State of the Roster

[spolgar]

Re: Zubby

My disappointments with Kevin Martin are not severe. He annoyed me a lot less than Treva Ariza. Both are good 3rd scoring options that should be playing away from the ball and off of stars. Neither should've been the first option on offense, and Kevin Martin played to his strengths. Treva Ariza drove me nuts at times.

Rafer was hated by _many_ of this board. I was one if his bigger fans. There was severe vitriol for that guy. Some was well deserved. But he did play his best ball here and had a huge part in winning game 22 of the streak.

No to Eric Gordon, but really it's no to the Hornets/Pelicans

Eric Gordon is a scorer, and an undersized one at that. He hasn't played over 70% of a season's games in 3 years. He gets injured a lot.

Vasquez is just as valid a point guard as Lin is. The Gordon/Vasquez back court works well. Having Ryan Anderson and Anthony Davis up front helps. If they want to move Gordon, it's only because he's in Austin Rivers path for development, or that he's a cancer.

Trading Lin isn't going to work out for either team. They have a distributor already, and after the trade, we get rid of our one proven point guard and have James Harden pull a Joe Johnson.

They have two good pieces to build around who play 1,2 and 4. Ryan Anderson is a stretch 4 and I have no idea what position Anthony Davis plays in when Anderson is also on the court, but what they need are good 3s, designated shooters and a center to back up Robin Lopez. If they trade with us straight up and give up Eric Gordon and/or picks, they'll want Asik. That's not a good deal for us.

[TMU]

Hell no to Eric Gordon.

[Durant Durant]

lol I tried the trade checker for Eric Gordon and this is what i get

Eric Gordon from New Orleans Hornets

Gordon has signed an offer sheet that has been matched which means he must agree to any trade which occurs before Dec 31, 1969. However, he cannot be traded to Phoenix Suns .

[moofs]

Re: Zubby
My disappointments with Kevin Martin are not severe. He annoyed me a lot less than Treva Ariza. Both are good 3rd scoring options that should be playing away from the ball and off of stars. Neither should've been the first option on offense, and Kevin Martin played to his strengths. Treva Ariza drove me nuts at times.

Ariza could definitely be frustrating, but he really wasn't bad...

Rafer was hated by _many_ of this board. I was one if his bigger fans. There was severe vitriol for that guy. Some was well deserved. But he did play his best ball here and had a huge part in winning game 22 of the streak.

I basically joined this board to counter some of the incredible hate directed toward Rafer and Chuck Hayes.

They have two good pieces to build around who play 1,2 and 4. Ryan Anderson is a stretch 4 and I have no idea what position Anthony Davis plays in when Anderson is also on the court, but what they need are good 3s, designated shooters and a center to back up Robin Lopez. If they trade with us straight up and give up Eric Gordon and/or picks, they'll want Asik. That's not a good deal for us.

Imo, let's get Anderson. I'd love to see him here, and he's only 24.

Patterson, Morris, and Jones for Anderson!
HA

[jwise44]

I think NO should be shopping Anderson since they have Davis but I don't think they will

And if they did, they would get more than pat pat + 2 other pf prospects




God Anderson is perfect for this team tho

[moofs]

I was looking at PatPat as the scoring-for-scoring side of the haul, but at Jones as the main piece.

I still can't figure out why we aren't playing him, going by what he showed earlier.

[inquisitive]

looks like we're keeping lin around for a long time unless some superstar is available....SAS interview with Morey:

SAS: Y-Y-You acquired Jeremy Lin
DM: lol your favorite player
SAS: yeah I know
DM: lol
DM: You’re the first New York person who seems to dislike Jeremy Lin
SAS: I don’t dislike Jeremy Lin… I’m glad you said that, cuz I’m gonna make a correction here: I like Jeremy Lin, I respect him, I just think that…
DM: I’m not sure (everyone laughs)
SAS: That’s fair… because I felt like he was a marginal talent that had an incredible upside and 2-3-5 years from now he’s going to be a really really really good player in this league. But I didn’t think he was all they try to make him out to be last year
DM: He’s a 6’3", 23 year old, athletic point guard, and really the only thing he’s not very good at is his shot and that’s something that improves over time, so… Jeremy Lin is a guy we’re gonna build around and we’re very excited about

[Zubby]

Time to play "Guess who Morey's talking about!"

"We feel like he is a young player (22-years-old) who can help us now and who we can build around in the future."

"We love (Blank's) future and (Blank's) future." Morey said. "We think both those guys can be guys we can build around. (Blank )has played better than anyone at that spot with the starters this year. They are two guys that give us great, great depth at that spot. Both have different skills that complement each other."

we felt like (Blank) was our guy to start for the future

[inquisitive]

Yep..Lin, Harden, and Parsons the ones..

Time to play "Guess who Morey's talking about!"

"We feel like he is a young player (22-years-old) who can help us now and who we can build around in the future."

