Predict our record over the next month

[Goldtop]

Just looking at the upcoming schedule and its not getting any easier. Given how the team has played over the last week, and how they appear to have quit on Frank, I think we might be in for a serious tank job coming up.

Take a look at the next 12 games which span the next month. And then picture this team without Drummond, and maybe without Knight too for some.

ATL
@WAS (who is playing good and we barely beat last week)
@NOH (who blew us out at home by 25)
@SAS
NYK
DAL
@LAC
@UTAH (who we may never beat again for the rest of our franchises existence)
@GSW (who blew us out at home last game WITH Drummond)
@POR (possible win)
BKN
MIA

I honestly see 1 maybe 2 wins in the next 12. How many do you got us winning?

*I left off the 11-12 categoriy as we all know thats not happeneing lol

[Piston Pete]

Just looking at the upcoming schedule and its not getting any easier. Given how the team has played over the last week, and how they appear to have quit on Frank, I think we might be in for a serious tank job coming up.

Take a look at the next 12 games which span the next month. And then picture this team without Drummond, and maybe without Knight too for some.

ATL
@WAS (who is playing good and we barely beat last week)
@NOH (who blew us out at home by 25)
@SAS
NYK
DAL
@LAC
@UTAH (who we may never beat again for the rest of our franchises existence)
@GSW (who blew us out at home last game WITH Drummond)
@POR (possible win)
BKN
MIA

I honestly see 1 maybe 2 wins in the next 12. How many do you got us winning?

*I left off the 11-12 categoriy as we all know thats not happeneing lol

Maybe wins, our 1st three games:

ATL
@WASH
@NOH

....I could see us going O-fer the month moreso than us winning more than 5 games.

[Goldtop]

^I see only 4 possible wins. Those first 3 you mentioned, plus the POR game. The odds of us winning all 4 are slim. Plus remember the only reason we played good against ATL before was mostly Drummond.

Right now we are getting dominated by teams with good frontcourts, not having Drummond. You look at ATL (Smith/Horford), WAS (Nene/Okafor), and NOH (Lopez/Anderson/Davis), those are really bad matchups for our team as currently constructed with just Monroe, CV, and Maxiell up front. I could see us not winning any of those 3. Especially since 2 of them are on the road where we are at our worst.

But I think we MIGHT be able to steal one of those 3, and then MAYBE get the POR game who we usually play good against. Thats my 1 or 2. The rest of the games just seem impossible to win with this current roster without Drummond and Knight.

[princeofpalace]

I think we will get 3-4 wins next month. Im hoping to see a long losing streak though, not for lottery balls but to force Joe D and Co's hand and to rid him of any delusions he may have about our team going forward.

[Defor]

I agree 100% with Princeofpalace , we need to lose and lose bad , not only to force Joe's hand on the team but also on the coach.I don't know if Joe picked Frank or Gore did ,but he's got to go .Also we could really use another draft in the 7th thru 9 range, if not higher.Indiana wasn't much better then us a fewyears ago .Yeah they got lucky with Paul ,but so did we with Drummond, were not that far away we just need the right pieces ,that have some toughness and a good coach.

[srt4b]

Without AD we are in the bottom 5 of the NBA, any win is unexpected.

[russkopp]

I would love a tank job for a month or so. I really can't gauge this board's take on Monroe but I truly feel he is a slightly above average player on a bad team. On most playoff teams he would be their third option. He cannot finish on anyone with great size or athleticism. Hibbert and West proved this over the weekend. Yes, he will bust out a 20 and 12 night here and there but if we feel Drummond is the future, Monroe cannot help him. It's a shame we didn't get to see them start together the 2nd half of the season. I'm afraid Joe will want to see them play together all next season rather than taking advantage of Monroe's stock this summer. Tanking the next month = better draft and better pieces for a better offseason.

[DCintheD]

I hope we dont win a single game the rest of the way... I cant stand this team without Drummond and Knight... I dont like Calderon in a Pistons jersey either...

[ComboGuardCity]

I think the hate on Moose has gone over board. Every time he got the ball, 3 players collapse on him. They don't care if Stuckey or Max shoot a jumper. Neither player knows how to cut worth a damn either which further complicates things for Moose. You bring back Knight and Dre and Moose suddenly isn't swarmed. Add one more offensive weapon (Shabazz/Iguodala) and suddenly Moose is looking like an all star playing 1 on 1.

[Goldtop]

I think the hate on Moose has gone over board. Every time he got the ball, 3 players collapse on him. They don't care if Stuckey or Max shoot a jumper. Neither player knows how to cut worth a damn either which further complicates things for Moose. You bring back Knight and Dre and Moose suddenly isn't swarmed. Add one more offensive weapon (Shabazz/Iguodala) and suddenly Moose is looking like an all star playing 1 on 1.

