The Trade Thread

[Bassman]

It's quiet.....


...almost too quiet....









........oh, I see...Higgins is asleep at the wheel again....waiting for someone to call....

[Jajwanda]

I'd like to see Charlotte get involved in a three-way deal with L.A. that includes Lopez to Charlotte, Howard to Brooklyn, and value to L.A.

[HornetJail]

Yeah we really need another soft big man.

I'm thinking about the "value" we'd have to give up to LA, and I'd much rather just try to grab Demarcus Cousins with that kind of value. At least he's on a rookie deal and not a max contract.

[Bassman]

Yeah we really need another soft big man.

I'm thinking about the "value" we'd have to give up to LA, and I'd much rather just try to grab Demarcus Cousins with that kind of value. At least he's on a rookie deal and not a max contract.

While I am sure Cousins is not available, I would love to pull an "MJ at the gaming table" move for him. Push all the chips in and get this guy. By that I mean deal Biz, Hendo and 2 - 1st round picks to get him (the Portland pick and the Detroit pick). If that didn't do it, send them MKG and the Portland pick + filler. Cousins may have some edgy moments, but his talent is undeniable. Pair a quality SG from this year's draft with him, along with our other young ones, and we might have something here.

Kemba
Rookie SG
Taylor
Mullens
Cousins

[HornetJail]

I'd be very very wary about trading MKG for Cousins straight up, definitely wouldn't add any value, but Cousins would be one of the few players I'd even consider trading MKG for. Ideally, I wouldn't want a deal to include MKG, but I think Henderson, Sessions, Mullens, Taylor, DET, POR picks would suffice. Seems like an overpay, but I'd overpay for a talent like that. They don't come around often. DMC can act up all he wants if he can still be a 20/10 guy like we know he's capable of.

Biz
Cousins
MKG
SG: Rookie/FA signing/trade
Kemba

Looks like a great core for the future.

[doc.end]

I was just wondering...

Brooklyn out: Humphries (and Blatche)
Charlotte out: Gordon
Chicago out: Boozer
Golden State out (need to cut about 800k on salar to avoid luxury tax): Biedrins, Landry
Toronto out: Bargnani

Brooklyn in: Boozer (let's say Smith is not available to them anymore)
Charlotte in: Humphries
Chicago in: Gordon, Landry (assuming they deal Hamilton to solve luxury tax danger)
Golden State in: Bargnani (13M out, 10M in)
Toronto in: Biedrins(shorter contract), Blatche(to get someone to play)

Where am I off? Who needs more? Who needs less? Who can't do that because of X? Some players may be seen as negative value by some and a positive by others. I tried to stay away from picks as some teams are not free to trade them (yet).

[JMAC3]

While I am sure Cousins is not available, I would love to pull an "MJ at the gaming table" move for him. Push all the chips in and get this guy. By that I mean deal Biz, Hendo and 2 - 1st round picks to get him (the Portland pick and the Detroit pick). If that didn't do it, send them MKG and the Portland pick + filler. Cousins may have some edgy moments, but his talent is undeniable. Pair a quality SG from this year's draft with him, along with our other young ones, and we might have something here.

Kemba
Rookie SG
Taylor
Mullens
Cousins

Why is Cousins talked about like he is a top 10 player in the league. He is a hot head thug, who hasn't proved to be consistent or a been able to win. I am not saying that I am completely against getting him, but why would you give up so much for him. He has an attitude problem, because he is on a bad team, so lets bring him here to play for a worse team smh.

I really do not believe that just because Jordan is our owner, Cousins would be humbled by him. He would probably be dumb enough to claim he is better then Jordan was. The more I think about it, I would just want to avoid DMC unless we got him for cheap, because he will bring a ton of a talent, but even more problems.

[Elden Payton]

I was just wondering...

