Trade Targets, Part Deux

[N Ireland Nets]

I think Patterson for Robinson straight up is laughable. Even Patterson with a pick. But the package going to the Kings isn't as bad as it seems. Considering all of T-Rob's flaws (especially his atrocious post game which has been an issue since college) it's not a bad deal. Maybe T-Rob just didn't gel.

Both have potential. T-Rob clearly higher potential (he at least rebound in college, but then again so did PP).

Houston basically did a salary dump while picking up the most valuable player in the trade. Houston flat out robbed the Kings and it is an absolutely fantastic trade from Houston's point of view.

They want to clear cap space for a run at Howard in the summer, this actually helps them while bringing in potentially their long term PF. A complete steal, infact Morey should be forced to wear a mask for a month...

[Jersey Generals]

And both them are undersized. What's your point?

Here we go

Atlanta: Josh Smith, 6'9 225
Boston: Jeff Green, 6'9 235
Chicago: Carlos Boozer, 6'9 260
Hornets: Anthony Davis, 6'10 220
Utah: Paul Millsap, 6'8 245
Indiana: David West 6'9 250
Hornets: Ryan Anderson, 6'10 240
Utah: Derrick Favors 6'10 240
LAC: Blake Griffin, 6'10 245
Chicago: Taj Gibson 6'9 225
Elton Bran is 6'9 240

I can go on and on but I won't

What's your point? You're comparing similar sized players with different skillsets, different athletic abilities, and different length measurements. And I'm fairly certain these guys are taller, so...again, what is your point?

[AntwanBoldin]

ANYWAY

[vincecarter4pres]

I disagree. I think Patterson is a really nice young player and a great fit next to Cousins. Atrocious rebounder though.

That said the value seems idiotic.

Ecuhus, is that you?

Hi, my name is Ecuhus and did I mention I'm from Kansas?

You bastard.

[Pen Island]

Houston basically did a salary dump while picking up the most valuable player in the trade. Houston flat out robbed the Kings and it is an absolutely fantastic trade from Houston's point of view.

They want to clear cap space for a run at Howard in the summer, this actually helps them while bringing in potentially their long term PF. A complete steal, infact Morey should be forced to wear a mask for a month...

It's hardly a salary dump when they get Garcia back (6.4 cap hit next year) and Honeycutt.

Rockets Get: Thomas Robinson, Francisco Garcia, Tyler Honeycutt
Kings Get: Patrick Patterson, Cole Aldrich, Toney Douglas

With Jones playing well it's not that bad of a deal. It's a bad deal but it's not criminal. They just soured on Robinson. Got young players (PP and CA) and dumped Garcia.

[vincecarter4pres]

Houston basically did a salary dump while picking up the most valuable player in the trade. Houston flat out robbed the Kings and it is an absolutely fantastic trade from Houston's point of view.

They want to clear cap space for a run at Howard in the summer, this actually helps them while bringing in potentially their long term PF. A complete steal, infact Morey should be forced to wear a mask for a month...

It's hardly a salary dump when they get Garcia back (6.4 cap hit next year) and Honeycutt.

Rockets Get: Thomas Robinson, Francisco Garcia, Tyler Honeycutt
Kings Get: Patrick Patterson, Cole Aldrich, Toney Douglas

With Jones playing well it's not that bad of a deal. It's a bad deal but it's not criminal. They just soured on Robinson. Got young players (PP and CA) and dumped Garcia.

Garcia is a team option next year dunlap.

[Pen Island]

What's your point? You're comparing similar sized players with different skillsets, different athletic abilities, and different length measurements. And I'm fairly certain these guys are taller, so...again, what is your point?

You said that 6'9 235 is undersized. I'm demonstrating to you that it's within the average of a PF in the NBA. That's it. Not comparing skill. Comparing size.

[Jersey Generals]

Garcia is a team option/unguranteed, meaning they can not pick up his option and shed his salary, opening up more salary room.

[Pen Island]

Houston basically did a salary dump while picking up the most valuable player in the trade. Houston flat out robbed the Kings and it is an absolutely fantastic trade from Houston's point of view.

They want to clear cap space for a run at Howard in the summer, this actually helps them while bringing in potentially their long term PF. A complete steal, infact Morey should be forced to wear a mask for a month...

It's hardly a salary dump when they get Garcia back (6.4 cap hit next year) and Honeycutt.

Rockets Get: Thomas Robinson, Francisco Garcia, Tyler Honeycutt
Kings Get: Patrick Patterson, Cole Aldrich, Toney Douglas

With Jones playing well it's not that bad of a deal. It's a bad deal but it's not criminal. They just soured on Robinson. Got young players (PP and CA) and dumped Garcia.

