contender for the All-Star game. Had they picked a *guard* to replace Rondo, which I assumed was a lock, he was the leading contender I believe.

But they replaced Rondo with a big man in Brook, which is more than fair. Brook deserves it.

But Brandon has been awful of late. It's a concern. I don't think he's a clear All-Star. But I still would much rather have him than Felton, and I'd be willing to pay a bigger price to have him too. I think his ceiling is high if he played with someone like Melo. He's a really good Melo pairing IMO.

[Thugger HBC]

KT/Copeland/White/2nd for Jennings. Get it done Grunnie.

No, Brandon Jennings isn't a starter in this league, and Kurt Thomas brings more to this team than Marbury 2.0 ever could. Also a waste of a 2nd round pick.

Jennings off the bench wouldn't be a bad look. You know the way the Grizzlies use Bayless? I could see Jennings thriving in the sort of role. The second rounder, I'd wanna keep though.

Speculation....

Would you rather have jennings on the bench knowing how he feels personally about his game, or take a flyer on Jonny Flynn who would want to revive their career?

[Rasho Brezec]

You take Jonny Flynn 10 times out of 10, he sucks but he's not a bad person. Jennings sucks and has a horrible character.

[K_ick_God]

You take Jonny Flynn 10 times out of 10, he sucks but he's not a bad person. Jennings sucks and has a horrible character.

Where's all this evidence that B.J. is such a bad guy?

Curious to hear your specifics.

[Thugger HBC]

You take Jonny Flynn 10 times out of 10, he sucks but he's not a bad person. Jennings sucks and has a horrible character.

Where's all this evidence that B.J. is such a bad guy?

Curious to hear your specifics.

I recalled this article a year or so back, it's an opinion of course, but still to this day hits it on the head...

Too long quote it all.

http://www.bucksketball.com/2011/04/brandon-jennings-not-the-problem-since-2009/

[K_ick_God]

You take Jonny Flynn 10 times out of 10, he sucks but he's not a bad person. Jennings sucks and has a horrible character.

Where's all this evidence that B.J. is such a bad guy?

Curious to hear your specifics.

I recalled this article a year or so back, it's an opinion of course, but still to this day hits it on the head...

Too long quote it all.

http://www.bucksketball.com/2011/04/brandon-jennings-not-the-problem-since-2009/

There isn't a single piece of evidence in here about him being a bad guy.

I don't know if I need to point this out but having a low FG% does not mean you have low character.

[barborous]

Speaking as huge Jennings hater, I don't think he'll amount to anything in this league. Awful attitude, no conscience, no brain, no heart, highly flawed game...

Also I am mondo confused about the nature of this bet between Cap'n O and fdr. Could someone enlighten me?

[Thugger HBC]

We're all fans at the end of the day.....look at how the Bucks fans view him on this very board.....

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1233237

[Lord Commander]

Waaaaay too early to write Jennings' obituary lol.

A couple week ago, he was a real (more real than J.R. by far) and strong contender for the All-Star game. Had they picked a *guard* to replace Rondo, which I assumed was a lock, he was the leading contender I believe.

But they replaced Rondo with a big man in Brook, which is more than fair. Brook deserves it.

But Brandon has been awful of late. It's a concern. I don't think he's a clear All-Star. But I still would much rather have him than Felton, and I'd be willing to pay a bigger price to have him too. I think his ceiling is high if he played with someone like Melo. He's a really good Melo pairing IMO.

Man...you're slowly bringing me over to the Jennings side. I do think that he has more ability aand raw talent than Felton but he hasn't quite harnessed it yet. Ray tends to play within himself and, IMO, is a better fit with the other pieces on this team. In short, he knows his role and stays in his lane (sorry for all the cliches ). Jennings would come here and try to be the man, which he's not. But if he ever harnasses that ability, whoa....