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CBS: Deal on the table: LRMAM, 1st for Redick.

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Re: CBS: Deal on the table: LRMAM, 1st for Redick. 

Post#121 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:52 pm

J-Nut wrote:Why is everyone so worried about the damn future instead of the current season that we are in??? All you message board GM's are hilarious!!!

Well, I think these trades are really good short-term/really long-term if you put them together

I think
New beats old
Jennings/Udrih Jennings/Udrih
Redick/Duns Ellis/Duns
Smith/Harris Luc/Harris
Ersan/Henson Ersan/Henson
Sanders/Udoh Sanders/Udoh/Dally

And if we are drafting top 5 in 2014 with cap room, we are in a hell of lot better position than today.
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Re: CBS: Deal on the table: LRMAM, 1st for Redick. 

Post#122 » by J-Nut » Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:52 pm

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J-Nut wrote:Why is everyone so worried about the damn future instead of the current season that we are in??? All you message board GM's are hilarious!!!


The current season is over. WE're not accomplishing anything this season. Hell, the season was over before it started. Next season is probably over.


If that's the case, then why do you even care? Why follow something that you believe has no hope?
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Re: CBS: Deal on the table: LRMAM, 1st for Redick. 

Post#123 » by MikeIsGood » Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:52 pm

jr lucosa wrote:Honestly if we trade for Redick and Smith and everyone walks at the end of the year that's like a dream scenario. We can finally tank and Herbie won't even know what hit him, he'll still be on a high from our 6th seed push.


Sure, if they honestly don't retain swag #1. If they do, he, Ersan, Larry as a trio are good enough to keep them hoping to push for the playoffs.

And :lol: about worrying about this season and not about the future.
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Re: CBS: Deal on the table: LRMAM, 1st for Redick. 

Post#124 » by Bucksfans1and2 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:53 pm

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jr lucosa wrote:Honestly if we trade for Redick and Smith and everyone walks at the end of the year that's like a dream scenario. We can finally tank and Herbie won't even know what hit him, he'll still be on a high from our 6th seed push.


even if all of them walk we will inevitably overpay someone with the huge amount of cap space we would have


Pay attention to our FA signings. Almost all have negative impact on wins. That money is going to fuel the tank.
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Re: CBS: Deal on the table: LRMAM, 1st for Redick. 

Post#125 » by Bucksfans1and2 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:54 pm

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Bucksfans1and2 wrote:
J-Nut wrote:Why is everyone so worried about the damn future instead of the current season that we are in??? All you message board GM's are hilarious!!!


The current season is over. WE're not accomplishing anything this season. Hell, the season was over before it started. Next season is probably over.


If that's the case, then why do you even care? Why follow something that you believe has no hope?


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Re: CBS: Deal on the table: LRMAM, 1st for Redick. 

Post#126 » by Thunder Muscle » Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:55 pm

Besides giving up the pick, wouldn't some of these moves be great for a blow-up? I mean if all of these guys walk and we still have our young core. We make one run at it this year, all the vets walk, and then we work on building around Henson, Sanders, and possibly Harris if he develops.
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Re: CBS: Deal on the table: LRMAM, 1st for Redick. 

Post#127 » by JayMKE » Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:56 pm

N8Frog wrote:Besides giving up the pick, wouldn't some of these moves be great for a blow-up? I mean if all of these guys walk and we still have our young core. We make one run at it this year, all the vets walk, and then we work on building around Henson, Sanders, and possibly Harris if he develops.


We're going to have to sign someone

I do not want overpay a bunch of mediocre guys
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Re: CBS: Deal on the table: LRMAM, 1st for Redick. 

Post#128 » by Bfinkish » Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:56 pm

If that's the case, then why do you even care? Why follow something that you believe has no hope?

Because I love this team more than this team could ever deserve.



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Re: CBS: Deal on the table: LRMAM, 1st for Redick. 

Post#129 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:56 pm

Bucksfans1and2 wrote:
Beas wrote:
jr lucosa wrote:Honestly if we trade for Redick and Smith and everyone walks at the end of the year that's like a dream scenario. We can finally tank and Herbie won't even know what hit him, he'll still be on a high from our 6th seed push.


even if all of them walk we will inevitably overpay someone with the huge amount of cap space we would have


Pay attention to our FA signings. Almost all have negative impact on wins. That money is going to fuel the tank.

If only we signed valuable pieces this off-season and trade them for crap salaries before the next deadline. Use you cap space to find a niche in the market to get more assets.
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Re: CBS: Deal on the table: LRMAM, 1st for Redick. 

Post#130 » by Bucksfans1and2 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:57 pm

N8Frog wrote:Besides giving up the pick, wouldn't some of these moves be great for a blow-up? I mean if all of these guys walk and we still have our young core. We make one run at it this year, all the vets walk, and then we work on building around Henson, Sanders, and possibly Harris if he develops.