Garcia is a team option next year dunlap.

Good call. I was wrong then. I still think it's bad, but not criminal.

We're assuming T-Rob (who I am high on) blossoms just because he was a top pick. Who knows?

[Jersey Generals]

You said that 6'9 235 is undersized. I'm demonstrating to you that it's within the average of a PF in the NBA. That's it. Not comparing skill. Comparing size.

But they are undersized. I really don't know what to tell you. Just because players are that size, doesn't mean that they aren't undersized. Teams overlook it, depending on the skillset and abilities of their players, hence my comments, but 6'9 is still undersized.

[Pen Island]

You said that 6'9 235 is undersized. I'm demonstrating to you that it's within the average of a PF in the NBA. That's it. Not comparing skill. Comparing size.

But they are undersized. I really don't know what to tell you. Just because players are that size, doesn't mean that they aren't undersized. Teams overlook it, depending on the skillset and abilities of their players, hence my comments, but 6'9 is still undersized.

So if the majority of the 4s in the league are around 6'9 then if you're 6'9 you're undersized? I mean the league is clearly evolving. You don't need a 6'11 PF anymore.

[Jersey Generals]

Out of the players that you listed, half of them are bench players and another few are taller than 6'9"...

[N Ireland Nets]

You said that 6'9 235 is undersized. I'm demonstrating to you that it's within the average of a PF in the NBA. That's it. Not comparing skill. Comparing size.

But they are undersized. I really don't know what to tell you. Just because players are that size, doesn't mean that they aren't undersized. Teams overlook it, depending on the skillset and abilities of their players, hence my comments, but 6'9 is still undersized.

So if the majority of the 4s in the league are around 6'9 then if you're 6'9 you're undersized? I mean the league is clearly evolving. You don't need a 6'11 PF anymore.

6'9 is still under sized though. It's just teams are starting to play small now but outside of the Heat most top teams still play big, like the Spurs and OKC

[Jersey Generals]

Hi, my name is Ecuhus and did I mention I'm from Kansas?

You bastard.

You remember around that draft how he was basically coming here and saying how badly he wanted the Nets to trade back to draft Patterson and how much of a fit that Patterson was with Brook? Good times, good times.

[PetroNet]

wrong thread

[N Ireland Nets]

SpearsNBAYahoo: Suns are not expected to participate in any major deals, sources said.

So its between us and the Bucks again. Still think he ends up a Buck by the deadline

[N Ireland Nets]

fishsports: NBA source tells me #Rockets trade for #Kings Thomas Robinson is to facilitate another Hou deal

Looks like Houston might be sending Robinson for Smith, obviously a complete guess but it would make sense

[Petrofor3]

People on here overate Bogdanovic so much yet nobody has probably ever seen him play. Like Petronet said he has a 2 million buy out which is alot for most clubs. Youtube highlights can make any player look good.

[AntwanBoldin]

Eric Gordon to phx
Gortat, Dudley to hornets
Robin lopez, Marshon, nets 1st, nets cash to hawks
Josh smith to nets

[N Ireland Nets]

People on here overate Bogdanovic so much yet nobody has probably ever seen him play. Like Petronet said he has a 2 million buy out which is alot for most clubs. Youtube highlights can make any player look good.

I watch Bogdanovic all the time. I watched him play all his Euroleague games. Watched him play against, Siena, Tel Aviv, Caja Laboral, Besiktas, Real Madrid, BC Khimki, Olympiacos and Panathinaikos.

I watched him the year prior as well and have a decent idea of what his game is like. His contract runs out next season and he can obviously join the NBA for free then. He could join us this season but it would take the full $3m mmle so he can afford to pay the $1.5m onto of the $500,000 the Nets would pay.

Bogdanovic isn't overrated at all. He's one of the best players in Europe right now, top 5 I'd say while he's only 24 years old. He gets to the line a hell of alot, knocks down the 3 at a high rate and gets to the basket a lot with a fantastic offensive game.

His defense flat out sucks, just awful but you never know he might coach him to become average at least. Bogdanovic would be a lottery pick in the 2013 draft right now. Several teams have inquired about Bogdanovic to trade for him but the Nets aren't interested.

The fact teams want to trade for him already show tell you all you need to know about his value. The only reason we got him was due to him signing his 3 year deal with Fener right before the draft like an idiot which destroyed his value.

So no Bogdanovic isn't overrated, he's actually one of if not our best asset right now value wise.