Brooklyn out: Humphries (and Blatche)
Charlotte out: Gordon
Chicago out: Boozer
Golden State out (need to cut about 800k on salar to avoid luxury tax): Biedrins, Landry
Toronto out: Bargnani

Brooklyn in: Boozer (let's say Smith is not available to them anymore)
Charlotte in: Humphries
Chicago in: Gordon, Landry (assuming they deal Hamilton to solve luxury tax danger)
Golden State in: Bargnani (13M out, 10M in)
Toronto in: Biedrins(shorter contract), Blatche(to get someone to play)

Where am I off? Who needs more? Who needs less? Who can't do that because of X? Some players may be seen as negative value by some and a positive by others. I tried to stay away from picks as some teams are not free to trade them (yet).

Boozer is hot trash and no way do they get BG+Landry, other than that this is a great trade imo.

How about we add Diop(Who goes to Chicago for lux tax purposes) and Chicago adds Rip Hamilton(Who goes to Brooklyn?)

Brooklyn out: Humphries (and Blatche)
Charlotte out: Gordon (and Diop)
Chicago out: Boozer (and Rip)
Golden State out (need to cut about 800k on salar to avoid luxury tax): Biedrins, Landry
Toronto out: Bargnani

Brooklyn in: Boozer and Hamilton
Charlotte in: Humphries and Landry
Chicago in: Gordon and Diop
Golden State in: Bargnani (13M out, 10M in)
Toronto in: Biedrins(shorter contract), Blatche(to get someone to play)

Chicago may have to add another filler if they close to the tax.

[pickIBL]

LOL It's gonna happen bang bang before the deadline

Amare & Copeland coming in Tyrus & Ben

Granger coming in for a package around Diop & Reggie Williams and your lower first.

[pickIBL]

LOL It's gonna happen bang bang before the deadline

Amare & Copeland coming in Tyrus & Ben

Granger coming in for a package around Diop & Reggie Williams and your lower first.

[Fred Williamson]

LOL It's gonna happen bang bang before the deadline

Amare & Copeland coming in Tyrus & Ben

Granger coming in for a package around Diop & Reggie Williams and your lower first.

Kemba
Hendo
Granger
Amare
Mullens/Biz


doesn't look too bad tbh but it would ruin the plan

[pickIBL]

LOL It's gonna happen bang bang before the deadline

Amare & Copeland coming in Tyrus & Ben

Granger coming in for a package around Diop & Reggie Williams and your lower first.

Kemba
Hendo
Granger
Amare
Mullens/Biz


doesn't look too bad tbh but it would ruin the plan

Not done... I'd also make a 3rd move for Aaron Afflalo. So bang Bang BANG

Center it around shorter deals... warrick... mullens, 2nd or something.

You keep your pick and you keep Kemba (who I'd move to the bench to be a crawford type) and you keep MKG. Plus all these deals outside of AA are short.

[JMAC3]

LOL It's gonna happen bang bang before the deadline

Amare & Copeland coming in Tyrus & Ben

Granger coming in for a package around Diop & Reggie Williams and your lower first.

H-ell no. Neither of these are happening. Especially not Granger, Indiana is not just trying to give him away haha. They would rather trade him for a guy like Eric Gordon or Josh Smith then do that trash. Amare is not going anywhere either. Why would block all of MKG playing time... All this would do is win us some games this year and we would get like 6 or 7 draft pick somehow. Makes no sense.

but i will let you keep playing 2k GM or whatever.

[pickIBL]

but i will let you keep playing 2k GM or whatever.

Thank you. You could keep your core and find the pieces to get granger (or another vet for that matter).

Give em Hendo if they want him. Expirings are hard to come by. I think something could be worked out.

But let's not forget my summer free agent signings.

You need a center. So you gotta go with the 7 footer with the 7-5 wingspan Ioannis Bourousis. Good on offense... not quite Krstic... but a better defender. Then you gotta keep it Greek and get your playmaker... 6'5 Dimitris Diamantidis.

