Trade Targets, Part Deux

[N Ireland Nets]

Houston could do a deal like: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine/?tradeId=bb9fhj9

Where Robinson, Jones, Delfino & Motiejunas are moved to Atlanta for Smith. For those kind of young assets Houston could probably get their pick back off Atlanta for this year as well because it's such a rich offer for Smith who they could sign for free in the summer.

That would leave Houston's salary, after they turn down Garcia's option and without Smith's salary at $33,017,707. Smith's 1st year of a new $97.5 m 5 year deal with roughly $17m in the 1st year takes Houston all the way up to $50m but with Asik on the payroll.

Houston would have plenty of offers for Asik if it came to Howard wanting to sign for Houston in the summer as a free agent. Howard and Smith could both sign for Houston long term in the summer. Would be a fantastic young team on paper:

Lin
Harden
Chandler
Smith
Howard

Step away from the trade machine my friend. This makes ZERO sense for Atlanta. Why would they take on all of the Rockets non productive young players?

Houston doesnt have a 1st rounder to trade. They arent getting Smith. It's a smokescreen.

You kidding me?

Your telling me Atlanta wouldn't take Robinson, Jones and Motiejunas??

Motiejunas is 7ft and can play center. Atlanta could start building him up adding bulk to play center full time to let Horford move to the PF. Atlanta could have a fantastic rebuild package ready to go with this trade and if anything Houston would be giving up far to much in the deal.

This would be a no brainer deal for Atlanta and the only reason Houston would do it is to completely clear the decks to make room for Howard to play alongside Smith by signing in the summer.

[DWILLoftheGODZ]

You kidding me?

Your telling me Atlanta wouldn't take Robinson, Jones and Motiejunas??

Motiejunas is 7ft and can play center. Atlanta could start building him up adding bulk to play center full time to let Horford move to the PF. Atlanta could have a fantastic rebuild package ready to go with this trade and if anything Houston would be giving up far to much in the deal.

This would be a no brainer deal for Atlanta and the only reason Houston would do it is to completely clear the decks to make room for Howard to play alongside Smith by signing in the summer.[/quote]

Yes that's exactly what I told you. It would be a no brainer as in incredibly stupid.

Woj said Atlanta wants Asik and Parsons.

[parson]

Houston could do a deal like: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine/?tradeId=bb9fhj9

Where Robinson, Jones, Delfino & Motiejunas are moved to Atlanta for Smith. For those kind of young assets Houston could probably get their pick back off Atlanta for this year as well because it's such a rich offer for Smith who they could sign for free in the summer.

3 PFs for a team that desperately wants to play Al Horford at 4? And Ivan Johnson is a backup PF who is really a fan favorite - and cheap.

Asik makes all the sense in the world for ATL but, for HOU, it'd be a major, major gamble, ie, going all out for Dwight Howard. Hard to see that happening.

[DWILLoftheGODZ]

Nets: Josh Smith
Hawks: Maggette's expiring, Brooks, Nets 1st, Bogdanovic
Pistons: Hump

Who says no?

[N Ireland Nets]

Nets: Josh Smith
Hawks: Maggette's expiring, Brooks, Nets 1st, Bogdanovic
Pistons: Hump

Who says no?

The Pistons for a start. Why would they trade Maggette's expiring for Hump?

[parson]

Motiejunas is 7ft and can play center. Atlanta could start building him up adding bulk to play center full time to let Horford move to the PF

A light-weight, perimeter-gamed player who is averse to rebounding, defense and all the "dirty work" of a Center? A 7fter with only a 6'11" wingspan?

That's no Center; that's a stretch PF.

[DWILLoftheGODZ]

Nets: Josh Smith
Hawks: Maggette's expiring, Brooks, Nets 1st, Bogdanovic
Pistons: Hump

Who says no?

The Pistons for a start. Why would they trade Maggette's expiring for Hump?

Pistons need a PF. Drumond has a hurt back and is young. Hump would be a short term fix at PF then they can flip him next year when he is an expiring. That's how they got Maggette

[DWILLoftheGODZ]

Motiejunas is 7ft and can play center. Atlanta could start building him up adding bulk to play center full time to let Horford move to the PF.

A light-weight, perimeter-gamed player who is averse to rebounding, defense and all the "dirty work" of a Center? A 7fter with only a 6'11" wingspan?

That's no Center; that's a stretch PF.

Hey Parson, get your quotes right, I never said this

[PetroNet]

Houston could do a deal like: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine/?tradeId=bb9fhj9

Where Robinson, Jones, Delfino & Motiejunas are moved to Atlanta for Smith. For those kind of young assets Houston could probably get their pick back off Atlanta for this year as well because it's such a rich offer for Smith who they could sign for free in the summer.

That would leave Houston's salary, after they turn down Garcia's option and without Smith's salary at $33,017,707. Smith's 1st year of a new $97.5 m 5 year deal with roughly $17m in the 1st year takes Houston all the way up to $50m but with Asik on the payroll.

Houston would have plenty of offers for Asik if it came to Howard wanting to sign for Houston in the summer as a free agent. Howard and Smith could both sign for Houston long term in the summer. Would be a fantastic young team on paper:

Lin
Harden
Chandler
Smith
Howard

Time to scare the Lakers into trading him to us to keep Dwight away from Houston.

