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KDRE · Post #21 » by **KDRE** » Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:58 am

And has been a better career defender whereas Kobe has fallen off the grid completely.

I know the nba Hayes the spurs but without shaq the spurs would have even more rings

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Beardman · Post #22 » by **Beardman** » Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:59 am

Why did Kobe dominate Spurs in Duncan's prime ? unsolved mystery...

boogie-reke · Post #23 » by **boogie-reke** » Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:59 am

imchillin wrote:Duncan cant create his own shot, he won't win this kobe vs duncan debate.

what?

RayBan-Sematra · Post #24 » by **RayBan-Sematra** » Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:00 am

imchillin wrote:Duncan cant create his own shot, he won't win this kobe vs duncan debate.

He can't?

Last I remember Duncan was one of the best post scorers of this generation and has scored over 23313+ points over his career.

VINO 24 · Post #25 » by **VINO 24** » Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:00 am

Beardman wrote:Why did Kobe dominate Spurs in Duncan's prime ? unsolved mystery...

Because maybe he's better than Duncan? Oh wait, I'm on RealGm.

KDRE · Post #26 » by **KDRE** » Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:00 am

TDKRises wrote:Kobe whooped Duncan in 01 and 08. B2B in 09-10 was incredible.

So did Duncan whoop Kobe when he sent them home crying?

The logic here is bad. Kobe want even the best player on his team let alone of this era....

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Chocobanana · Post #27 » by **Chocobanana** » Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:00 am

Beardman wrote:Why did Kobe dominate Spurs in Duncan's prime ? unsolved mystery...

VINO 24 · Post #28 » by **VINO 24** » Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:01 am

Chocobanana wrote:
Beardman wrote:Why did Kobe dominate Spurs in Duncan's prime ? unsolved mystery...

Did Shaq do the damage in the Spurs series, or was it Kobe. You might wanna check, truth hurts.

Jo Jo English · Post #29 » by **Jo Jo English** » Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:02 am

barborous wrote:LeBron will mostly be remembered as a player of the 10s, just as Shaq was remembered as a player of the 00s rather than the 90s despite being drafted in 94.

1992.

Still, your point stands. Shaq will be recognized more for the era he won his titles than when he was drafted. The same is true of Jordan. Both players put up ridiculous stats years before they started winning titles, but each cemented their legacy in most fan's eyes as they stacked rings.

GSP · Post #30 » by **GSP** » Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:02 am

Very surprised by this for some reason whenever I hear Wade speak about Kobe its never in an alltime praise kind of way.

Jimmy Recard · Post #31 » by **Jimmy Recard** » Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:02 am

Disagree with Wade here. For me it's Duncan, Shaq, Kobe, KG, Dirk - in that order.

kimbobrand28 · Post #32 » by **kimbobrand28** » Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:02 am

why are ppl comparing a PF/C to a SG?

Beardman · Post #33 » by **Beardman** » Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:03 am

Chocobanana wrote:
Beardman wrote:Why did Kobe dominate Spurs in Duncan's prime ? unsolved mystery...

You must be 12 or developing Alzheimers...

GoldKnightRises · Post #34 » by **GoldKnightRises** » Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:03 am

Beardman wrote:
WinisKing wrote:It is definitely plausible, Kobe won 5 rings in the 00s decade

Doesn't mean his prime is as good as say, a Duncan or a Lebron

Why do some people think Duncan's prime is better than Kobe's ...

Take a look at the Kobe haters, remember their username, check the posts around the forum. Then check how the go default mode to Duncan because of how they feel towards Kobe. Its simple really.

Kobe has 5 rings & defended his titles, Duncan has 4 & never won back to back.

Kobe also has the milestones, far more than Duncan, you name it Kobe's got it.

There is just not a player as successful or great as Kobe in this league & if the Lakers didn't surround him with scrubs during his high peak of prime, who knows what would have happened.

Ducan is great, very great. I would still take Shaq over him, but I have Kobe as my #1 he has truly done it all.

Chocobanana · Post #35 » by **Chocobanana** » Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:03 am

Beardman wrote:
Chocobanana wrote:
Beardman wrote:Why did Kobe dominate Spurs in Duncan's prime ? unsolved mystery...

You must be 12 or developing Alzheimers...

you dont think shaq was the biggest reason the spurs lost to the lakers?

RayBan-Sematra · Post #36 » by **RayBan-Sematra** » Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:04 am

Beardman wrote:Why did Kobe dominate Spurs in Duncan's prime ? unsolved mystery...

This is kind of revisionist history.

Duncan was busy guarding Peak Shaq in 2001 (who outplayed him and Robinson) while Kobe was beating up on one of the worst ever perimeter defenses on mostly single coverage thanks to Shaq.

In 2002 Kobe had a mediocre series VS the Spurs even though he brought the clutchness.

In 2004 Shaq was the MVP against the Spurs.

In 2008 Duncan was clearly past his Prime while Kobe was at his absolute Peak.
Plus Duncan had to go up against Peak Gasol while Kobe had to go up against an injured/hobbled Ginobili.

VINO 24 · Post #37 » by **VINO 24** » Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:05 am

you dont think shaq was the biggest reason the spurs lost to the lakers?

Again did you watch that series. If you did, you know it was Kobe. Look it up, if need be.

boogie-reke · Post #38 » by **boogie-reke** » Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:06 am

TDKRises wrote:
you dont think shaq was the biggest reason the spurs lost to the lakers?

Again did you watch that series. If you did, you know it was Kobe. Look it up, if need be.

Who do you think got all the Spurs attention in the series and suck the defense to him?

Chocobanana · Post #39 » by **Chocobanana** » Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:07 am

TDKRises wrote:
you dont think shaq was the biggest reason the spurs lost to the lakers?

Again did you watch that series. If you did, you know it was Kobe. Look it up, if need be.

kobe killed us, but shaq was always the primary concern.

VINO 24 · Post #40 » by **VINO 24** » Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:07 am

Take a look at the Kobe haters, remember their username, check the posts around the forum. Then check how the go default mode to Duncan because of how they feel towards Kobe. Its simple really.

Kobe has 5 rings & defended his titles, Duncan has 4 & never won back to back.

Kobe also has the milestones, far more than Duncan, you name it Kobe's got it.

There is just not a player as successful or great as Kobe in this league & if the Lakers didn't surround him with scrubs during his high peak of prime, who knows what would have happened.

Ducan is great, very great. I would still take Shaq over him, but I have Kobe as my #1 he has truly done it all.