Reggie Rose rips Bulls' inactivity

[CousinOfDeath]

What if the secretary is having an affair with the boss and actually does have influence over the company, Arrested Development style?

[Shill]

I don't think Rose has changed all that much. Remember after we lost to Cleveland in 2010, before or during that offseason banaza of FA's, Rose said he didn't need a LeBron or superstar, but rather, "Just get me one guy." Presumably he meant a very good player, or All-Star. Some rumors were he wanted Joe Johnson.

People at first thought Boozer was that 'one guy', but clearly he is not. Not in the 2011 playoffs, not in 2012 when Rose went down and clearly not this year.

The rest of the money was spent on Korver, Brewer, Watson, productive players who are now all gone. Then Bogans, who Rose obviously wanted upgraded.

The Bulls have still yet to get Rose that one guy. They still have Noah and Deng who were here before Rose, and Noah has improved some, and Deng has been up and down, but the Bulls have yet to add one significant piece since Rose got here to make the team better.

The highest PER player on our team in Derrick absence, is Nate Robinson, who has massive problems on defense and remains erratic on offense despite his good year. And will probably be gone next year. This is an embarrassing lack of talent adding.

Our starting lineup in Game 1 vs Cleveland in 2010 was Rose/Hinrich/Deng/Gibson/Noah.

This could be our starting lineup next year!!!!

Gibson should probably be starting again right now, over Boozer. And Kirk is about as good as Rip or Marco, our SG options. This team has not advanced talent wise hardly at all, other than players already here like Taj, and of course Rose himself, carrying it all.

Wow, never looked at it like that. Great perspective, Re, on a stark reality.

That's freakin' scary.

[BeKuK]

One of the best threads ever on the Bulls board. Good night and god save the Chicago Bulls. Great contributions by all.

You definitely contributed a lot to make it an unforgettable thread! I just want to thank you and I wish you sweet dreams!!!

[ChiCitySPORTS#1]

Who gives a **** what Reggie Rose thinks? He's just a **** from da hood.

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[EastBayFJ]

Derrick Rose recruited Kirk

Team Rose have to take responsibility for that

Star whines. If Star is truly worthy Organisation gets them faux stars ( as to what Cleveland did for Lebron and what Minnesota sort of tried to do back in the day for KG , and now , seemingly is about to do it all over again for Kevin Love )

Orlando did with Dwight etc etc

Star is still not satisfied with the imposter list.

Star leaves

Organisation has big ass payroll for 1 or 2 years in the aftermath and goes back to the mine ...er I mean draft.

The point made in this thread that Rose isnt good enough to win with KLove and figure out the rest is probably right...which means you dont get KLove for short or expiring contracts ...and late 1st round picks

And that the only way a 2 star model works is if you get a player better than Rose...well given that there are between 2 and 9 players better than Rose , none of whom are available and 99% likely never will be , or if they are , then you are competing with 29 other teams

So.....given its not smart to trade Noah or Deng who you need if you manage to get a 2nd tier star like Love or Gordon ( again competing with the rest of the league ) .....the likely best thing you can do is hang on , stay competitive , and hope like the bejesus that NikTik turns 2nd star worthy and/or the Charlotte pick confirms that lightening does strike twice.

Other than that we wont win championships with Rose and various incarantions / lookalikes of the current squad

[EastBayFJ]

Actually Joe Johnson was probably the guy to spend the money on instead of Carlos Boozer

We could have gone for it with

Asik
Noah
Deng
Johnson
Rose

Gibson
Butler
Korver
Watson/Hinrich
Teague

[jax98]

I have to admit I don't have the time to read 78 pages.

After Reggie made those moronic comments, have there been any updates, reactions, etc?

[The_Original_Baller]

With the way Rose plays the chance of getting injured again could be high. It's better for him to take the whole season off and recover as much as possible. I think Rose' brother feels that Chicago isn't good enough to win a title this year with even a fully healthy Rose so why risk his health for this season. If you made a move or two and got maybe Josh Smith or Rudy Gay or whatever then he'd come back this season, but he's not willing to come back for the same team that wasn't good enough all these years...no matter what, at this point Rose cannot be better than he was 2 years ago so you don't have the horses to go deep into the playoffs....thats what his brother is saying.

[DRose4MVP]

With the way Rose plays the chance of getting injured again could be high. It's better for him to take the whole season off and recover as much as possible. I think Rose' brother feels that Chicago isn't good enough to win a title this year with even a fully healthy Rose so why risk his health for this season. If you made a move or two and got maybe Josh Smith or Rudy Gay or whatever then he'd come back this season, but he's not willing to come back for the same team that wasn't good enough all these years...no matter what, at this point Rose cannot be better than he was 2 years ago so you don't have the horses to go deep into the playoffs....thats what his brother is saying.

I disagree. Derrick was in his 3rd season and did not have the BBall IQ he does now. People need to remember just how young Derrick was when he led us to the ECF in 2011. His game has alot of growing to do as a player, and has grown alot since then.

You also have to remember just how awful Derrick played in that series. Yes, it was MVP season but he didn't play like the MVP in that series.

[DRose4MVP]

This story is all that Mike and Mike have talked about so far on ESPN2/ESPN Radio.

