Reggie Rose rips Bulls' inactivity

[BeKuK]

NOW I KNOW....IT'S JUST A TYPICAL BULLS PHENOMENON:

First - how quickly Scottie forgot about Jordan's greatness

and now

How quickly BULLS FANS FORGOT about Derrick. Man, he allowed us to join the great ride. He took us back in basketball Heaven ....!

I can't believe what happend tonight here on the Board.

[Bulls_MIT]

It's a fake decoy.

The cameras and attention will be on his brother, while Derrick slips by and gets ready to play tonight.

If they're gonna make it a surprise, make it a big surprise, make the decoy fool everyone including the media... so when it's time for those intros the fans will be whipped into a frenzy.

[Rerisen]

I don't have a problem with Rose or his people at all expressing these views to Bulls management. None. I don't even know that I'd have a problem with Reggie saying this at a different point in time.

Timing is very bad, looks like a reaction to no moves at the deadline tbh.

But as far as expressing to Bulls management, I would bet Rose and his people have been doing that for over 2 years, well since it was rumored Rose went to management about the SG situation and supposedly wanting a big upgrade from KeBo. Maybe this is all starting to boil out into impatience behind closed doors.

That this is rather not the beginning of an issue, but the furthering of an outstanding issue that has been going on for some time.

[waffle]

What has Derrick done to attract other SUPERSTARS? Didn't he want to be the MAN?

What hasn't he done to attract other superstars? What has the Bulls FO done to attract other superstars? This is the same FO that didn't want to trade for a 26-year-old Pau Gasol because of luxury tax. Who are we the Raptors?

you have not contradicted my point. He has not lobbied one bit, his semi reason, he wanted to be the man.

This is a competitive team. I think the FO has done their part.

[blumeany]

So I guess the best coach of the year, two current allstars, and great incoming talent within the next few years is not enough? I thought Drose wanted all this? He wanted to be the man in Chicago, and he got his wish.

I like you. But I'm worried about the health and safety of LCMJ. Please post a picture of him holding today's newspaper.

The next video posted to YouTube will be a Derrick Rose heel video.

[suckfish]

Rose needs to concentrate on getting back to playing basketball to the standard that his teammates currently are. Right now, we don't even know if he still has it. So for now he just needs to worry about getting his ass back in shape and fitting in with this team that are playing pretty incredible at the moment IMO.

Once he's back, proves he's his old self, then perhaps he can be saying this stuff.

It's going to take you half a season to get back into basketball shape anyway. Rehab is one thing, actually doing it again in NBA games is another beast.

And if this isn't you thinking this stuff, then you need to come out and put your brother in his place. Pronto.

[DanTown8587]

What has Derrick done to attract other SUPERSTARS? Didn't he want to be the MAN?

What hasn't he done to attract other superstars? What has the Bulls FO done to attract other superstars? This is the same FO that didn't want to trade for a 26-year-old Pau Gasol because of luxury tax. Who are we the Raptors?

Good to know we're holding moves that were made while Rose was in High School against the team for not building a good enough team for Derrick Rose.

2010 happened. The Bulls HAVE ACTIVELY TRIED to acquire top end talent. Are we just forgetting that summer three years ago? You can't just reset the team, it takes time for contracts to expire, etc.

[Red Larrivee]

you have not contradicted my point. He has not lobbied one bit, his semi reason, he wanted to be the man.

Rose's reasoning was letting the FO do their job to get the talent there. Just like it was the Bulls job to get Pau Gasol on a young, rising playoff contender in the East and they chose not to because of their owner's reluctance to pay a bit of luxury tax in the short-term.

Fast forward to today, and Reinsdorf is going to pay the luxury tax for a team that Nate Robinson leads in PER, and Derrick Rose hasn't played a single game. If he can do it now, why couldn't he have done it then? Hell why can't he do it whenever? The FO is assbackwards and I'm sure Reggie knows it.

[Jimako10]

Has Morey signed his extension yet?????

