Reggie Rose rips Bulls' inactivity

[WestsideResider]

K.C Johnson ‏@KCJHoop

Regarding Reggie Rose's comments to @ESPNChiPowers: If DRose is mentally, physically ready and still sits, that's not DRose I've covered.

i like this comment by KC very much

But see, that's the problem. Its starting to look more and more like the Rose we "knew" isn't a real person. That the real one is the type that with no regret steals a scholarship from another kid, defrauds the NCAA and falsifies SAT records.

Really? That's where we're going with this now? This board has gone mad.

[pb-ceo]

Well thank god you're not in a position to do that. Your posts get more idiotic each time sorry if that's rude. Without Derrick this team is nothing.

I hope derrick has been working on his mid range game and bb iq while he's been out. this team is 9 games over .500 and doing pretty well without him.

[Rerisen]

OP put a link in your post.

This from the piece, just wow...

"Everyone is expecting Derrick to come back," Reggie Rose said. "If Derrick comes back, they're going to sell more tickets. Is the reason for Derrick to come back to win a championship or make money? Right now, I don't believe a championship. Everything in the NBA is financial."

This last part is what I'm afraid Derrick could be thinking too.

"I want him to be in a position not to fail and let everyone down."

[conker1]

DuckIII that's a really pessimistic point of view, but the scary thing is that you might be right. As we say, wait and see....

[DSand]

Easy there Reginald

[Quinarvy]

K.C Johnson ‏@KCJHoop

Regarding Reggie Rose's comments to @ESPNChiPowers: If DRose is mentally, physically ready and still sits, that's not DRose I've covered.

i like this comment by KC very much

But see, that's the problem. Its starting to look more and more like the Rose we "knew" isn't a real person. That the real one is the type that with no regret steals a scholarship from another kid, defrauds the NCAA and falsifies SAT records.

I love Derrick Rose. And I want to keep loving him. But lets be clear about one thing: There is no way that Reggie Rose would say this unless Derrick Rose agreed with him. None, zip, zero. This isn't Billy Carter. This guy has been in charge of Rose's career since before Derrick could drive.

Derrick Rose just threw his teammates and management under the bus. He just did it through his brother's mouth. Couple this with all the reports, the USA Today article that the FO didn't know about, the leaks to Bucher. This has been an intentional campaign directed at today's trade deadline, revealed only when the Bulls made no moves.

This is bad, bad, bad, bad, bad. Real bad. We may very well may be heading into a Carmelo Anthony level of drama in Chicago. Perhaps not from Rose directly, but its coming. And Derrick Rose is about to experience something he's never had to deal with before: Tough questions from the media. Tough, personal questions, that call his character directly into question. Many players have revealed themselves in this context (Melo, LeBron, Dwight) to be what they really, and not what they were packaged as. Rose has been getting back rubs from the local and national media his whole career. He's about to get wedgies instead.

Rose is going to come out and say all the right things and a lot of you will feel better and say "That's our guy! Screw you Reggie." But as the Joker says, "Its all part of the plan."

This is bad day in Bullsville. I will still be rooting hard for him. But Derrick Rose, unlike the Bears, is not who we thought he was. Don't let what happens next fool you into thinking otherwise.

This 1000 times.

I've been disappointed in Derrick since his US Today interview.

[kuly1990]

I love Derrick. The reality is though we are always going to be underdogs to the Heat or even OKC because Lebron and Durant are substantially better then DRose. That's just the straight truth.

Lebron hell yes (but who isn't he better than?), but Durant and Rose are neck and neck. They're both clutch and play different styles of basketball. Rose with his driving and Durant with his shooting.

i love Rose but i would put KD and Lebron neck and neck, than Rose with them

[The Kane]

K.C Johnson ‏@KCJHoop

Regarding Reggie Rose's comments to @ESPNChiPowers: If DRose is mentally, physically ready and still sits, that's not DRose I've covered.

i like this comment by KC very much

But see, that's the problem. Its starting to look more and more like the Rose we "knew" isn't a real person. That the real one is the type that with no regret steals a scholarship from another kid, defrauds the NCAA and falsifies SAT records.

I love Derrick Rose. And I want to keep loving him. But lets be clear about one thing: There is no way that Reggie Rose would say this unless Derrick Rose agreed with him. None, zip, zero. This isn't Billy Carter. This guy has been in charge of Rose's career since before Derrick could drive.

