Ben Gordon Disrespects Dunlap at Practice

[Diop]

I wish Oakley was still assistant coach so he could have "asked nicely"

I'm with Leo, no excuse.

[thruthefire]

BG was just trying to get those handles tight.

[SWedd523]

Gordon keeping it real. I have no problem with this.

He was being a disrespectful douche. I have meetings with my manager on a daily basis, I can't be disruptive while he's talking and then when he tells me to stop tell him to "humble himself".

If you made 30x more than your manager, you most certainly could...

No, you most certainly couldn't.

At least not if you wanted to keep your job

[fatlever]

anyone even remotely defending gordon or making excuses for him is just using this as a platform to push an anti-dunlap agenda and that is wrong.

[Liver_Pooty]

Im guessing there is not a chance in hell we keep him and hes so miserable he opts out of the last year of his contract.

[SWedd523]

anyone even remotely defending gordon or making excuses for him is just using this as a platform to push an anti-dunlap agenda and that is wrong.

[Probst]

Can he be amnestied after this season

I'm not all that clear on the rules

[BlackOutBuzz]

Peter Vecsey: Asked a GM what he thinks of reported Ben Gordon-Mike Dunlap incident. "Sounds like a guy trying to get traded or bought out." Twitter @PeterVecsey1

Certainly wouldn't complain with a buy-out, though I doubt that's his aim. Next year he'll get the biggest salary of his career, and I highly doubt a buy-out settlement + whatever contract he signs will add up to the $13.2M he's due next year.

[BlackOutBuzz]

Can he be amnestied after this season

I'm not all that clear on the rules

Unfortunately, no. You can only amnesty players that were on your roster at the time of the new CBA. Only the Pistons could amnesty him, but once they traded him he became immune to amnesty. The only player we can still amnesty is Tyrus.

[Elden Payton]

anyone even remotely defending gordon or making excuses for him is just using this as a platform to push an anti-dunlap agenda and that is wrong.

[Elden Payton]

Oh and **** Ben Gordon.

[-Ian-]

Dunlap's rotation / substitution pattern may be all over the place and he cost us some games but there's no way a player should disrespect him.

I lost respect for Ben Gordon. He was brought in by Rich Cho not only for his scoring but also to serve as a good example to the young guys and now he's acting like a bitch. He's now worse than the divas in South Beach, IMO.

[ccbballin]

The coach might be wrong but how many can we go through.

[Elden Payton]

The coach might be wrong but how many can we go through.

I think in the case of BG being so unprofessional we cannot blame the coach...but...The answer to your question is as many as we need to, to get the right one.

Not a single coach with a pedigree and a cv worth a grain of salt would have come here last season and taking the cheap option was the best we could do imo, at least Dunlap has the illusion of serious pedigree and we fans were clamouring for any glimmer of hope, the shine has worn off.

Honestly I really like Mike Dunlap and I don't think that we should let him go just yet but we do need to make a move at some point and the FO really needs to talk to him about the rotation.

Both Mike Brown and Alvin Gentry would be available to coach us at the right price and they really would look for an opportunity to coach again in the NBA despite the team imo, Nate McMillan might be an outside choice to get the nod too.

[ball teacher]

BG was apart of the mutiny in Chicago when Tyrus was a first or second year player and the coach was Scott Skiles, now he's doing this with Dunlap and for whatever reason that he's doing this is wrong, if he wants out he should demand the trade, this isn't professional and a bad example for the young players to witness.

Now for my rant, I don't know if the Bobcats are tanking or just poorly coached, but either way I disagree with the way the team plays. I have a feeling this may be why BG isn't happy with the coach. And how does the coach allow Sessions to shoot EVERYTIME he gets the ball? Kemba has the greenlight also, it seems like the Bobcats don't care about winning as long as Kemba is made into a star but the problem is he isn't one. He's 5 foot something, he's really a SG trying to play PG, he can't defend anybody and on top of all that he takes damn near more shots than anybody else in every game.

This leads to my next beef, I've witnessed Mullens go into the 4th quarter with 20 plus points a couple of times only to see him frozen out of the offense in the final quarter because the guards on the team all go for self. Mullens, MKG, and Henderson need alot more shots, and MKG is barely even playing and I don't know what the heck is up with that! This guy can't shoot very well from outside, so put him in the post, feed him on the breaks, give him some plays where he's slashing to the rim, instead he's getting 15-20 minutes while players like Jeff Adrien and Sessions get all kinds of minutes? He's the 2nd overall pick in the draft, he's talented and he's on a terrible team, he should be getting all kinds of chances to learn on the fly, this isn't the Spurs, or the OKC Thunder, this is the Charlotte Bobcats and MKG can easilly get 15 points per if he gets the touches.

This team isn't terrible, but the way we play makes us look terrible, we are poorly coached, we have guys who can shoot outside, guys who can get buckets inside, guys who can get to the rim, and guys who play tough on defense, we just need to put it all together and it really seems like we aren't playing to our potential and this is on Dunlap cho and co.