[Mr Funk]

Sorry King Cuban but you are wrong,

Many on this board (like myself) have said time after time to go after players like monta ellis, oj mayo, steve nash, carmelo anthony, etc.... I know sometimes trades can't be completed, but our office simply is afraid to make a move for an impact scorer.

No, you couldn't be more wrong.

Monta Ellis? Bonehead chucker who compared himself to Wade.

OJ Mayo? Another defensive liability on the floor with Boozer, right that would work. And under the CBA, we don't have the cap space for the payout that Mayo wants and to sign Mirotic in 2014.

Why would we want Steve Nash?

And yeah, I'm sure Melo would love to play second fiddle to Rose. He surely wouldn't case any locker room problems or drama in the media.

[Dominator83]

Rose's brother is exactly right here. There is a reason for the perception Chicago has around the league. Let's be honest: in NBA terms, Chicago is more Milwaukee, Indiana, Memphis, Utah than Boston, Miami, New York, L.A.

The excuse the owner made of the Rose injury was appropriate only if the injury had been a career-ending one. Allowing your team to be gutted because your best player suffered an injury makes no sense unless your best player is never coming back.

These points have all been made before. They are indisputable, and they are devastating.

Asik was a fantastic defensive player, a true 7-footer with an incredible instinct for defensive position, an excellent rebounder, a good shot-blocker, and a a terrible match-up problem for the Heat. He was also a steal of a 2nd round pick who had only been in the league two years, and Chicago would only have had to pay him $5 million a year for the next two seasons. Big men like Asik are hard to find, and Chicago should never have let him go. Based on the nonsense premise of cap-space in two years, Chicago let him go for nothing. Chicago now has a washed-up vet-minimum player like Nazr Mohammed, who Chicago's coach won't even let see the floor, backing up a soon-to-be exhausted, if not broken-down, Joakim Noah. You get what you pay for.

Chicago had three fantastic, non-guaranteed contracts in Kyle Korver, Ronnie Brewer, and C.J. Watson, as well as an expiring contract in Rip Hamilton. These contracts totaled $18 million, and should have allowed Chicago to buy at least two future 1st round picks. Detroit needed outside shooting and cap relief more than anything, and a Korver and Hamilton for Ben Gordon trade would have trumped Charlotte's offer and landed Chicago a fantastic future Detroit 1st.

Sacramento would have loved to have dumped John Salmon's contract; Toronto would have loved to have dumped Jose Calderon's (to pursue Steve Nash with a larger offer); Houston wanted to dump Luis Scola (to pursue Dwight Howard); Phoenix wanted to dump Josh Childress; and Minnesota could have dumped a contract like Luke Ridnour (to pursue Nicholas Batum with a larger offer). Chicago could have gotten another 1st from a trade for one of these players.

If luxury tax concerns were at play, they could have amnestied Boozer. Chicago could then have started this season keeping their star player (Rose) and their defensive defensive core (Noah, Deng, Gibson, Asik, Butler) intact, while adding two more 1sts to the Charlotte 1st and the rights to Mirotic. They would have been the front-runners in every trade-discussion for the next two seasons, with the potential to add players like Harden, Aldridge, Afflalo, etc. All it would have taken is money, a fraction of the $800 billion of profit the owner has made on the bulls since breaking up Jordan/Pippen/Rodman.

Chicago now has little of value, and nothing to show for the much celebrated cap space/young roster of 2010. Just wait until Chicago lets Robinson and Bellinelli walk this summer and replaces them with even worse minimum-salary players, more Mohammeds and Radmanovics.

+ a million

and 1 !!!

[DRoseCantStop]

Rose during the 2013 off-season:

"Hey Kevin, I heard you weren't liking it up there in Minny. I-I-I want to compete for a championship and I'm s-sure you do too. PLEASE COME TO CHICAGO!!!!"

[League Circles]

For anyone concerned this hurts the locker room, here's how easy it is to squash that:

Rose: "Hey fellas, you know Reggie just said that **** to try to make sure they didn't do something dumb and trade Boozer or something, he knows we can win, he's just trying to pressure the FO into keeping up their efforts"

End of story.