Derrick Rose just threw his teammates and management under the bus. He just did it through his brother's mouth. Couple this with all the reports, the USA Today article that the FO didn't know about, the leaks to Bucher. This has been an intentional campaign directed at today's trade deadline, revealed only when the Bulls made no moves.

This is bad, bad, bad, bad, bad. Real bad. We may very well may be heading into a Carmelo Anthony level of drama in Chicago. Perhaps not from Rose directly, but its coming. And Derrick Rose is about to experience something he's never had to deal with before: Tough questions from the media. Tough, personal questions, that call his character directly into question. Many players have revealed themselves in this context (Melo, LeBron, Dwight) to be what they really, and not what they were packaged as. Rose has been getting back rubs from the local and national media his whole career. He's about to get wedgies instead.

Rose is going to come out and say all the right things and a lot of you will feel better and say "That's our guy! Screw you Reggie." But as the Joker says, "Its all part of the plan."

This is bad day in Bullsville. I will still be rooting hard for him. But Derrick Rose, unlike the Bears, is not who we thought he was. Don't let what happens next fool you into thinking otherwise.

This is exactly who I thought he was. A guy who values WINNING over all else. It's obvious to all of us that the Bulls have to make some moves before we have a legit title shot. Reggie just said what we all knew already.

[GetBuLLish]

Korver and Asik, for all their abilities, are not changing the arc of this team.

not only do Korver and Asik make us a noticeably better team, but they would also be valuable trade assets.

I didn't read Reggie's comments as necessarily meaning we need better players than Noah and Deng. I think he was just saying that it's not enough.

The point is that the Bulls seemingly don't have their main focus on getting better.

What did the Bulls do this summer? They got worse.

What did the Bulls do this trade deadline? Well, they tried to make trades, but what was the purpose of those trades? Simply to trim money and get out of the luxury.

And to make matters even worse, it seems pretty damn obvious to me that the Bulls really botched things up in believing they could easily dump Rip and get out of the luxury tax. Now the Bulls will pay the luxury tax this year and quite likely will make it a goal next year to stay the hell out of the luxury tax.

And that pisses me off, and I'm sure it pisses Reggie off.

[JasonFTW]

Who is Reggie suggested we could or should have acquired to put us over the top? Look what Cleveland did with Lebron James. Stupid move after stupid move (Jameson, Shaq, etc etc). You can't make dumb moves for the sake of dumb moves.

Clearly we need more talent to win. Everybody knows that. It's easier said than done. But we can't make a dumb, crippling move just to do something.

True dat. I like Reggie's aggressiveness, but you are right about that.

[Tenchi Ryu]

Way to throw everyone under the bus Reggie.

Major PR hit to Derrick today....

[blumeany]

Honestly, look at the top teams today:

Miami: mostly built through the free agency of 2010, 3 superstars getting together - an once in a lifetime event.
OKC: mostly built by great (and very fortunate) drafting
San Antonio: mostly wise drafting again

Teams aside from Miami that were built upon big free agent trades/signings?

New York
Clippers
Boston
Lakers

Now, the Lakers are pretty much done and their success was done in a different era and CBA. Boston also, and they were a title and a puff of smoke. Clippers are still TBD, but they did add CP3 and a lot of good pieces. New York? Yeah.

So, it's no given that a team with the restraints of today's CBA is going to be able to make the deals of the past.

[AAU Teammate]

The read on this:

"My brother isn't 100%, I wish he just got a James Harden to play with so the whole team isn't depending on Derrick and he looks bad"

Derrick for what you're paid, you are supposed to come in and play a half year if healthy. Help in any way you can. This should go without saying. Jesus

If you want to give all that money back then just say so. This is what you signed up for. You didnt sign up to only play when you can look good.

[SpinninHouse]

K.C Johnson ‏@KCJHoop

Regarding Reggie Rose's comments to @ESPNChiPowers: If DRose is mentally, physically ready and still sits, that's not DRose I've covered.

i like this comment by KC very much

But see, that's the problem. Its starting to look more and more like the Rose we "knew" isn't a real person. That the real one is the type that with no regret steals a scholarship from another kid, defrauds the NCAA and falsifies SAT records.

I love Derrick Rose. And I want to keep loving him. But lets be clear about one thing: There is no way that Reggie Rose would say this unless Derrick Rose agreed with him. None, zip, zero. This isn't Billy Carter. This guy has been in charge of Rose's career since before Derrick could drive.