[BobsBuddy]

Allot of things went wrong with this team Monday.First of all Ben should have controlled himself as a professional and followed the instructions of the coach when asked to stop. Second of all,Dunlap should have immediately told him to leave practice to defuse the situation. Third,Higgins should keep his mouth shut. Fourth ,after Ben left ,Dunlap should have told the team that if they felt frustrated or anger against any coach or team member it should be dealt with in private in HIS office. And Finnally,THEN, Dunlap should have asked for a meeting with MJ, HIG,CHO and demanded that Ben apologize to the entire team,coachs and management as a group. And If he refused tell him that if he could not be traded by February 21st he would be fined and suspended for 5 games until he did apologize and then another 5 games until he got his head on straight.

We should have done the same thing with TT some time ago. Tell the players that if they disrespect the team they can watch the games from home until we trade them. These spoiled brats want attention,don't mind disruption and think only of themselves because they have huge contracts. You don't see this as much in the NFL because the contracts are loaded with performance incentives both on and off the field.
THINK ABOUT IT!

[KembaWalker]

BG was apart of the mutiny in Chicago when Tyrus was a first or second year player and the coach was Scott Skiles, now he's doing this with Dunlap and for whatever reason that he's doing this is wrong, if he wants out he should demand the trade, this isn't professional and a bad example for the young players to witness.

Now for my rant, I don't know if the Bobcats are tanking or just poorly coached, but either way I disagree with the way the team plays. I have a feeling this may be why BG isn't happy with the coach. And how does the coach allow Sessions to shoot EVERYTIME he gets the ball? Kemba has the greenlight also, it seems like the Bobcats don't care about winning as long as Kemba is made into a star but the problem is he isn't one. He's 5 foot something, he's really a SG trying to play PG, he can't defend anybody and on top of all that he takes damn near more shots than anybody else in every game.

This leads to my next beef, I've witnessed Mullens go into the 4th quarter with 20 plus points a couple of times only to see him frozen out of the offense in the final quarter because the guards on the team all go for self. Mullens, MKG, and Henderson need alot more shots, and MKG is barely even playing and I don't know what the heck is up with that! This guy can't shoot very well from outside, so put him in the post, feed him on the breaks, give him some plays where he's slashing to the rim, instead he's getting 15-20 minutes while players like Jeff Adrien and Sessions get all kinds of minutes? He's the 2nd overall pick in the draft, he's talented and he's on a terrible team, he should be getting all kinds of chances to learn on the fly, this isn't the Spurs, or the OKC Thunder, this is the Charlotte Bobcats and MKG can easilly get 15 points per if he gets the touches.

This team isn't terrible, but the way we play makes us look terrible, we are poorly coached, we have guys who can shoot outside, guys who can get buckets inside, guys who can get to the rim, and guys who play tough on defense, we just need to put it all together and it really seems like we aren't playing to our potential and this is on Dunlap cho and co.

Yeah Dunlap sucks because he's not forcing the offense through the guy whos been shooting 15% at 4ppg. Does this guy have a clue how to coach basketball? Clearly with that guy at #1 option we'd stop getting blown out every game.

[HornetJail]

Dunlap's rotation / substitution pattern may be all over the place and he cost us some games but there's no way a player should disrespect him.

I lost respect for Ben Gordon. He was brought in by Rich Cho not only for his scoring but also to serve as a good example to the young guys and now he's acting like a bitch. He's now worse than the divas in South Beach, IMO.

He wasn't brought in to do anything. 98% of that trade was to get a 1st round pick and for his expiring deal next season to do it all over again.

[vorbis]

this front office has had enough messy divorces with players that i am skeptical that everything went down exactly as reported. i think it's at least feasible that this was a smaller incident that has been blown out of proportion in order to jazz up the trade market for gordon. i am saying this as someone with more patience with dunlap than i think the average bobcats follower.

if he was so disrespectful of the coach in front of the entire team, why was there no disciplinary action taken? that seems fishy to me. if they are afraid to suspend/fine him for fear of destroying his trade value, that is worrisome. i would prioritize team cohesion over one player's trade value, especially when the player is only here because he was good value as a salary piece coming over along with a #1 pick, and just happened to be able to hit some jumpers.

not that i love what gordon brings to the team, but he has struck me as a professional who, while he is very far from being excited to be a part of this horrible season, still does what is asked.

[Ajosu]

BG was apart of the mutiny in Chicago when Tyrus was a first or second year player and the coach was Scott Skiles

That's not how it went down. Not really a mutiny, but more like the team was just burned out from Skiles. If there was any cancer on that team, it was Ben Wallace. I liked him as the Bulls' coach, but his style eventually wears thin everywhere he goes. After a while, guys stop buying into his hard nosed approach when it's not good enough to overcome superior talent. It works at first, but only for so long.

I do remember reading about Ben Gordon going off on Vinny Del Negro, though.