It wasnt that he got doubled and tripled, it was what he did when he got doubled and tripled. No matter how bad a shooter Stuckey is, the odds of Monroe making a layup over the entire frontcourt of the best interior defense in the league are much, much, much lower than Stuckey making an open jumpshot. Yet Monroe continued all night to hold the ball in the post, wait for the triple team to come, and THEN make his move to the basket and force up a contested shot against 3 defenders. It was just stupid basketball all night long, and he does that a lot, not just this game. Regardless how bad the players around him are, he HAS to pass it to them if he gets doubled. If they can't make shots, so be it, but just forcing shots against triple teams is stupid. And Stuckey might be a bad shooter, but Calderon and Singler aren;t. He had options, he just ignored them and hogged the ball all night.

For a player who you are supposed to be able to run the offense through in the post, and trust him to make smart decisions, he can't even do a simple task such as drawing doubles and passing out of them. His whole worth to a team is scoring inside, passing, and rebounding. And a lot of his rebounds come just because he's a poor finisher at the rim. If he was a better finisher, he'd probably only avg 8 rebs/gm, which would be subpar for his position. He rarely ever dominates the paint rebounding. He's not a good finisher, and he can't pass out of double teams consistently, which are supposed to be his 3 main strengths.

idk, I just look at him and with no jumpshot and no defense, he only only does 3 things well - score inside, pass, and rebound, and he's really not that great at any of them. Most of all though I just don't think he fits the style of "Pistons basketball" that Dumars is trying to get back to. Sure Calderon doesn't either, but no ones talking about winning championships with him longterm. If the goal with Monroe is to win championsihips eventually, we all know the blueprint that this franchises needs to use to win it all - tough physically, defensive minded, mentally tough, clutch consistent jumpshooters, etc Monroe just doesn't fit that blueprint at all. He's the exact opposite of all those things. Unless we want to try and pattern our team after SAC in the early 00s with a high octane offense, I just don't see how Monroe fits the Pistons blueprint for championships. And that SAC team never won anything. So idk why we'd choose that over a Pistons model that has delivered 3 championship and 5 Finals appearances. We have to follow that model longterm. No one player can be bigger than the system to where you keep him even though he doesn't fit at all, unless he's LeBron James or Kevin Durant. Monroe is not good enough to alter your whole system around. Either he starts to prove he can play that style of ball, or we need to trade him for someone who can while his value is still highest.

[pistontr]

Just looking at the upcoming schedule and its not getting any easier. Given how the team has played over the last week, and how they appear to have quit on Frank, I think we might be in for a serious tank job coming up.

Take a look at the next 12 games which span the next month. And then picture this team without Drummond, and maybe without Knight too for some.

ATL
@WAS (who is playing good and we barely beat last week)
@NOH (who blew us out at home by 25)
@SAS
NYK
DAL
@LAC
@UTAH (who we may never beat again for the rest of our franchises existence)
@GSW (who blew us out at home last game WITH Drummond)
@POR (possible win)
BKN
MIA

I honestly see 1 maybe 2 wins in the next 12. How many do you got us winning?

*I left off the 11-12 categoriy as we all know thats not happeneing lol

winnable games:
ATL
@WAS
DAL (they may give up in playoff race)

[2tough]

Just looking at the upcoming schedule and its not getting any easier. Given how the team has played over the last week, and how they appear to have quit on Frank, I think we might be in for a serious tank job coming up.

Take a look at the next 12 games which span the next month. And then picture this team without Drummond, and maybe without Knight too for some.

ATL
@WAS (who is playing good and we barely beat last week)
@NOH (who blew us out at home by 25)
@SAS
NYK
DAL
@LAC
@UTAH (who we may never beat again for the rest of our franchises existence)
@GSW (who blew us out at home last game WITH Drummond)
@POR (possible win)
BKN
MIA

I honestly see 1 maybe 2 wins in the next 12. How many do you got us winning?

*I left off the 11-12 categoriy as we all know thats not happeneing lol

Utah should be changed to the Bulls, regarding who we may never beat again for the rest of our existence. 17 straight losses and counting.

[Kyrama]

ATL Loss
@WAS (who is playing good and we barely beat last week) Win
@NOH (who blew us out at home by 25) Loss
@SAS Loss
NYK Loss
DAL Win
@LACLoss
@UTAH (who we may never beat again for the rest of our franchises existence) Win
@GSW (who blew us out at home last game WITH Drummond) Loss
@POR (possible win) Loss
BKN Win
MIA Loss

My guess.

[ducler]

I can't imagine how many points we'll score tonight without Dre, BK and Bynum. Vs the Pacers, the only one who scored was Will... Will we score more than 50 points tonight ?

So now if we win one game of that list, we would be lucky. Wizards are not that bad recently and we're horrible on the road.

[Manocad]

My prediction?

Meaningless.

[Goldtop]

Only 2 games left for this stretch of games - vs BK and MIA.

Looking like its going to be only 1 win in the last month.

[Piston Pete]

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