Derrick Rose just threw his teammates and management under the bus. He just did it through his brother's mouth. Couple this with all the reports, the USA Today article that the FO didn't know about, the leaks to Bucher. This has been an intentional campaign directed at today's trade deadline, revealed only when the Bulls made no moves.

This is bad, bad, bad, bad, bad. Real bad. We may very well may be heading into a Carmelo Anthony level of drama in Chicago. Perhaps not from Rose directly, but its coming. And Derrick Rose is about to experience something he's never had to deal with before: Tough questions from the media. Tough, personal questions, that call his character directly into question. Many players have revealed themselves in this context (Melo, LeBron, Dwight) to be what they really, and not what they were packaged as. Rose has been getting back rubs from the local and national media his whole career. He's about to get wedgies instead.

Rose is going to come out and say all the right things and a lot of you will feel better and say "That's our guy! Screw you Reggie." But as the Joker says, "Its all part of the plan."

This is bad day in Bullsville. I will still be rooting hard for him. But Derrick Rose, unlike the Bears, is not who we thought he was. Don't let what happens next fool you into thinking otherwise.

I think you sum it up with the bold. This a horrible day for us as an organization. I think the divide is very real and widening every day. Typically these situations end with the player moving to a different team. Never thought I'd see this day.....

Derrick Rose will in all probability not be a Bull for life.

[Cowbulls]

This is not good for Rose, and i think could make him come back earlier. I mean look at some of these posters who loved Rose 10 minutes ago turning their back on him ( which is pathetic ). Thats just posters on RealGm wait till he starts hearing this from fans everywere he goes. This might be the thing to push him back this season.

[jstnw89]

I love Derrick. The reality is though we are always going to be underdogs to the Heat or even OKC because Lebron and Durant are substantially better then DRose. That's just the straight truth.

Lebron hell yes (but who isn't he better than?), but Durant and Rose are neck and neck. They're both clutch and play different styles of basketball. Rose with his driving and Durant with his shooting.

Durant is waaaaay better than Rose

[The Kane]

And I don't see how a high school kid cheating on a test makes him a bad person.

[pb-ceo]

Is "everything" with the rose family financial?

[DRoseCantStop]

This kind of stuff can ruin teams. Reggie Rose needs to keep his mouth shut

Wise words from a wise man.

That's what it comes down to. It's just a stupid thing to do - especially mid-season like this. You can agree with what he said (I do), but disagree with him saying it in a public fashion at the wrong time. Do that crap in the offseason when it can be forgotten, not during the season before your brother comes back and on the day of a big game no less.

Honestly, if the locker room is saddened by Reggie's words, then they need to man the heck up. Chicago spirits would be fueled by this, especially on game-day.

Doesn't ruin teams. It enhances them. FO has an MVP in their hands and it's their job to surround Rose with great talent.

[Rerisen]

There are only two ways you are going to put real pressure on a front office in professional sports. The first is if you have an absolutely rabid fanbase that has sky-high expectations and has no qualms using public forums to name and shame their team's ownership (in the NBA, only the Lakers and Celtics fall under this category). With the exception of the Bears, Chicago sports fans are pretty passive about holding their front office's feet to the fire when it comes to personnel moves. Some of the more hardcore fans may complain from time to time on a forum like this, but on the whole, that mentality doesn't trickle down to the more casual fan, who often times is comprising a large majority of ticket-buying customers.

The second way is to have a superstar on your team with the personality to criticize ownership in such a way as to stir up the local/national media, as well as the local fanbase, such that it that instills a sense of immediate urgency in the front office. Kobe Bryant does this regularly, and it's proven pretty effective.

We know Derrick Rose is not the type to come out and bluntly say what his brother just said, but to me, this is an indirect shot across the bow of ownership from his tight-knit camp. In most cases, superstar players who are not satisfied with the talent around them, also have some kind of contractual leverage to put even more pressure on their teams to improve (we've seen this with James, Howard, and now Love). Rose is locked in long-term, but does have his return as leverage. If Reggie Rose really felt that way, he should've brought these comments up months ago. Perhaps we'd have seen the Bulls be more active in trying to acquire someone like Reddick.

Nevertheless, it's going to be very interesting moving forward.

Good post. I think Reggie's timing wasn't real good though.