Reggie Rose rips Bulls' inactivity

[JasonFTW]

Rose, you need to fix this mess

[Professor Frink]

For the people agreeing with Reggie..you realize he potentially ruined the locker room..right? LOL

You think the other Bulls players don't want a stronger team? It's just no one wants a stronger team at the expense of their own self being traded.

Hence the ruined locker room. His brother threw all but two guys under the bus.

[GetBuLLish]

Derrick Rose on realgm from HERO to ZERO in 60 minutes!!!!

The guy basically puts the Bulls back on the national map, becomes MVP, and leads the team to the ECF. And if that were't enough to show how important he is, the team proceeds to get bounced by the 16th seed in the playoffs without Rose.

After alllll of that, one article coming from Rose's brother leads to fans calling for him to be traded and saying he's a fake person. Hilarious. I can't even imagine what would happen if Rose demanded to be traded or left the Bulls after his contract ran.

[Red Larrivee]

I disagree that this is a side of Derrick or his camp that we haven't seen before. Rose from Day 1 has had a Kobe Bryant-esque obsession with winning. Every player wants to win or "sacrifice" something to win. Rose takes it much further than most players in the league aside from a few. K.C.'s tweet acting like Rose is some lighthearted snowbunny is full of naive bull.

If Reggie is saying this publicly imagine how others in Rose's camp feel. Hell, you know Reggie's probably told this to Derrick too. Rose wants to win and if the Bulls are more content doing **** they did in 2004-2008 that was financial related, he's not going to stand for it and this will be a lingering issue over the course of his five year contract.

Reggie's lighting a **** inferno and declaring this big boy basketball, and it's about time someone did it. Yes he could have done a better job at it, but this was well-needed. This front office needs to act more like a big market team. The Bulls are that one team that just doesn't have that same aura as an NY, Boston, LA even **** Brooklyn.

[AAU Teammate]

It's the comment you give for a losing team.

We aren't a losing team.

Seriously, sans Derrick we're supposed to have all these star players? How? If you want that: TAKE LESS MONEY. Bam. Take less money than what you got, which you can't spend in one lifetime anyway.

[The Kane]

So I guess the best coach of the year, two current allstars, and great incoming talent within the next few years is not enough? I thought Drose wanted all this? He wanted to be the man in Chicago, and he got his wish.

People keep saying two all-stars like that means something. Guess what? Neither one of those All-Stars are great scorer and they're 3rd and 5th options on a championship team. They are both primarily defensive players. We have defense to spare. We need a 2nd option.Just because we have two "All-Stars" doesn't mean we have enough to win.

[DanTown8587]

I can't believe how shocked some of you people are that this may be what Rose wants... The Rose you know wants to win.

Then why didn't he recruit James and Wade in 2010?

He thought we had enough. It wasn't obvious then. It's now obvious that we don't have enough to beat them. And something else people aren't realizing is that the Heat are WAYYY better now than they were when we played them in the ECF. We are arguably worse, and we definitely aren't better.

How would he think that? The roster at the time was

Rose

Deng
Gibson
Noah

He thought THAT was enough? No wonder he cheated on his SAT [/green]

[Spimothy Leary]

Honestly, look at the top teams today:

Miami: mostly built through the free agency of 2010, 3 superstars getting together - an once in a lifetime event.
OKC: mostly built by great (and very fortunate) drafting
San Antonio: mostly wise drafting again

Teams aside from Miami that were built upon big free agent trades/signings?

New York
Clippers
Boston
Lakers

Now, the Lakers are pretty much done and their success was done in a different era and CBA. Boston also, and they were a title and a puff of smoke. Clippers are still TBD, but they did add CP3 and a lot of good pieces. New York? Yeah.

So, it's no given that a team with the restraints of today's CBA is going to be able to make the deals of the past.

agreed that its not a given, we'll know more when we see a team or two enter the repeater era still writing checks and if it stops them in year 3, there are only a few teams that are on that cusp.

and don't ignore Denver out west, and when you look at what they did with carmello and after, they put together a really good team with a lot of player movement, so although they didn't appear to have a big free agent splash, they've made quite a bit of talent there thru trade/free agency, thats a very talented team.

