Bogut and bledsoe?

HolyToledo12 · Post #1 » by **HolyToledo12** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:38 pm

The Jazz only need(?) to trade Millsap and/or Big Al NOW is to get a piece for the future (presumably a PG), a replacement big with a short term contract (bc Jazz cant pay long term deal to Big AL/Millsap bc Hayward and Favors are getting those deals), and open up time for Favors NOW. Heres a trade that works.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine/?tradeId=aqdqk9j

Jazz get Bogut, Bledsoe, and Rush (injured) and give up Big Al, Bell, and Watson...Bell and Watson loss mean nothing. Bogut replaces Big Al, but likely goes to the bench for the rest of this season starting Favors. Next year Bogut and Favors start togather since Millsap may leave in free agency.

LAC get Big Al, Raja, and Watson (all expiring contracts) for Jordan, Bledsoe and Butler. Gives them cap room to try and sign Dwight Howard and Chris Paul. Eliminates hack a Jordan which is an issue. Cap space plus improvement.

GSW get Jordan (who they like a lot) and Butler which help out their playoff run give up Bogut and Brandon Rush.

Jazz 2013-2014 Season

PG Bledsoe (#1 pick) Burks
SG Foye (3 year deal) Burks Rush
C Bogut Kanter
PF Favors Marvin Evans (#1 pick)
SF Hayward Marvin Carroll Rush

hoops4life · Post #2 » by **hoops4life** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:11 pm

Aren't you concerned about injuries at all?

RyanStorm · Post #3 » by **RyanStorm** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:15 pm

Surprisngly this ain't out of question.

Jordan is on a long contract and Jefferson isn't. If LAC take him, they would probably sign him to a multi-year deal, but him and Bell and Watson would give them experienced players to help them finish the year outside 2nd round. If LAC had Big Al, they might be western conference champions.

Honestly Jefferson is such a vital role right now, with him and Millsap putting up 20-10 each night, its hard to think that anyone else could even do what they have been doing. I mean if this team stayed the same for another year minus Marvin and Watson with replacments, were talking a developed team that could be top 4 next year(OKC didn't become sensations overnight, it took a handful of years before hitting finals). Jefferson and Millsap adjusted to Mo, Foye and Marv, and Marv brought nothing to the table(then Mo gets injured, so they adapated to Tinsley).

Jefferson is content here, and someone like Bogut would be cool, but I rather have a draft pick to get a big guy who starts his career here like Kanter! I see us keeping Big Al on account Kanter doesn't have the same experience(even if he has as much raw talent), if Kanter was in his 3rd or 4th year I could see Kanter having no problem taking over.

Jazz: Trade Millsap, Bell, and Watson + 2nd round pick and get Bledsoe and Dal 1st round pick

LAC: Trade Bledsoe and Turiaf and get Bell and Watson + 2nd round pick

DAL: Trade 1st round pick and get Millsap and Turiaf

RyanStorm · Post #4 » by **RyanStorm** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:26 pm

*I am not super good at pricing draft picks, but Dallas is sitting on a lottery pick roughly worth #11-12ish. According to some mock drafts this is roughly worth McAdoo or Gobert. I see Millsap as a bigger asset to them.

But of course, you can switch out DAL and add any other team in the lottery, who wants Millsap. Detroit was the only other team who I thought would need Millsap over their draft pick(of course I added a second person, so that it makes sense for them).

Could you imagine Dirk + Marion + Millsap.....that sounds very dangerous with Collison and Mayo.

countrybama24 · Post #5 » by **countrybama24** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:48 pm

RyanStorm wrote:LAC: Trade Bledsoe and Turiaf and get Bell and Watson + 2nd round pick

They're looking to get Kevin Garnett for Bledsoe. Not this trash.

RyanStorm · Post #6 » by **RyanStorm** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:30 am

I did have a * saying clippers are not likely to do such a lame trade. Even if it were Marvin and Bell I wouldn't see them trading him.

Thats the problem everyone is stingy and isn't budging unless there like MEM and decide to make room and cut their losses. Were the same, were not budging on our young guys...only difference, were not overpricing our guys. I couldn't see myself asking for Rondo or Garnett for Burks or Favors. Its like Derrick Rose, he is damn there considered a god in Chicago, and a Chicago fan would say they wouldn't trade him for Al, Paul and Foye. I thought bledsoe could be had for a good deal, but I guess 2nd round picks are not priced like I thought.

Neon Black · Post #7 » by **Neon Black** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:17 am

Am I the only one who can never see these trades when I click through the link?

The59Sound · Post #8 » by **The59Sound** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:38 am

Neon Black wrote:Am I the only one who can never see these trades when I click through the link?

Nope.

Wolverine · Post #9 » by **Wolverine** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:43 am

Maybe Miami could throw in Lebron :roll:

Neon Black · Post #10 » by **Neon Black** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:39 am

Obviously the Jazz do this. Clippers get raped, though. They can get more for Bledsoe and Jordan. I don't see them shopping Jordan at all and I think they hold on to Bledsoe as an insurance policy until CP3 re-signs.

RyanStorm · Post #11 » by **RyanStorm** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:04 am

Bledsoe is just in rumor mills, and them trying to get Garnet is an actual rumor, which I thought was a joke at first when I said give them Bell and Watson for him.....But I don't want guys that can't replace our guys. Very few trades are actually equal across all parties. Like Toronto got hooked up for MEM needing to make a move.

RiversideClips · Post #12 » by **RiversideClips** » Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:29 pm

Clippers fan here, rumours are flying down in LA about about a possible swap between LAC & the Jazz.
No disrespect, but the Clips aren't trading Bled for fillers such as Bell & Watson; however Jefferson does look good.
AS a Clip fan I am biased, but I would be cool w/ Jefferson & Hayward (is he untouchable?) for Bled,DJ & Caron (0r a future 2nd Rd.)

Ming Kong! · Post #13 » by **Ming Kong!** » Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:23 pm

RiversideClips wrote:Clippers fan here, rumours are flying down in LA about about a possible swap between LAC & the Jazz.
No disrespect, but the Clips aren't trading Bled for fillers such as Bell & Watson; however Jefferson does look good.
AS a Clip fan I am biased, but I would be cool w/ Jefferson & Hayward (is he untouchable?) for Bled,DJ & Caron (0r a future 2nd Rd.)

Jazz don't need DJ's atrocious contract, for that they as might well try to resign Jefferson, and to give up Hayward for Bledsoe, makes this trade difficult, though we may be fine with Foye/Burks/DeMare Carroll as all capable SG's, and PG is a glaring weakness. I'd be kind of on the fence with a deal like this, but it's not bad for the Jazz.

Neon Black · Post #14 » by **Neon Black** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:31 am

RiversideClips wrote:Clippers fan here, rumours are flying down in LA about about a possible swap between LAC & the Jazz.
No disrespect, but the Clips aren't trading Bled for fillers such as Bell & Watson; however Jefferson does look good.
AS a Clip fan I am biased, but I would be cool w/ Jefferson & Hayward (is he untouchable?) for Bled,DJ & Caron (0r a future 2nd Rd.)

No offense taken; no one with an ounce of sanity thinks the Clips would toich Watson or Tinsley.

I don't believe the Jazz are willing to trade Hayward in this scenario. He's fairly untouchable.