The OFFICIAL rookie impressions thread pt.III

[Ziggy Stardust]

Lmao flying toward him in and unusual manner? he goes straight up.

Watch the replay in slow motion and watch the progression of Shveds foot while Irvings in the air.

[mandurugo]

If you want to label somebody a dirty player, it's more helpful if you can find video like this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edb6bz_C9ms[/youtube]

[Ziggy Stardust]

If you want to label somebody a dirty player, it's more helpful if you can find video like this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edb6bz_C9ms[/youtube]

Pretty funny you bring up Bowen considering "accidently" putting his foot under a player while they land was a staple of his.

[GhostsOfGil]

Most everyone who didn't hate him going in, and watched him play this season came away with the same impression. He looked good, but his numbers didn't.

A couple of big things that hurt his advanced stats are the fact that he has played a lot of minutes, and never shoots. The kid has been way too passive this season. Go compare the amount of shots he's taken vs guys like Beal and Waiters and it's staggerring. And then, Rivers has struggled at the FT line. It appears to mostly be mental. You can just see in his face that he feels everyone watching him. He's settled down a good bit lately.

On the flip side, Brian Roberts' advanced stats look great, and no Hornets fan would hesitate to take Rivers over Roberts.

As for ceiling, that's tough. I think he's a point guard for sure(funny considering everyone's opinions going in.) Maybe not ceiling, but I see him as everything we thought Jeremy Lin could be. Good size, good scorer, surprisingly solid defender with quick hands. Probably long term one of the lower end starting PG's or higher end backup point guards.

Thanks for the thought out response. It will be interesting to see how he improves his game. It's a very short list of rookie guards who posted similar stats but managed to be successful in the NBA.

[mandurugo]

Pretty funny you bring up Bowen considering "accidently" putting his foot under a player while they land was a staple of his.

That's true! But right now the difference between the two players is that there are hundreds of examples of Bruce doing stuff like this and one case where Shved might have done it.

Perhaps you could you find just a few more examples? Maybe some of our Russian posters know about a notorious background he has while he played there?

[hangntuff]

Lmao flying toward him in and unusual manner? he goes straight up.

Watch the replay in slow motion and watch the progression of Shveds foot while Irvings in the air.

LYAO all you want sport. If you want to spew nonsense while deluding yourself, go for it.

If YOU watch the replay in slow motion as you suggested I do, and honestly hold this belief, then clearly you have an agenda or you need to see a eye doctor.

Shved's foot...the one that Irving steps on...is squarley under Shved's body as he lands. His other foot is sticking out in a weird way but it has no affect on anything in this discussion.

If you stop the play at the crucial instant you will see Irvings feet are coming much closrer to the basket than his body is. He is 'leaning in' with his feet and his body is falling away.

Your replay is solid evidence that Shved did absolutly nothing wrong, thanks for posting it.

[fart]

In between the legs dunk by Waiters yesterday, kinda was hard to see it live as they were interviewing kyrie and had the screen zoomed out.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu7a0LJ2obI[/youtube]

[Ziggy Stardust]

Lmao flying toward him in and unusual manner? he goes straight up.

Watch the replay in slow motion and watch the progression of Shveds foot while Irvings in the air.

LYAO all you want sport. If you want to spew nonsense while deluding yourself, go for it.

If YOU watch the replay in slow motion as you suggested I do, and honestly hold this belief, then clearly you have an agenda or you need to see a eye doctor.

Shved's foot...the one that Irving steps on...is squarley under Shved's body as he lands. His other foot is sticking out in a weird way but it has no affect on anything in this discussion.

If you stop the play at the crucial instant you will see Irvings feet are coming much closrer to the basket than his body is. He is 'leaning in' with his feet and his body is falling away.

Your replay is solid evidence that Shved did absolutly nothing wrong, thanks for posting it.

I'll keep LYAO if I get more responses like this.

Shved has his legs pretty far apart on the landing. Is that how they teach Russians how to jump?

I'm not going to make a bigger deal out of it then it is. It's a textbook, savvy, dirty move used to role ankles while tricking refs and......stupid people.

[hangntuff]

Lmao flying toward him in and unusual manner? he goes straight up.

Watch the replay in slow motion and watch the progression of Shveds foot while Irvings in the air.

LYAO all you want sport. If you want to spew nonsense while deluding yourself, go for it.

If YOU watch the replay in slow motion as you suggested I do, and honestly hold this belief, then clearly you have an agenda or you need to see a eye doctor.

Shved's foot...the one that Irving steps on...is squarley under Shved's body as he lands. His other foot is sticking out in a weird way but it has no affect on anything in this discussion.

If you stop the play at the crucial instant you will see Irvings feet are coming much closrer to the basket than his body is. He is 'leaning in' with his feet and his body is falling away.

Your replay is solid evidence that Shved did absolutly nothing wrong, thanks for posting it.

I'll keep LYAO if I get more responses like this.

Shved has his legs pretty far apart on the landing. Is that how they teach Russians how to jump?

I'm not going to make a bigger deal out of it then it is. It's a textbook, savvy, dirty move used to role ankles while tricking refs and......stupid people.

You say you are not going to make a bigger deal of it than it is then in the same breath you say " It's a textbook, savvy, dirty move used to role ankles while tricking refs and......stupid people."

You appear to have drank too much kool-aid my friend. It is very easy to see from the clip you provided that Shved did nothing wrong or dirty.

