Official Tobias Harris watch thread (The End)

WEFFPIM · Post #661 » by **WEFFPIM** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:10 am

Mad Guru wrote:Hey, Orlando fan here, I had never heard of Tobias Harris before he got traded to us, how did he play on your team, should I expect him to keep up this great run he has had since he got here?

He barely played here, was rarely given the opportunity to show us what he had. He and Skiles clashed throughout. Skiles' had a heinously short lease for his defensive lapses, only play 10+ minutes in a game 30 times in 100+ games here.

What he does with you we don't quite know. But we'll be watching him evolve with you.

paul · Post #662 » by **paul** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:10 am

EastSideBucksFan wrote:The only game Tobias got 30+ minutes this season he put up 18 pts/6 rebs/1blk/2 threes on 8-11 FG vs Boston on the road when he did a solid job on defense vs Paul Pierce and he only scored 11 points.

The next game he got 13 minutes for his good game.

Where the hell were all you guys when I was posting this stuff when he was still on our freaking team??

I had about 5 guys wrestling me telling me how crap he was and how he didn't deserve to play when I posted that EXACT statistic no more than a month ago. Two of them are in this thread lamenting Harris' loss btw...

El Pooch Grande · Post #663 » by **El Pooch Grande** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:18 am

Scoops wrote:REALGM Bucks Board Journeyman Lovefest All Star team:

PG: Ramon Sessions
SG:
SF: Tobias Harris
PF:
C:

Fill in the rest.

Marcus Haislip still available?

bullox · Post #664 » by **bullox** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:19 am

Anthony Morrow was helping the board pitch a few tents a while back

Baddy Chuck · Post #665 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:22 am

El Pooch Grande wrote:Marcus Haislip still available?

He was wrote off well before his second season.

NerdsterBuck · Post #666 » by **NerdsterBuck** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:23 am

I'm glad we also traded for two guys who haven't played yet. This deal was horrible. Hammond is a joke when making trade. I am happy Tobias is doing great. It just shows everyone how selfish our backcourt is at getting others involved.

whatthe_buck!? · Post #667 » by **whatthe_buck!?** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:26 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:
Sherman Douglas wrote:How many times do the "Bucks fan optimists" have to be horribly wrong about everything the team does before they just go away forever?

It's funny how they can defend a "Drew Gooden is awesome" thread for 100 pages but we can't discuss Tobes.

It's crazy. I guess their position is that when the Bucks make a horrible move this message board should be expecting it and shouldn't even try to analyze how bad it was or complain about it because that's just what the bucks do. Shhhhhhhhh everybody its not even worth complaining about. When scoops says stuff like 'everyone knows the trade was awful and the front office is incompetent and that playing for the 8th seed sucks' to me those sound like reasons to criticize more loudly and frequently than less.

Speaking of things were already know, we also already know that this board gets totally up in arms when the bucks make a terrible move, so if that is a known phenomenon by anyone who reads this board even just occasionally and it bothers certain people so much then why would they even show up to be bothered by the uproar let alone post about it?

jtrinaldi · Post #668 » by **jtrinaldi** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:28 am

Scoops wrote:REALGM Bucks Board Journeyman Lovefest All Star team:

PG: Ramon Sessions/Ridnour/Shaun Livingston
SG: Jodie Meeks/Royal Ivey/Jerry Stackhouse
SF: Tobias Harris/Carlos Delfino/Corey Maggette
PF: Charlie V
C: Earl Barron

Fill in the rest.

We are lacking PF/C depth

El Pooch Grande · Post #669 » by **El Pooch Grande** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:32 am

jtrinaldi wrote:
Scoops wrote:REALGM Bucks Board Journeyman Lovefest All Star team:

PG: Ramon Sessions/Ridnour/Shaun Livingston
SG: Jodie Meeks/Royal Ivey/Jerry Stackhouse
SF: Tobias Harris/Carlos Delfino/Corey Maggette
PF: Charlie V
C: Earl Barron

Fill in the rest.

We are lacking PF/C depth

Gotta say, the tankers (of which I have occasionally been) would love this lineup...

treego · Post #670 » by **treego** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:32 am

Tobias Harris is gonna' be a good/very good player in the league for a long time, I'm thinking. I was thinking that before the Bucks traded him. I do think that the Magic got the better of this deal. I'm not even convinced that JJ Redick is much of an upgrade over Beno Udrih.

Redick, nevertheless, is a nice player---he definitely can shoot the ball which I most definitely like.

If we hadn't had stubborn coaches during Harris' tenure here, I think we would have seen Harris more and then he wouldn't have been traded because we would have seen how good he is by now.