Herbie couldn't stomach the sucking. We'd match any offer for Jennings/Smoove and probably drastically overpay Reddick.
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Post#131 » by whatthe_buck!? » Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:57 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:
Bfinkish wrote:
jakecronus8 wrote:Just got off the phone with a friend. If what I was told is true, be prepared for some misery.

If you're a tanker, be happy. The delusional Bucks are trying to acquire guys that have a very good shot of leaving in free agency, with the hopes of re-signing them. Coupled with Brandon's rfa status, this team could be severely, SEVERELY barren of talent next season. Next year's draft is loaded with talent. Probably at least five guys with much higher ceilings than anyone on the roster.



and who is your friend....
what kind of deals exactly?....


Can't say, and I'm no insider or anything, just a friend of a friend. The deals have been discussed on this board.

But how are we supposed to have hope for a tank that gets us in the top five next year if we don't trade sanders?? I'm not asking u to defend the strategy, I know u probably don't agree it's the right one, I'm just asking the obvious question... oh And if kohl will accept a tank, why can't we tank by playing young guys instead of trading our assets and letting the rest walk in FA?
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Re: CBS: Deal on the table: LRMAM, 1st for Redick. 

Post#132 » by Bfinkish » Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:59 pm

i keep trying to get bucks updates on twitter. nothing.

it's like security at a old folks home. very quiet right not.
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Re: CBS: Deal on the table: LRMAM, 1st for Redick. 

Post#133 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:59 pm

If we keep Sanders and Ilyasova the Bucks won't be bad enough to tank. Simple as that.
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Post#134 » by whatthe_buck!? » Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:00 pm

Bucksfans1and2 wrote:
J-Nut wrote:
Bucksfans1and2 wrote:The current season is over. WE're not accomplishing anything this season. Hell, the season was over before it started. Next season is probably over.


If that's the case, then why do you even care? Why follow something that you believe has no hope?


Because I love this team more than this team could ever deserve.

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Re: CBS: Deal on the table: LRMAM, 1st for Redick. 

Post#135 » by Bfinkish » Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:01 pm

Bucksfans1and2 wrote:
N8Frog wrote:Besides giving up the pick, wouldn't some of these moves be great for a blow-up? I mean if all of these guys walk and we still have our young core. We make one run at it this year, all the vets walk, and then we work on building around Henson, Sanders, and possibly Harris if he develops.


Herbie couldn't stomach the sucking. We'd match any offer for Jennings/Smoove and probably drastically overpay Reddick.



let's just say for the sake of the argument we overpay out all three. better lineup than we have now at least... i mean don't get me wrong it's overpaying but it's not a bad lineup.

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Re: CBS: Deal on the table: LRMAM, 1st for Redick. 

Post#136 » by crkone » Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:02 pm

Stealth Tank. JH is being a snake in the grass to Kohl. Load up on mid-level talent this year then watch them all leave and say no one wants to sign with us over the summer. I'm all for this if and only if we are unable to sign anyone that will let us fight for the eighth seed.

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Re: CBS: Deal on the table: LRMAM, 1st for Redick. 

Post#137 » by whatthe_buck!? » Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:02 pm

DrugBust wrote:If we keep Sanders and Ilyasova the Bucks won't be bad enough to tank. Simple as that.

Yup. If the deadline passes the way it's looking more and more like it will, this team is without any hope. Permanently stuck in no mans land for the next 5 years (or at least until Sanders gets traded or signs with another team). Fmfl
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Re: CBS: Deal on the table: LRMAM, 1st for Redick. 

Post#138 » by Superfito » Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:03 pm

Paschke made an off hand reference on the last telecast to Tobias getting a bigger role... could this be why?
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Re: CBS: Deal on the table: LRMAM, 1st for Redick. 

Post#139 » by Bucksfans1and2 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:03 pm

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Bucksfans1and2 wrote:
N8Frog wrote:Besides giving up the pick, wouldn't some of these moves be great for a blow-up? I mean if all of these guys walk and we still have our young core. We make one run at it this year, all the vets walk, and then we work on building around Henson, Sanders, and possibly Harris if he develops.


Herbie couldn't stomach the sucking. We'd match any offer for Jennings/Smoove and probably drastically overpay Reddick.



let's just say for the sake of the argument we overpay out all three. better lineup than we have now at least... i mean don't get me wrong it's overpaying but it's not a bad lineup.

bj
redick
ers
smith
sanders


Locked into the 8th seed for the length of those deals. Might as well deal Henson. :(
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Re: CBS: Deal on the table: LRMAM, 1st for Redick. 

Post#140 » by crkone » Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:04 pm

DrugBust wrote:If we keep Sanders and Ilyasova the Bucks won't be bad enough to tank. Simple as that.


Well unless either are hurt or someone worse is playing ahead of either. The EC will also be stronger next year.

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