[rza]

Reggie Rose is a **** idiot, i just hope that Derrick will be own man, and he will not think that he owes something to his brother, who looks to me like he wants to use Derrick to be in the spotlight!
If Rose thinks the same, then i will start to dislike him a little!
Derrick a lot of people loves you because of the way you acted and man you are, so dont change that now, and become the guy like Lebron, Howard...

So becoming one of the GOAT candidates is a bad thing now? LMAO

Reggie needs to shut the hell up.

[BeKuK]

This story is all that Mike and Mike have talked about so far on ESPN2/ESPN Radio.

I guess it's going to be "THE STORY" in Chicago and area over the next few days.

[BullsGate]

Tenchi,

You act like these players are made of glass. I doubt they are just going to give up. And if they do give up, that says a lot about those players. If someone telling you that you aren't good enough causes you to give up and concede defeat I'd rather not cheer for those type of players.

Hey at least he is not running all over defending Rip. This is progess.

+1

[BullsGate]

Who gives a **** what Reggie Rose thinks? He's just a **** from da hood.

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Who gives a **** charles b*tch *** thinks? **** him.

[Gray Poster]

Who gives a **** what Reggie Rose thinks? He's just a **** from da hood.


Who gives a **** charles b*tch *** thinks? **** him.

I would rather hear Charles Barkley than you or Reggie Rose. And besides, he is correct.

[BullsGate]

Who gives a **** what Reggie Rose thinks? He's just a **** from da hood.


Who gives a **** charles b*tch *** thinks? **** him.

I would rather hear Charles Barkley than you or Reggie Rose. And besides, he is correct.

I'm sure D.Rose saying the same thing about Charles Barkley right now.

[kuly1990]

With the way Rose plays the chance of getting injured again could be high. It's better for him to take the whole season off and recover as much as possible. I think Rose' brother feels that Chicago isn't good enough to win a title this year with even a fully healthy Rose so why risk his health for this season. If you made a move or two and got maybe Josh Smith or Rudy Gay or whatever then he'd come back this season, but he's not willing to come back for the same team that wasn't good enough all these years...no matter what, at this point Rose cannot be better than he was 2 years ago so you don't have the horses to go deep into the playoffs....thats what his brother is saying.

you really think that these moves would put us over the top

[jmajew]

I'm a management supporter on this issue. Why make a trade if it doesn't drastically improve your team in the short term and hurts you for the long? That is how organizations stay in funks for long periods of time. It is unfortunate but it happens all the time. Look at the Knicks they focused on the short term for so long that they sucked for years. Donnie Walsh had a long term vision and stuck to it.

There are only a handfull of players, that could potentially be available in near future, who could help this team compete with the Heat. Kevin Love, Dwight Howard, LaMarcus Aldridge, Eric Gordon, Al Jefferson, Andre Igoudala, Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett. The question then becomes what do you have to give away to get them?

The GarPax are being patient until they find the right deal. Much like the Lakers did to get Pau Gasol. Before that Kobe got pretty frustrated with the Lakers ineptitude. It is a good thing he waited it out. This is also the same philosophy teams like the Thunder and Spurs have. It is very rare you can just spend your way to a title.

[BrooklynBulls]

Months before Rose's health and ability to return are knowable, Bucher reports that Rose's camp will hold out Rose, even if healthy enough to play, because the FO made moves or didn't make moves that bars title contention and that's all that matters to Rose. We laugh at and condemn Bucher for the report.

Bucher keeps reporting it.

Rose's teammates glow about how healthy and ready he is, many weeks ago.

Afterwards, Rose gives a planned interview to a national outlet, without the knowledge of the FO, that he might not play at all this season, and that he's totally okay with it if he doesn't.

This is weeks before the trade deadline.

Minutes after the trade deadline passes, Reg makes public statements entirely consistent with the Bucher reports and Derrick's own statements about not playing this year. Threatening that Rose might sit out the season because the team isn't good enough.

And despite this, the notion that Rose isn't on board and involved with how this played out is poorly supported. Explain that. Explain why that chronology invalidates this supposition or undercuts the rationale.

I would love nothing more than to be reassured that I am an idiot. My wife has been telling me that for years, but I remain unconvinced.

I don't think this opinion will be popular. Which is why I didnt include in the previous post because I didnt want to make that post ABOUT the unpopular opinion.

Which is that Derrick Rose is a dumbass. Not as an insult. I think he's a dullard, a dimwit, a moron, a George to Reggie's Lenny, if you will. I think he's been controlled by his brother since he was in high school (and I KNOW that Reggie controls which interviews Rose does and which questions in the interview he is allowed to answer), and I think that is why you can find this throughline going on.

And the next likely thought is: what does it matter if this isn't Derrick Rose driving this talk, if Reggie basically acts like his brain? Because its a lot easier to separate a guy from another guy than to separate a guy from his own opinion.

If this is Rose's opinion, it may manifest on the court, in his attitude, in his effort. And I don't think that's showing because I don't think it's really his opinion.

I just hope this doesn't end with Rose smothering Nate Robinson because he pet him too hard is all.

[jumpmanjay]

As for criticizing Derrick's response, what do you guys want him to do, tell the world his old man brother is full of **** and make it a bigger story? Derrick said he disagreed with Reggie in as low key way as possible to make the story go away ASAP.

derricks statement did not at all suggest he disagreed with reggie.