Shved may or may not make dirty plays in general, I can't really say...in general. But when you say he is making one and then show a clip to make your point on a specific play, but the clip actually shows they was nothing dirty on his part, well, it becomes a reach.

BTW, please cut back on the personal insults about 'stupid people", you are not hiding your attack very well.

Here's what I will say, People that want to see this in their own tinted way will see it that way, and be damned with any proof to the contary. And to be fair, I will say I am a Wolves fan and would not care to see one of my team viewed in the light you are casting it in, so I may be seeing what I want to see. But at the same time I will maintain you appear to be doing the same thing.

[Juicyjcant]

Not dirty at all, its called momentum and irving leans back a little to shoot which caused shved to reach out more than usual

[Juicyjcant]

Not dirty at all, its called momentum and irving leans back a little to shoot which caused shved to reach out more than usual

[Ziggy Stardust]

LYAO all you want sport. If you want to spew nonsense while deluding yourself, go for it.

If YOU watch the replay in slow motion as you suggested I do, and honestly hold this belief, then clearly you have an agenda or you need to see a eye doctor.

Shved's foot...the one that Irving steps on...is squarley under Shved's body as he lands. His other foot is sticking out in a weird way but it has no affect on anything in this discussion.

If you stop the play at the crucial instant you will see Irvings feet are coming much closrer to the basket than his body is. He is 'leaning in' with his feet and his body is falling away.

Your replay is solid evidence that Shved did absolutly nothing wrong, thanks for posting it.

I'll keep LYAO if I get more responses like this.

Shved has his legs pretty far apart on the landing. Is that how they teach Russians how to jump?

I'm not going to make a bigger deal out of it then it is. It's a textbook, savvy, dirty move used to role ankles while tricking refs and......stupid people.

You say you are not going to make a bigger deal of it than it is then in the same breath you say " It's a textbook, savvy, dirty move used to role ankles while tricking refs and......stupid people."
You appear to have drank too much kool-aid my friend. It is very easy to see from the clip you provided that Shved did nothing wrong or dirty.

Shved may or may not make dirty plays in general, I can't really say...in general. But when you say he is making one and then show a clip to make your point on a specific play, but the clip actually shows they was nothing dirty on his part, well, it becomes a reach.

BTW, please cut back on the personal insults about 'stupid people", you are not hiding your attack very well.

Here's what I will say, People that want to see this in their own tinted way will see it that way, and be damned with any proof to the contary. And to be fair, I will say I am a Wolves fan and would not care to see one of my team viewed in the light you are casting it in, so I may be seeing what I want to see. But at the same time I will maintain you appear to be doing the same thing.

Yeah, I said those two things in the same breath. Can you point out the contradictions? You're acting like i'm calling him a scumbag, or demanding a suspension when when In fact I admitted that I actually sorta admired him for it.

Sorry if I hurt your feelings by basically calling you stupid (aren't you the observant one lol), but please drop the paragon of message board civility routine after you came out calling me deluded.

You obviously care about this way more than me, but I'll just say that it isn't some sort of reach to think that Shved knew what he was doing. It's a pretty classic, and obvious cheap shot. The whole point is that it's suppose to look like, and it generally does, a completely natural basketball ball accident. When you come out to contest a guy taking a jumpshot, You generally just know where the guy is going to land. It's not as clear as Artest's elbow on Harden, but I guess I have the complete opposite immediate reaction when I see that sort of play.

[Shem]

A shout out to Lillard for being the first rookie to win the skills competition.

[Shem]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sU4nldEO0Y[/youtube]

[Dupp]

I laughed at reggie and stuff saying everyone would be surprised with kyrie being in the final and winning it. Not known for his shooting etc. Dudes got one of the best strokes in the league and out of that group only curry is a better shooter.

[dolphinatik]

I laughed at reggie and stuff saying everyone would be surprised with kyrie being in the final and winning it. Not known for his shooting etc. Dudes got one of the best strokes in the league and out of that group only curry is a better shooter.

Its like commentators dont know the players. Kyrie has been known for his shooting for a while. Reggie is a hater and I never saw why ppl think he is so good. I will go on to say that Kyrie is better now than Reggie has ever been.

[Jon1798]

Here are the highlights of what Anthony Davis did to the Blazers. Gives a good example of how much trouble he really gave Aldridge and how he dominated both sides of the court. Remember this is in only 27 minutes.(and of course how ridiculous Shem was about it)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xujg8AuSVm8[/youtube]

Hmmm, not sure why it isn't embedding.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xujg8AuSVm8

[fishnc]

LOL @ Austin Rivers 7 seconds into that video!

[Ettorefm]

I laughed at reggie and stuff saying everyone would be surprised with kyrie being in the final and winning it. Not known for his shooting etc. Dudes got one of the best strokes in the league and out of that group only curry is a better shooter.

Its like commentators dont know the players. Kyrie has been known for his shooting for a while. Reggie is a hater and I never saw why ppl think he is so good. I will go on to say that Kyrie is better now than Reggie has ever been.

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Great post. And I agree with the last line. It's pretty obvious, actually

[boogie-reke]

Here are the highlights of what Anthony Davis did to the Blazers. Gives a good example of how much trouble he really gave Aldridge and how he dominated both sides of the court. Remember this is in only 27 minutes.(and of course how ridiculous Shem was about it)

Hmmm, not sure why it isn't embedding.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xujg8AuSVm8[/youtube]