I know I don't matter, but in my own little way, I try to do the same thing here. I always talk about what the Bulls should do from within the context of what they actually should do.... which is spend a lot of money. No reason to be trying to figure out ways for the Bulls to save money. When you do, you start to plant seeds of justification in the minds of Gar and Pax. All Reggie did was remind the FO that this needs to be an all-out effort to get better, and remind the fans that they too need to hold the FO accountable. It's so against the interest of the team's and Derrick's success for him to have come out and said how good of a job they're doing. In sports, you always need to be critical until you win a title. Otherwise you don't win titles.

[pwrshft99]

IMHO, a lot of posters don't get the league right now. A single star by himself isn't winning a title. We have one superstar with decent role players but we don't have any game changers. Guys that can get a decent shot on their own, draw a foul and get the line during an offensive drought.

It doesn't matter how .any decent guys you surround your star player with. The NBA especially is a game where the stars get special treatment. DRose started to finally earn that respect but he is just one guy to Miami's 3. I love Deng and Noah but not like the FO does. Something has to change. The Pistons got lucky, you can't count on that business model succeeding repeadtly in this game.

All in all the FO wants to compete for a title as long as it is profitable... That's as plain as it can be put

[Rerisen]

Rose is going to come out and say all the right things and a lot of you will feel better and say "That's our guy! Screw you Reggie." But as the Joker says, "Its all part of the plan."

Spot on.

This is bad day in Bullsville. I will still be rooting hard for him. But Derrick Rose, unlike the Bears, is not who we thought he was. Don't let what happens next fool you into thinking otherwise.

Only difference with this part for me, it's no change. Every NBA superstar star has a public face, Michael should have taught people that. And Michael was rumored to threaten to go to NY if the Bulls did not improve.

Which is not to say Rose is really some kind of malcontent at all. I think he ranks at the top of the league for class and especially on-floor effort, but people that thought Rose would never do anything that ran at angles to their own fan love, that was always silly idealism or hero worship.

[Ax2SG]

I just remembered Thibs is yet to sign contract extension, right? This timing is so bad.

[Mech Engineer]

I don't have a problem with Rose or his people at all expressing these views to Bulls management. None. I don't even know that I'd have a problem with Reggie saying this at a different point in time.

Timing is very bad, looks like a reaction to no moves at the deadline tbh.

But as far as expressing to Bulls management, I would bet Rose and his people have been doing that for over 2 years, well since it was rumored Rose went to management about the SG situation and supposedly wanting a big upgrade from KeBo. Maybe this is all starting to boil out into impatience behind closed doors.

That this is rather not the beginning of an issue, but the furthering of an outstanding issue that has been going on for some tie.

But, the article must have been written yesterday or the interviews were done before the deadline. IMO, as you said, the Bulls must have warned the Rose camp about no big deal happening at the trade deadline a few days/weeks back. I think last year's playoff series against the Sixers was a eye-opener for many people about the quality of the cast. Even though there were real reasons like Noah's injury for the loss, the Bulls of the 90s with MJ would have been good enough to go deep into the playoffs.

Another secondary star will probably guarantee that. In Miami, if LeBron is lost, the Heat probably win the first round. Same case in OKC last year without Durant(not sure this year without Harden). I think that's the quality of team Rose wants.

[Red Larrivee]

Good to know we're holding moves that were made while Rose was in High School against the team for not building a good enough team for Derrick Rose.

The past can still tell a lot about the present. How have the Bulls grown as a FO since then? We're still discussing the same problems from 2007.

[waffle]

at the end of the day drose is payed well to play.

I don't think there is a single player in the NBA who doesn't wish that his team could be upgraded.

OKC traded Harden, is Durant going to throw it in this year because his roster was worsened?

Does KOBE take days off because he is part of a dysfunctional mess not of his own making?

EVERY PLAYER HAS RESERVATION. EVERY PLAYER IS PAYED TO PLAY

Don't start thinking your run things Derrick and Co. Do what you are payed well to do

And I still say THIS TEAM as constituted could beat the Heat.

[ChicagoStrong]