[D_GoLow]

The lack of activity from the Bulls holds in line with the notion that they want to maintain financial flexibility moving forward. The Bulls understand that in a season and a half they will have cap space to go after a big name free agent on the open market or try to acquire one in a trade, assuming they amnesty the final year of Boozer's contract and make a decision on re-signing Luol Deng after his contract runs out. The Bulls, who are hard-capped this season because of their use of the bi-annual exception last summer, are on track to pay the luxury tax for the first time under owner Jerry Reinsdorf.

Let's not get stupid guys

[BahamaBull]

I want to beat Miami by 20 tonight...

[Rerisen]

It pains me to say this but a divide is developing that may one day end in Derrick Rose playing for a different team. Either that or the Front Office will be fired. But the relationship looks tenuous, at best, right now.

Maybe all the people that ripped Friedell and the media, for making up a story, or overreacting, want to apologize now.

I think there is little chance Reggie just flies off the handle and says this stuff without Derrick's knowledge or even slight similar feelings.

All this stuff is managed by the Rose camp and starting with the USA Today piece, its been a targeted campaign of increasing pressure.

This is not really good news for the Bulls, unless some thinking changes.

[WinCity]

I don't see this as Rose trying to force the Bulls FO hands, rather I see him as a kid who just found out santa wasn't real.

I think more than anything Derrick might be a little hurt and lost in realizing that the Bulls motivations are money related, not solely winning a championship. Rose thinks, breathes and lives basketball, and is humble, I don't think that's changed for a minute. I think what might have changed is his faith in the organization; that they are as equally committed to doing everything possible to put a contender together, much in the way Rose is committed to doing everything possible to win a game. I have to wonder if Derrick is doing some soul searching right now after the realization that the Bulls FO is not who he thought they were.

I agree. Rose is just growing up and is less naive than he was. That seems to hurt the feelings of some here who want the humble quiet kid to stay innocent forever. I believe his actions here are solely motivated by winning in Chicago and he wants to see more from JR in this regard. Some want to criticism him for this, the irony is most of us have felt the same way about JR's small market approach. We need to bear in mind Rose is on our side here. Its JR who needs to change.

[DuckIII]

And I don't see how a high school kid cheating on a test makes him a bad person.

I didn't say he is a bad person. But that event happened. It is pertinent to analyzing his personality. Or at minimum pertinent to analyzing how he allows himself to be manipulated by the advice of his brother, who I'm sure was very much involved in that incident as well.

I haven't concluded, based on what happened to day, that Derrick Rose is yet another selfish primadonna basketball star. I'm saying none of this is consistent with how he had presented himself up to the last few weeks, and I'm very worried about it.

If you aren't worried about what this means as to where Rose's head is, and what kind of teammate he is, you are lying to yourself. This is a terrible thing to have happened no matter how you slice it. Now all we can do is hope that nothing terrible comes of it.

[BeKuK]

For the people agreeing with Reggie..you realize he potentially ruined the locker room..right? LOL

You think the other Bulls players don't want a stronger team? It's just no one wants a stronger team at the expense of their own self being traded.

I could imagine that the most of the Bulls roster would agree with Reggie....in particular Noah and Deng. It's all about bringing the Championship back home!!

[jstnw89]

remember this one reggie?

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/02/derrick-rose-says-he-did-pitch-lebron-last-summer/

“He always told me he didn’t want to be on one of those stacked teams,” Rose’s brother Reggie told the magazine. “He wanted to be with an underdog.”

Technically if we got Rose some other 'stars' we would still be an underdog to Miami

[GetBuLLish]

[Gonna be a big lesson in life

No, the lesson is that if you don't speak up and demand things (remember when Kobe demanded to be traded, and then voila, Lakers built a championship team around him) or simply leave for greener pastures (remember when KG left the T-Wolves and won a championship; or when Lebron left the Cavs and won a championship), you probably won't get sh*t.

