Why Teletovic should start for Brooklyn

[DWILLoftheGODZ]

Gerald Wallace is considered part of the problem when we talk about floor spacing.

Mirza Teletovic us considered a good shooter.

Wallace's 3pt% = 33.6%
Teletovic 3pt% = 32.4%

How is that improving floor spacing exactly? And why wouldnt we just start Wallace at PF since he is a better shooter, ball handler, rebounder and defender then Mirza this year?

People decided Mirza was going to be good before he even played a game. His play would suggest otherwise.

[PetroNet]

Gerald Wallace is considered part of the problem when we talk about floor spacing.

Mirza Teletovic us considered a good shooter.

Wallace's 3pt% = 33.6%
Teletovic 3pt% = 32.4%

How is that improving floor spacing exactly? And why wouldnt we just start Wallace at PF since he is a better shooter, ball handler, rebounder and defender then Mirza this year?

People decided Mirza was going to be good before he even played a game. His play would suggest otherwise.

this would be a good comparison if mirza and wallace both played the same position or if people alluded that mirza coming in for wallace would increase floor spacing.

this thread states pretty clearly from the getg o that nets fans here want mirza starting in place of reggie evans, not in place of wallace, in which case:

Evan's 3pt% = 00.0%
Teletovic 3pt% = 32.4%

which of those spaces the floor better?

[celestine]

Hello guys, you have big hello from Bosnia, this is my first post on this forum and I'm hoping it will not be my last...

You should know, that basketball is very popular sport in Bosnia, there are lot of people who are following NBA generally, there are lot of Nets fans, and not those "instant fans", because you have Mirza on your roster... I would say, this club has lots of senior fans, from whole Balkans, since early 90's, mainly because of Drazen Petrovic... For example, I was very keen on Nets, during the Kidd and Martin era...

Anyway, I can see there is lots of discussion about PF position and coaching by PJ... I would like to ask you one thing, I'm aware that you have new boss, who invested a lot of money in the club and that he is expecting results in short time, I'm aware that management and coaching staff is under a big pressure and that every game is important... But, in the season there are 82 games, is there any possibility, that PJ "sacrifice" just one game in whole season and give Mirza a chance to play 30-35 minutes... Just to see, what he can produce in that kind of game...

[Swingy]

At the very least, Hump needs to get back in favor to flip-flop minutes with Reggie. Reggie doesn't have a single NBA-worthy skill besides rebounding, occassionally smart defensive play, and screening (often illegally). The gap between Hump and Reggie in rebounding isn't large enough to justify their gap in minutes (especially since Hump doesn't turn the ball over over 25% of the time he touches the ball!). I honestly think it would be ideal for the frontcourt rotation to use Brook/Hump in the starting lineup and Blatche/Mirza in the backup rotation with Reggie being the 5th bigman. Even in last year's playoffs, VDN was smart enough to limit Reggie to under 20 minutes a game for the whole postseason.

[NyCeEvO]

Anyway, I can see there is lots of discussion about PF position and coaching by PJ... I would like to ask you one thing, I'm aware that you have new boss, who invested a lot of money in the club and that he is expecting results in short time, I'm aware that management and coaching staff is under a big pressure and that every game is important... But, in the season there are 82 games, is there any possibility, that PJ "sacrifice" just one game in whole season and give Mirza a chance to play 30-35 minutes... Just to see, what he can produce in that kind of game...

That's what we have been wanting him to do, but as long as the team keeps winning IN SPITE of the fact that this is causing problems for us, he won't change the lineup and he will not blame losses on the PF spot.

[MGrand15]

Reggie brings almost infectious energy to a team and that's great for a 15 mpg guy. When he starts playing 28-32 minutes, his flaws stand out and his strengths are exposed.

He grabs offensive boards because no one pays attention to him on offense - it gives him the freedom to move around with being boxed out. Are those offensive rebounds useful? Sure but they're misleading. His 2 offensive rebounds might lead to 10 bad offensive possessions because his defender is roaming and shutting other plays down.

He's a good screener but that skill is almost useless when you aren't a presence on offense. Watch what happens when Reggie sets an on-ball screen. His defender traps with absolutely no worry because he isn't a threat to pop or roll or even catch the ball. So who cares if he's a strong screener? His screen plays get blown up because his defender can step up without fear.

I don't know if Mirza should start (would like to get him a consistent 25 minutes first) but Mirza should get good minutes with the starting unit. His skill set fits perfectly and gives everyone room to operate. It's also a chance to get Brook to step up. Through the eye test, he's gotten better at rebounding but he's still happy to let Evans or Hump take his boards away. Put Mirza next to him and tell him that he is solely responsible for shutting down the paint and protecting the boards. He's been steadily improving - let him take the next step and give him more responsibility.

[vincecarter4pres]

Yes to everything above, excellent breakdown.

[Pen Island]

Such a great post

[N Ireland Nets]

So Bondy is saying on Twitter he asked questions to PJ today about Teletovic:

NYDNInterNets: Asked all the Mirza questions of PJ for you fans.