"We love (Blank's) future and (Blank's) future." Morey said. "We think both those guys can be guys we can build around. (Blank )has played better than anyone at that spot with the starters this year. They are two guys that give us great, great depth at that spot. Both have different skills that complement each other."

we felt like (Blank) was our guy to start for the future

[Viatical]

I think NO should be shopping Anderson since they have Davis but I don't think they will

And if they did, they would get more than pat pat + 2 other pf prospects




God Anderson is perfect for this team tho

It's always difficult to assess the trading goals of a team that--if Monty Williams' rotations are any guide--is surreptitiously trying to lose basketball games this season. Is New Orleans interested in attempting to make "the leap" next season or will they prove content to continue to just build chemistry between Davis, Vasquez, Aminu, and their freshly-tanked 2013 pick? In that same vein, it's a challenge to gauge the Pelicans' interest in parting with Anderson, a player who clearly can make them better in the short term, in exchange for picks or prospects who could make them a better team in the long run.

In an even more specific sense, it's difficult to say what assets Houston could even offer for Anderson that New Orleans would be interested in. The Horno-Pelicans are in serious need of backcourt depth. (They were even starting Roger Mason, Jr. at shooting guard for a while. Yes, Roger Mason, Jr.) And that need for quality backcourt players will be compounded if they part ways with Eric Gordon. And yet this is the one thing the Rockets are ill-equipped to offer them.

Nothing is impossible, and theoretically the Rockets could source a third team interested in Patterson in exchange for a backcourt piece to send to New Orleans so Anderson can be sent to Houston. But realistically, the two teams just make for unlikely and incompatible trade partners at the moment.

[jwise44]

Wiretap says we expressed interest in good ole donta Greene

Has to be wrong, or we are looking at a trade where we need some bench depth at our already loaded 4 spot

[Mr. E]

OK, I'm posting this with the understanding that outside of Asik, Beverly & Lin, most of these "positions" are pretty fluid. Our guys could play multiple positions in many cases.

Is this our depth chart?

PG: Lin / Beverly
SG: Harden / Garcia
SF: Delfino / Anderson
PF: Parsons / Motiejunas / Robinson
C: Asik / Smith

plus Jones, White & Honeycutt

I don't like Parsons at PF, but that might be our best starting 5 until someone else steps up at PF.

[rocketsballin]

gotta figure something out at pf. play parsons/delfino there for 15-20min a game tops. robinson is proven to be a good rebounder. dmo and jones been inconsistent, which is ok for a backup. its not a stretch to think one of the rookie pfs will crack the rotation

[jwise44]

right now backup has to be moties to lose

if he is sucking I think robinson gets the next shot, then jones

sucks i wish jones and motie would both get a shot over robinson, but i think with this trade were going to have to put robinson in line after motie

so hard when you already have two rookie pfs who have both shown loads of potential. then, we trade for a pf taken with the 5th pick, way higher than both of ours, who has been pretty damned terrible.

[jjscap]

Start T-Rob at PF. Actually that's the only option right now, no? DMO can't start. And you'd not want to change anything with Parsons who is extremely productive already.

Lin (36) - Harden (38) - Parsons (36) - T-Rob (24) - Asik (30)

[Durant Durant]

Start T-Rob at PF. Actually that's the only option right now, no? DMO can't start. And you'd not want to change anything with Parsons who is extremely productive already.

Lin (36) - Harden (38) - Parsons (36) - T-Rob (24) - Asik (30)

just about right. don't let a Top 5 pick talent go to waste. develop.

[Mr. E]

According to Morey, Robinson & Garcia will not be available until Monday.

Honeycutt will start with the Vipers

[jwise44]

Start T-Rob at PF. Actually that's the only option right now, no? DMO can't start. And you'd not want to change anything with Parsons who is extremely productive already.

Lin (36) - Harden (38) - Parsons (36) - T-Rob (24) - Asik (30)

just about right. don't let a Top 5 pick talent go to waste. develop.

Doesn't know the system yet. Let him back up d-mo

Please, Morey?


Just saw we have a team option for del3no for next year at 3 mill, we better pick that up. I would rather sign millsap jarrett jack and keep del3no than Howard and have no bench at all

And yes I know no jazz, but I don't care millsap is the exception and god jarrett jack is awesome


Lin/jack/bev
Harden/delfino(maybe Garcia if we have enough and he plays well)
Parsons/delfino
Millsap/two of motie Robinson and jones (odd man out traded)
Asik (with another year of intense work)/smith

Plus second rounders...maybe trade some scraps for another Aldrich like big man. Package the third pf rookie in for something more solid as a backup Jordan hill-esque...hustler rebounds can block shots

[jwise44]

Yes I know that's a weird team but its my dream. Jack will probably be offered a starting job somewhere:(

[zapatasblood]

I don't think D-Mo is ready to be a starter size wise but I hope he gets a solid 15-20 minutes a game. I really do not want to see Delfino start at the 4 again