[WestsideResider]

Derrick Rose on realgm from HERO to ZERO in 60 minutes!!!!

The guy basically puts the Bulls back on the national map, becomes MVP, and leads the team to the ECF. And if that were't enough to show how important he is, the team proceeds to get bounced by the 16th seed in the playoffs without Rose.

'After alllll of that, one article coming from Rose's brother leads to fans calling for him to be traded and saying hes a fake person. Hilarious. I can't even imagine what would happen if Rose demanded to be traded or left the Bulls after his contract ran.

After reading some of the posts in this thread I kinda hope that's what it comes to.

[QBF]

Rose's brother is exactly right here. There is a reason for the perception Chicago has around the league. Let's be honest: in NBA terms, Chicago is more Milwaukee, Indiana, Memphis, Utah than Boston, Miami, New York, L.A.

The excuse the owner made of the Rose injury was appropriate only if the injury had been a career-ending one. Allowing your team to be gutted because your best player suffered an injury makes no sense unless your best player is never coming back.

These points have all been made before. They are indisputable, and they are devastating.

Asik was a fantastic defensive player, a true 7-footer with an incredible instinct for defensive position, an excellent rebounder, a good shot-blocker, and a a terrible match-up problem for the Heat. He was also a steal of a 2nd round pick who had only been in the league two years, and Chicago would only have had to pay him $5 million a year for the next two seasons. Big men like Asik are hard to find, and Chicago should never have let him go. Based on the nonsense premise of cap-space in two years, Chicago let him go for nothing. Chicago now has a washed-up vet-minimum player like Nazr Mohammed, who Chicago's coach won't even let see the floor, backing up a soon-to-be exhausted, if not broken-down, Joakim Noah. You get what you pay for.

Chicago had three fantastic, non-guaranteed contracts in Kyle Korver, Ronnie Brewer, and C.J. Watson, as well as an expiring contract in Rip Hamilton. These contracts totaled $18 million, and should have allowed Chicago to buy at least two future 1st round picks. Detroit needed outside shooting and cap relief more than anything, and a Korver and Hamilton for Ben Gordon trade would have trumped Charlotte's offer and landed Chicago a fantastic future Detroit 1st.

Sacramento would have loved to have dumped John Salmon's contract; Toronto would have loved to have dumped Jose Calderon's (to pursue Steve Nash with a larger offer); Houston wanted to dump Luis Scola (to pursue Dwight Howard); Phoenix wanted to dump Josh Childress; and Minnesota could have dumped a contract like Luke Ridnour (to pursue Nicholas Batum with a larger offer). Chicago could have gotten another 1st from a trade for one of these players.

If luxury tax concerns were at play, they could have amnestied Boozer. Chicago could then have started this season keeping their star player (Rose) and their defensive defensive core (Noah, Deng, Gibson, Asik, Butler) intact, while adding two more 1sts to the Charlotte 1st and the rights to Mirotic. They would have been the front-runners in every trade-discussion for the next two seasons, with the potential to add players like Harden, Aldridge, Afflalo, etc. All it would have taken is money, a fraction of the $800 billion of profit the owner has made on the bulls since breaking up Jordan/Pippen/Rodman.

Chicago now has little of value, and nothing to show for the much celebrated cap space/young roster of 2010. Just wait until Chicago lets Robinson and Bellinelli walk this summer and replaces them with even worse minimum-salary players, more Mohammeds and Radmanovics.

[DuckIII]

I can't believe how shocked some of you people are that this may be what Rose wants... The Rose you know wants to win.

That is soooooooooooo not the point.

[blumeany]

At the end of the day, when we all calm down, is it the end of the world? No.

I'll still disagree with the method and agree with the philosophy.

The positive, I suppose is that Rose wants to win and he's not satisfied with the status quo. You want that in your superstar. The negative is that it has come down to this.