5 Bourousis, Biyombo
4 Amare, Copeland
3 Granger, MKG
2 Afflalo, Hendo (or Sonny Weems) or Kemba
1 Diamantidis, Kemba, Sessions

Playoffs baby... 2014 style.

[doc.end]

I was just wondering...

Brooklyn out: Humphries (and Blatche)
Charlotte out: Gordon
Chicago out: Boozer
Golden State out (need to cut about 800k on salar to avoid luxury tax): Biedrins, Landry
Toronto out: Bargnani

Brooklyn in: Boozer (let's say Smith is not available to them anymore)
Charlotte in: Humphries
Chicago in: Gordon, Landry (assuming they deal Hamilton to solve luxury tax danger)
Golden State in: Bargnani (13M out, 10M in)
Toronto in: Biedrins(shorter contract), Blatche(to get someone to play)

Where am I off? Who needs more? Who needs less? Who can't do that because of X? Some players may be seen as negative value by some and a positive by others. I tried to stay away from picks as some teams are not free to trade them (yet).

Boozer is hot trash and no way do they get BG+Landry, other than that this is a great trade imo.

How about we add Diop(Who goes to Chicago for lux tax purposes) and Chicago adds Rip Hamilton(Who goes to Brooklyn?)

Brooklyn out: Humphries (and Blatche)
Charlotte out: Gordon (and Diop)
Chicago out: Boozer (and Rip)
Golden State out (need to cut about 800k on salar to avoid luxury tax): Biedrins, Landry
Toronto out: Bargnani

Brooklyn in: Boozer and Hamilton
Charlotte in: Humphries and Landry
Chicago in: Gordon and Diop
Golden State in: Bargnani (13M out, 10M in)
Toronto in: Biedrins(shorter contract), Blatche(to get someone to play)

Chicago may have to add another filler if they close to the tax.

The funny thing is, I posted it on Trade board and from responses people like it for Toronto and Brooklyn, thinking we are getting too much and that Chicago and Warriors do poorly, that Landry shouldn't be lost like that and W's just need to shed two of their minimal contract to avoid luxury (fair enough). The thing is Brandon Rush make the same money as Landry but 1) doesn't have the same value I guess 2) I don't see anyone needing a swingman (even for Chicago they wanted rather an inside player on trade board).

Basically I wanted to do something around those big contracts on trade block, not hot commodities like Smith, Millsap and see if there is something making sense for multiple teams while keeping us involved.
Biedrins 9M, straight dumping
Bargnani 10M, depends on POV player, bad contract really (3yrs)
Humphries 12M
Gordon 12.4M - now it depends on how much leverage others think they have on us
Boozer 15M - see Bargnani, but some will still think of as a star (Nets ready to throw money anyway, a team willing to absorb money)

[hotrod]

@rick_bonnell: Dunlap had couple of 1-on-1s with players regarding trade deadline: "To not acknowledge it is probably not the smartest thing to do.''

Couple? BG and who else. GH and TT?

[BlackOutBuzz]

I didn't catch that, hotrod. Could you repeat that for me?

EDIT: aww now my joke doesn't make sense

[hotrod]

My wife attended a meet and greet right before the Lakers game for season ticket holders. Cho answered questions about the teams plans. He took a lot of heat for not being able to get a star player like " Durant". He said we would have to draft a Durant just like OKC did. My wife asked him a one on one question. She asked if we planned on trading GH. He answered by saying, " You know his contract is up right?". Sounds like a yes to me.

[James Gatz]

@rick_bonnell: Dunlap had couple of 1-on-1s with players regarding trade deadline: "To not acknowledge it is probably not the smartest thing to do.''

Couple? BG and who else. GH and TT?

This makes me feel like were more likely to make a trade. I'd love to get something productive for Ben Gordon. Bad Porn has continued to be a great tank commander for us.

[hotrod]

I didn't catch that, hotrod. Could you repeat that for me?

EDIT: aww now my joke doesn't make sense

I know right. Darn thing would not post. Then it went crazy.