Baddy Chuck · Post #671 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:33 am

jtrinaldi wrote:We are lacking PF/C depth

It's basically 2 different teams. You have guys like Ramon who would be lumped into the "Harris" crowd and then you have guys like Delfino, Ridnour and Livingston that the Hammond nut huggers were deeming the pickups of the century.

Nobody really liked Barron or CV though so it is a little thin, Zaza could help there.

Ill-yasova · Post #672 » by **Ill-yasova** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:35 am

blazza18 wrote:
EastSideBucksFan wrote:The only game Tobias got 30+ minutes this season he put up 18 pts/6 rebs/1blk/2 threes on 8-11 FG vs Boston on the road when he did a solid job on defense vs Paul Pierce and he only scored 11 points.

The next game he got 13 minutes for his good game.

Scott Skilesd

I remember that with Henson too. 17 points 18 boards against Miami. Next game: 0 points 0 boards in 1 minute. Skiles was the only reason Tobes wasn't putting up 16 a game for us.

paul · Post #673 » by **paul** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:38 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:
jtrinaldi wrote:We are lacking PF/C depth

It's basically 2 different teams. You have guys like Ramon who would be lumped into the "Harris" crowd and then you have guys like Delfino, Ridnour and Livingston that the Hammond nut huggers were deeming the pickups of the century.

Nobody really liked Barron or CV though so it is a little thin, Zaza could help there.

Yeah I was the odd man out because I loved me some Godnour and Carlos yet was also hugging Ramon's nuts. I'm weird.

Scoops · Post #674 » by **Scoops** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:49 am

bullox wrote:Anthony Morrow was helping the board pitch a few tents a while back

Good one for sure.

treego · Post #675 » by **treego** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:53 am

Trade Brandon Jennings to Orlando for Tobias Harris.

Scoops · Post #676 » by **Scoops** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:58 am

whatthe_buck!? wrote:
Scoops wrote:
InsideOut wrote:It doesn't matter how good Harris ends up being.

Well it does when that's what's being argued.

EVERYONE knows that from a big picture perspective that this trade was awful.

EVERYONE knows that the front office is incompetent.

EVERYONE knows that playing for the 8th seed sucks.

Let's keep making these points though!

So what is it that youre posting about? The people who are sick to their stomachs about this trade are pretty openly letting off steam by b*tching like crazy about the awfulness of this trade, are u saying that the reason you're in here is to let off steam caused by having to read all the b*tching by b*tching about us b*tching? If u don't like reading about us b*tching about this completely depressing and disgustingly awful trade that not only doesn't move the needle closer to a championship but in fact actually moves the needle in the OPPOSITE direction then a bit of advice, stop reading! Honestly, if u and Grendon are getting more worked up and annoyed by us b*tching about the awfulness of the trade than u are by the awfulness of the trade itself then there's something wrong with u guy's ability to grasp how terrible the trade was...

BUCKnation · Post #677 » by **BUCKnation** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:02 am

^^^ How I feel as a Bucks fan after the deadline.

paul · Post #678 » by **paul** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:04 am

Scoops wrote:
bullox wrote:Anthony Morrow was helping the board pitch a few tents a while back

Good one for sure.

Not sure anyone has ever thought Morrow was anything more than a great shooting roleplayer who can't do anything else.

Scoops · Post #679 » by **Scoops** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:17 am

paul wrote:
Scoops wrote:
bullox wrote:Anthony Morrow was helping the board pitch a few tents a while back

Good one for sure.

Not sure anyone has ever thought Morrow was anything more than a great shooting roleplayer who can't do anything else.

I feel like people wanted to throw around 8 million per at him when he was a FA after "blowing up" in Golden State. Could be wrong though just like I could be wrong about Tobias.

whatthe_buck!? · Post #680 » by **whatthe_buck!?** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:29 am

Scoops wrote:

You really make ur point there didnt you, very nice... Seriously tho, what exactly is the point you're trying to make in this thread? You deny that u think the trade was anything but awful so it basically just sounds like you're sick of people complaining about the Redick trade. At the same time, we're just as sick of u complaining about us complaining so it seems we're kind of at a standstill aren't we?

If the answer is you're simply trying to troll the people who are disgusted by trading Harris for Redick u did a great job and now is the time to claim victory because I appreciate I good troll job just as much as the next guy and I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one to congratulate u for a job well done, but if you're not trolling and u honestly believe that this trade isn't anything to get worked up about I feel like you are going to continue to make yourself look dumb. This was a terrible trade. Do u dispute that or no? If you can't give me a strait yes or no answer to that question then I'm gonna assume u are trolling and I'll be the first to give u a well-deserved pat on the back...