Wiz vs DET Game Thread 2/27/13 7PM - fake dagger game

Mickstix · Post #61 » by **Mickstix** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:01 am

What's up with Wall?? Thought he was playing for a contract?? He's having far too many sucky games for someone who's supposed to be worthy of building a team around.. smh.

sfam · Post #62 » by **sfam** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:02 am

milellie111 wrote:
keynote wrote:
milellie111 wrote:Trade wall for the number 1 pick. I dont have a problem with AJ price who is a better passer, shooter and smarter player leading this team at Pg

We've seen Price as a starting PG. I'm not a fan. Granted, the bulk of his games as a starter came without Nene in the lineup, but still - if we trade Wall, priority #1 would be to find a starting-caliber PG.

Theres many teams in the Nba, good playoff teams where a stud pg is not a priority or problem (knicks,heat,grizzlies etc). I think if you build around, you would be able to get by with price.

And how exactly would we get the #1 pick with Wall?

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #63 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:02 am

keynote wrote:
milellie111 wrote:Trade wall for the number 1 pick. I dont have a problem with AJ price who is a better passer, shooter and smarter player leading this team at Pg

We've seen Price as a starting PG. I'm not a fan. Granted, the bulk of his games as a starter came without Nene in the lineup, but still - if we trade Wall, priority #1 would be to find a starting-caliber PG.

The problem with trading Wall is that he plays at fast tempo few others can match and he has superior court vision (when he's not turning it over). I would be kind of worried about a rookie guard doing what Wall is supposed to do.

McCollum doesn't have the PG skills. Smart is bulky and more of power player than a speed player. I think he could get the job done, though. Trey Burke is smallish but seems pretty good.

I would trade Wall for Kemba and an unprotected pick or for Jimmer and an unprotected pick.

GhostsOfGil · Post #64 » by **GhostsOfGil** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:02 am

TheKingOfVa360 wrote:
Halcyon wrote:I hate to overreact, but Beal looks like he'll be our definitive star. Not Wall. He's just a better basketball player, not just an athlete.

I hate to agree with you but you are right. Beal is looking like the clear cut face of the franchise. Wall is looking lost in transition. And his attitude on the bench is appealing. I've been one of the biggest Wall supporters since day 1 but I can't defend his performance or attitude tonight.

100% agreed.

milellie111 · Post #65 » by **milellie111** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:03 am

Walls issue is that he cant shoot and never will be able to shoot. Also his basketball iq and turnovers continue to dissapoint and it seems like he doesnt want to change.

Post #66 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:04 am

TheBigThree wrote:I think there is a distinct possibility that the improved play everyone wants to attribute to Wall actually has as much if not more to do with Ariza and Okafor playing out of their minds.

Beal with another great half.

True - they came back at the same time (well Price 1 game earlier). Hopefully, Wall takes inspiration from Price's play and steps up his performance in the 2nd half. I'm sure he realizes more than anyone that his 1st half performance was not acceptable.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #67 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:04 am

GhostsOfGil wrote:
TheKingOfVa360 wrote:
Halcyon wrote:I hate to overreact, but Beal looks like he'll be our definitive star. Not Wall. He's just a better basketball player, not just an athlete.

I hate to agree with you but you are right. Beal is looking like the clear cut face of the franchise. Wall is looking lost in transition. And his attitude on the bench is appalling. I've been one of the biggest Wall supporters since day 1 but I can't defend his performance or attitude tonight.

100% agreed.

Fixed. Co-signed on that.

sfam · Post #68 » by **sfam** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:05 am

milellie111 wrote:Walls issue is that he cant shoot and never will be able to shoot. Also his basketball iq and turnovers continue to dissapoint and it seems like he doesnt want to change.

How exactly did you arrive at the conclusion he'll never be able to shoot?

Halcyon · Post #69 » by **Halcyon** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:05 am

I mean Beal seems to have improved more WITHIN his ROOKIE season than Wall has in 2.5 years. Whether this improvement be attributed to physical mechanics, or the mental aspect of basketball, it kind of tells you how good Beal could possible be, and how Wall may not be on that level.

Again, just my gut feeling.

RustyMagoo · Post #70 » by **RustyMagoo** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:05 am

I am not gonna bury Wall at halftime. He's been back like 15 games from the injury.

How were Beal, Oak and Ariza looking 15 games into the season? Exactly.
Wall is gonna be alright.

sfam · Post #71 » by **sfam** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:07 am

I guess I'm just not interested in yanking the hook out every time someone has a bad stretch of games. Without continuity, we're never going to be decent, let alone great. Give this team a year or so to gel and then start making decisions about who to cut and remove.

Wizardspride · Post #72 » by **Wizardspride** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:09 am

Kevin Jones

‏@Mr_KevinJones
John Wall with a Jordan Crawford-esque attitude on the bench.

TheKingOfVa360 · Post #73 » by **TheKingOfVa360** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:12 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
Fixed. Co-signed on that.

Thanks for the assist CCJ, was typing while preparing dinner. You might be saying "I told you so" very soon. Seems you might be right about Wall

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #74 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:12 am

Does Wall drink? What does he do in his spare time? He does not strike me as very cerebral or intelligent. He does not seem to be growing as a leader or a player, and I wonder about his mental approach and preparation.

Bratty would be a word I echo from someone else in this thread to describe Wall for the most part. Petulant and reactionary more than prepared and poised. Wall is a mixed bag of extremely exceptional talent with some hugely underdeveloped areas all at the same time.

GhostsOfGil · Post #75 » by **GhostsOfGil** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:13 am

Wall 1 assist 5 turnovers in 10 minutes. Beal 6-9 shooting 12 points 0 turnovers in 18 minutes.

AFM · Post #76 » by **AFM** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:13 am

Does Wall drink? I'm pretty sure he drinks in the locker room before games.

GhostsOfGil · Post #77 » by **GhostsOfGil** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:14 am

AFM your sig is gold.

AFM · Post #78 » by **AFM** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:15 am

Thanks, GoG. I'll never take it down...

TheKingOfVa360 · Post #79 » by **TheKingOfVa360** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:15 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Does Wall drink? What does he do in his spare time? He does not strike me as very cerebral or intelligent. He does not seem to be growing as a leader or a player, and I wonder about his mental approach and preparation.

Bratty would be a word I echo from someone else in this thread to describe Wall for the most part. Petulant and reactionary more than prepared and poised. Wall is a mixed bag of extremely exceptional talent with some hugely underdeveloped areas all at the same time.

I agree 100 percent, someone needs to light a fire under him. Next year is a make or break year for Wall. He has the talent to be a superstar but he has to improve and have the right attitude. I wouldn't be shocked if he's not on the Wizards in 2 years.

TheBigThree · Post #80 » by **TheBigThree** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:15 am

Sit Wall's ass on the **** bench right now.