Official Tobias Harris watch thread (The End)

treego · Post #81 » by **treego** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:21 am

Tobias Harris lighting it up in Orlando, tonight. Bucks should not have even traded Harris for Redick straight-up.

treego · Post #82 » by **treego** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:24 am

5-10 FG's, 4-4 FT's, 6 rebounds, 3 blocks, 14 points in 23 minutes against the Cavs tonight. Bucks should not have traded this guy. He's got talent, work ethic, and character all rolled in one.

raws · Post #83 » by **raws** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:25 am

treego wrote:Tobias Harris lighting it up in Orlando, tonight. Bucks should not have even traded Harris for Redick straight-up.

He made 3 lay-ups in junk time with no resistance from D. Geesh.

blazza18 · Post #84 » by **blazza18** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:25 am

Good to see him get some real minutes.

LUKE23 · Post #85 » by **LUKE23** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:28 am

We'll regret trading him for sure.

bullox · Post #86 » by **bullox** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:33 am

It'd be one thing if he had a nice game while contributing to a win. This was a 24 point loss. Yes, it's better than if he had a bad game in a loss like this, but it has to be taken with a grain of salt.

http://www.last.fm/user/DPF55 · Post #87 » by **Buck You** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:34 am

Good game from him stats wise but yeah, most of it was in garbage time.

LUKE23 · Post #88 » by **LUKE23** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:36 am

bullox wrote:It'd be one thing if he had a nice game while contributing to a win. This was a 24 point loss. Yes, it's better than if he had a bad game in a loss like this, but it has to be taken with a grain of salt.

Ah, the "he's on a bad team so his stats are irrelevant" argument. Always a classic.

raws · Post #89 » by **raws** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:38 am

LUKE23 wrote:
bullox wrote:It'd be one thing if he had a nice game while contributing to a win. This was a 24 point loss. Yes, it's better than if he had a bad game in a loss like this, but it has to be taken with a grain of salt.

Ah, the "he's on a bad team so his stats are irrelevant" argument. Always a classic.

In this case, it is absolutely true. Didn't look impressive.

ttime1 · Post #90 » by **ttime1** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:38 am

Ohh. OK. So now he gets downplayed because Orlando sucks. He played relevant minutes.

Beno Udrih 26:58 3-7 0-1 4-5 -2 2 3 7 1 2 0 0 0 10
Tobias Harris 24:38 5-10 0-1 4-4 -10 1 6 0 1 0 3 0 1 14

That is not a bad contribution from those two.

bigdogdylan5 · Post #91 » by **bigdogdylan5** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:38 am

LUKE23 wrote:
bullox wrote:It'd be one thing if he had a nice game while contributing to a win. This was a 24 point loss. Yes, it's better than if he had a bad game in a loss like this, but it has to be taken with a grain of salt.

Ah, the "he's on a bad team so his stats are irrelevant" argument. Always a classic.

Magic were on a back to back away-home 4 games in 5 nights Cleveland had 3 straight days off I think that played a factor in loss Harris played very well

WRau1 · Post #92 » by **WRau1** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:40 am

Tobias had a good game, guess that's what happens when you give him minutes and let him play through some mistakes. Great move, Hammond.

emunney · Post #93 » by **emunney** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:42 am

You guys are hilarious. You might wait for a non blowout before you make me chastise you for championing a box score.

blazza18 · Post #94 » by **blazza18** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:43 am

Good confidence building games for Tobes imo. Most of it was sucked out by being benched here. Glad to see him get some opportunities.

WRau1 wrote:Tobias had a good game, guess that's what happens when you give him minutes and let him play through some mistakes. Great move, Hammond.

Apparently it doesn't matter because they got blown out.

Kerb Hohl · Post #95 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:54 am

The fact that they won/lost doesn't matter, it's that he played against garbage.

Last year when the Bucks were fading, Tobias was reaching god-like status for ringing up 10-15 point games against fringe NBDL players.

Tobias could eventually be good but this output in a blowout means little.

wichmae · Post #96 » by **wichmae** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:54 am

Watched the game and he did hit some shots but it was a garbage time game. Hard to truly judge it IMO. I would expect any offensively centered player in the NBA to hit wide open shots and he did. Tough game to truly judge...

Kerb Hohl · Post #97 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:56 am

Lulz, 6 of his points were in the last 3 minutes down 20. 10 of his points I believe were in the 4th quarter as a whole when it was in the bag.

Again, I would not have made the trade, I don't think Tobias is a bad prospect...but I'd calm down on this assessment.

I'd assume that if the Bucks were down 20 most of the 4th quarter, Tobias would play the entire quarter and we'd be hearing the "free Tobais" chants on the board after he made 3 wide open layups.

Ayt · Post #98 » by **Ayt** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:10 am

Within 10 games it will be clear we shouldn't have traded him and should have instead traded our 1st or someone else (if that was an option).

WRau1 · Post #99 » by **WRau1** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:23 am

Tobias misses shots in garbage team = he's poop. He makes shots and the most of his minutes = it was in garbage time. I like the logic.

mojosodope · Post #100 » by **mojosodope** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:28 am

Ayt wrote:Within 10 games it will be clear we shouldn't have traded him and should have instead traded our 1st or someone else (if that was an option).

The more I look at this trade the less I think those were options. I think Rob Hennigan is doing something similar to what he did at OKC as assistant GM. Stockpiling young talent and acquiring early first round picks. I think he knew exactly what he was doing in taking tobias over a first round pick. Not sure if we should regret this trade because we didn't have anything close to a team built around developing young talent.

Call me crazy but I am also starting to think that the reason the Atlanta deal fell through is because they also wanted Tobias.