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jc23 wrote:there had to be something that triggered this response from reggie rose. but what was it?
Rose: "Hey fellas, you know Reggie just said that **** to try to make sure they didn't do something dumb and trade Boozer or something, he knows we can win, he's just trying to pressure the FO into keeping up their efforts"
End of story.
Rerisen wrote:r1terrell23 wrote:Derrick Rose's close friend told a coworker of mine Sunday Rose didn't want to play because of the FO's inability to bring in real players that can win titles. I brushed this off as just talk but now that this came out today I know Rose feels this way. He can't ruin his image of a trooper by making these comments openly but his thugged out brother can with no consequence. If Derrick didn't feel this way his brother wouldn't come out and say it. But anyway this is something most Bulls fans have been saying anyway. Tired of the FO making salary dumps and being hesitant to bring in talent when you see other large markets doing it.
Not hard to believe at all. I think so many fans are totally naive that the NBA is like some kind of High School team spirit gig, and Derrick is all 'aw shucks I just want to weeeeun'.
Derrick Rose is a massive superstar, brand name to himself. To believe he wants to forgo better odds at rings because of how much he loves Luol Deng or something is ludicrous. The Bulls themselves have shopped Deng in recent years, so Rose is supposed to be crucified for wanting a better team? Get real people. The NBA is a business. Michael and Scottie learned to get along with Dennis Rodman, a 'hated' arch rival from Detroit. LeBron and Durant joke and shake hands after the Finals. This is big business.
Sure team chemistry is valuable and teams can grow to like each other. Pretty sure everyone liked Kyle Korver and Ronnie Brewer too, whoops now they are gone. Anyone could be gone at any moment. Players have every right to be as ruthless, in their objectives, as management is at maximizing profits.
Toulouse wrote:If Derrick doesn't come out and distance himself today from these irresponsible comments, I'm going to lose a lot of respect for him. This is just so classless.
GetBuLLish wrote:BeKuK wrote:Derrick Rose on realgm from HERO to ZERO in 60 minutes!!!!
The guy basically puts the Bulls back on the national map, becomes MVP, and leads the team to the ECF. And if that were't enough to show how important he is, the team proceeds to get bounced by the 16th seed in the playoffs without Rose.
After alllll of that, one article coming from Rose's brother leads to fans calling for him to be traded and saying he's a fake person. Hilarious. I can't even imagine what would happen if Rose demanded to be traded or left the Bulls after his contract ran.
Rerisen wrote:
But behind the scenes, this tension will remain.
Rerisen wrote:Toulouse wrote:If Derrick doesn't come out and distance himself today from these irresponsible comments, I'm going to lose a lot of respect for him. This is just so classless.
He will. But it won't mean anything. It will all be for public consumption. Which Bulls fans will eat up, and go about their way with a clean conscience.
But behind the scenes, this tension will remain.
GetBuLLish wrote:Good stuff, QBF.ChiKago wrote:[
After reading some of the posts in this thread I kinda hope that's what it comes to.
Me too.
GetBuLLish wrote:I don't know what's better, the fact that Reggie said this, or watching a bunch of fans cry like little babies upon hearing it.
Reggie is absolutely right. Time and time and time and time again all we hear about is how financially motivated the Bulls franchise is. Well if they are gonna be so financially motivated rather than championship motivated, then they better expect getting some sh*t for it.
Bulls FO need to have their feet held to the fire, or else we'll definitely get financially motivated moves forever.
jumpmanjay wrote:here's the thing. reggie's opinion is correct. the bulls know this. everyone knows this. the bulls are not favorites, so we should be making moves towards that goal. thats always the goal. the problem is there are no magical trades to make. we arent the lakers- people dont just give us great talents for bags of chips. we have tried to get great talent. it didnt work out. how is that the fault of the FO? does the FO control the weather? does the FO control state income tax?
so for him to go and say what he said is complete and utter BS. rose will most likely need to address the team in person to clean up this mess.
not to mention- if your goal, reggie, was to truly build a great team around derrick, you shouldve told him to take a smaller contract. $250m from adidas is absolutely enough money for one family. derricks contract is absolutely going to cripple this team going forward, especially with the new CBA.
but you're right, reggie, we should just start making trades just to make them. after all, thats what the cavs did for lebron, the nuggets for melo, and orlando for dwight, right? that worked out well....right?
ChiKago wrote:After reading some of the posts in this thread I kinda hope that's what it comes to.
DuckIII wrote:Professor Frink wrote:Yeah, I'm really afraid you're right. This is pretty inexcusable. Even if you have an issue with management, there's no excusing throwing his teammates under the bus. There's really little justification for it when you consider how competitive they've been without him. I don't like this side of Derrick at all. And the thing that really gets me about this stuff is it is so passive aggressive. It's the kind of bitch move guys like Lebron and Carmelo pull and I thought he was better than that. This really makes me appreciate MJ even more. He'd trash his teammates, but he'd do it like a man to their faces.
Exactly. I think the posters who are saying "I agree with him, Rose just wants to win!" and "I can't believe posters are turning their back on him" (which I'm not doing, by the way) are misunderstanding the concern here.
I don't have a problem with Rose or his people at all expressing these views to Bulls management. None. I don't even know that I'd have a problem with Reggie saying this at a different point in time.
But Jesus Christ, the season isn't over. These team is playing their hearts out like wounded warriors trying to keep it afloat in the hope Rose can return. The Bulls have been contenders for two straight years. Have two additional allstars to Rose. Are only not contending right now because of Rose himself.
And you come out and suggest that he might not return this season because his teammates aren't good enough, and he might embarrass himself by not playing great? When a guy like Luol Deng refused SURGERY so he could compete this year?
The point is that a camp that is willing to do that, under these circumstances, is basically standing there with a barrell full of red flags, throwing one after another into the air while shining a spotlight on them.
Red Larrivee wrote:
If Reggie hadn't said this, months from now we would be going into the offseason with the mindset that the Bulls are going to continue to cut costs and do another financial based offseason. Hopefully Reggie just shook **** up and there's going to be a lot more pressure on Paxson, Gar and Reinsdorf to act like a big market for once.
johnnyvann840 wrote: "Derrick let's act like men and not air our dirty laundry over social media, we will have class and dignity and take the matter up with JR and Gar and Pax in private and let them know how we feel and what the consequences may be if something isn't done about it"
Mr Funk wrote:unc1120 wrote:Sorry King Cuban but you are wrong,
Many on this board (like myself) have said time after time to go after players like monta ellis, oj mayo, steve nash, carmelo anthony, etc.... I know sometimes trades can't be completed, but our office simply is afraid to make a move for an impact scorer.
No, you couldn't be more wrong.
Monta Ellis? Bonehead chucker who compared himself to Wade.
OJ Mayo? Another defensive liability on the floor with Boozer, right that would work. And under the CBA, we don't have the cap space for the payout that Mayo wants and to sign Mirotic in 2014.
Why would we want Steve Nash?
And yeah, I'm sure Melo would love to play second fiddle to Rose. He surely wouldn't case any locker room problems or drama in the media.
nitetrain8603 wrote:I'm glad Reggie said it because someone of power needs to call out the Bulls for being not only frugal, but for being way too "safe" when it comes to acquiring players. They need to be a lot more aggressive. Unfortunately, I do think this is the beginning of Love, Rose and Westbrook joining each other in LA in 5 years.