Atlanta is going to take our offer because of Brooks. They also get a 1st and prob Bogdanovic.

lol... so they dont want the young rockets players who arent producing, but they want marshon brooks

[parson]

Nets: Josh Smith
Hawks: Maggette's expiring, Brooks, Nets 1st, Bogdanovic
Pistons: Hump

Who says no?

The Pistons for a start. Why would they trade Maggette's expiring for Hump?

Is there ANYbody who thinks Humphries has value? And the 1st is useless, since ATL already has the right to swap for it if it's any good.

[PetroNet]

Nets: Josh Smith
Hawks: Maggette's expiring, Brooks, Nets 1st, Bogdanovic
Pistons: Hump

Who says no?

umm.. detroit says HELLLLLL NO.

detroit trade a first just to get rid of gordon to clear cap space. you think they are trading an expiring to take back the same contract they just shipped out to charlotte?

[parson]

Motiejunas is 7ft and can play center. Atlanta could start building him up adding bulk to play center full time to let Horford move to the PF.

A light-weight, perimeter-gamed player who is averse to rebounding, defense and all the "dirty work" of a Center? A 7fter with only a 6'11" wingspan?

That's no Center; that's a stretch PF.

Hey Parson, get your quotes right, I never said this

Sorry, N Ireland Nets said it. It's fixed now.

[DWILLoftheGODZ]

Atlanta is going to take our offer because of Brooks. They also get a 1st and prob Bogdanovic.

lol... so they dont want the young rockets players who arent producing, but they want marshon brooks

Did Brooks NOT score 12.6 PPG as a rookie.

Your just trolling me at this point

[PetroNet]

Nets: Josh Smith
Hawks: Maggette's expiring, Brooks, Nets 1st, Bogdanovic
Pistons: Hump

Who says no?

The Pistons for a start. Why would they trade Maggette's expiring for Hump?

Is there ANYbody who thinks Humphries has value? And the 1st is useless, since ATL already has the right to swap for it if it's any good.

humphries is a GIANT NEGATIVE in any trade where the other team is sending out an expiring contract(i.e. josh smith, millsap, magette, etc).

Hump has ok value in any trade where we take back a similar deal(i.e. gordon) in a classic "our trash for your trash" deal

Hump has GOOD VALUE in any trade where we take back a longer worse deal...like a nene or a boozer

[PetroNet]

the realgm boards suck giant donkey balls... for such a huge site you would think they wouldnt go down/go over capacity every other day

[CalamityX12]

i broke through! lol

[Shark]

Guess a lot of people are expecting something big to happen lol

[NyCeEvO]

Nets: Josh Smith
Hawks: Maggette's expiring, Brooks, Nets 1st, Bogdanovic
Pistons: Hump

Who says no?

umm.. detroit says HELLLLLL NO.

detroit trade a first just to get rid of gordon to clear cap space. you think they are trading an expiring to take back the same contract they just shipped out to charlotte?

Yeah, DWOTG you need to remember that cap space is very important to a team.

It gives them the freedom to sign the players of their choosing and to attempt to have a shot at free agents who are worth more than MMLE & MLE.

They wouldn't take Hump just because they somewhat need a PF.

And even at that, I disagree that they'd need a PF. They can play Mornoe, Maxiel, CV, and others at that spot. They don't need a PF.

[Paradise]

Just go get JJ Reddick or Henderson. The Josh Smith deal on our end looks impossible with Humphries on 2 years instead of 1 year.

The Magic want a 1st round pick and all of the teams offering have a similar pick to ours. All we have to do is throw in Marshon and they would accept.

But once again, Billy would rather stand pat with this handicapped offensive team than to make a SMART move by adding a real shooter instead of relying on Bogans.

[PetroNet]

Listening to local sports talk radio here in Boston. Everyone from The show hosts, to Celtics insiders, to Media, to fans all LOVE the pierce to Brooklyn for Hump, Marshon, 1st trade. Donnie Marshall was on and said the Cetlics would be thrilled to make that trade and are really pushing Brooklyn for it.

They all seem to LOVE Marshon Brooks... Marshall said he sees him as a 1st/2nd option and 20+ ppg scorer along side Rondo. Mike Gorman (celtics announcer) said he thinks Brooks has "elite scoring potential." Man they are in for a very rude awakening, lol.

If we cant get Smith, which seems like a lock we wont, then we should absolutely make this trade. Pierce is still a tough defender and he can knock down 3's. But most of all he brings 2 things this team completely lacks: Leadership & Competitiveness.

I think if you play pierce 20-25 minutes he is a much more impactful player. He wouldnt need to carry the load or log heavy minutes here or be the first option like he is in Boston. I think splittnig the 48 minutes at SF between Pierce and Wallace would keep both fresh and get the best out of both.

Pierce would be a great floor spacer with the first unit, or let him lead the second unit and add a ton of scoring punch to our bench. He also is a guy who can get to the line and plays tough D andhits big shots in the 4th. Our "small" lineup (which i would NOT start and use sparringly) would also be better with Pierce and Wallace playing together.

Pierce, like hump, is a large expiring next year... so all we really give up is Brooks and a pick in the late 20's in a weak draft.