NYDNInterNets: PJ said he’s gonna make Mitza a priority going forward, sees him as a mismatch (good and bad) on both ends of the floor

NYDNInterNets: PJ says he will use remaining games to evaluate Mirza before settling on a rotation. (Just not immediate games because opponents are big)

This doesn’t make sense to me. PJ said he didn’t like the match ups for Tele against New Orleans with Smith and Anderson, which makes no sense.

PJ doesn’t like the match up’s for Tele in the immediate future due to the match ups being big according to Bondy. My problem with this is that Teletovic is actually our biggest PF outside of Blatche who is our back up center.

Teletovic: 6’9 255lbs
Evans: 6’8 245lbs
Humphries: 6’9 235lbs

It makes no sense to me at all. It just comes across more and more that PJ really really really doesn’t want Teletovic to play, he clearly doesn’t rate him at all.

Here's the story: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/nets/2 ... to-address

[M I K E]

PJ just like Avery before him does not like Teletovic...The only reason PJ gives lip service to Mirza is he doesn't want to further insult his owner and some upper management execs...The main reason I believe PJ does not like Mirza is that it causes problems for him trying to play a guy who has a good BBIQ in his low BBIQ rotations and playbook...There are reasons PJ has been an unsuccessful head coach in the NBA...The only reason he got the head coaching spot in the first place is kind of a fluke...Unless this team makes some serious noise in the playoffs I'm pretty sure PJ will be gone in a few months and I would wager that he will probably not be a head coach in the NBA any time soon after.

[NyCeEvO]

It's just clear that PJ is stuck between a rock and hard place.

The only reason why he is saying that they MUST figure out Mirza and give him a chance going forward is because Proky and upper management have demanded that he play more. It's clear that PJ doesn't want to play Mirza at all but if PJ wants any shot of being head coach next season, he needs to acquiesce with the request from the higher-ups even though he doesn't really want to.

[therealbig3]

Yeah, for whatever reason, PJ just doesn't want to play Mirza.

And a lot of this just goes back to Billy King. Forget his roster moves...he should be fired for the hiring of this coaching staff. You have literally billions of dollars at your disposal to hire a top of the line coaching staff, since there's no cap on how much you can spend on coaching, and you hire the biggest group of coaching rejects around the league. There's a reason why they were all available and were willing to coach a sorry ass franchise (that's just what we were before Brooklyn).

As soon as last season was over, we should have cleaned house with this coaching staff, and hired actually competent coaches that know how to utilize talent. I don't think even the pick up games I play in with my friends have as many ISO plays as the Nets do. When Avery Johnson, PJ Carlesimo, Popeye Jones, and Mario Elie come up with an offense that no other coach in the league would even think about using, what's more likely: they're geniuses that came up with an offensive system that no other coach could think of, or they're braindead morons who don't understand the simplest concepts of spacing, player movement, and ball movement? Popovich runs the exact opposite of our "system"...I think I'd trust his judgement over that of Avery Johnson and PJ Carlesimo. Tele on the Spurs would be talked about as one of the best bench players in the league, book it. He has legit skills, and he's the type of player that THRIVES in Pop's system: a smart, talented player who can shoot the ball.

[MGrand15]

He's better than Avery but PJ sure takes a long time to say nothing. (I do too but I'm not being interviewed) That article is filled with 4 paragraphs of PJ talking and it's all BS.

There's no doubt in my mind that this is just lip service for upper-management. He's admitting he's not going to play him these next 2 games (unless he wants some ice cold mirza to heat up our offense) and after that, he's going to keep the same rotations, hoping everyone forgot what he said.

Basically - big teams are a mismatch for Mirza (even though he played well against the Grizzlies) and Ryan Anderson is a mismatch for Mirza. I would love for PJ to explain what exactly he considers a good match up for him. The issue with PJ is that he's stuck in 1995. By the way, I don't know how in the world you could consider Chicago a big team. Boozer, Gibson and Noah are big? They're good but they're not BIG. Let's also ignore the fact that Mirza is probably the biggest PF we have.

Realistically, this Mirza thing isn't happening until Teletovic comes in and drops 30 or PJ is fired. PJ is clearly stuck in 1995 where Euro's are considered soft and shooting bigmen aren't useful (i saw his lineups during his stint with the Thunder... there's no hope). It's pretty upsetting that our coach prefers to handcuff our offense like this but whatever.

[NyCeEvO]

We won't forget.

We see it every time on the court and I'm sure Proky knows what's up too.

PJ can try to make people forget but unless he's a total fool, he'll listen to management or else he'll be in the unemployment line next season along with Avery.

[MGrand15]

We won't forget.

We see it every time on the court and I'm sure Proky knows what's up too.

PJ can try to make people forget but unless he's a total fool, he'll listen to management or else he'll be in the unemployment line next season along with Avery.

For my sake, I really hope he's in the unemployment line no matter what.

[Jersey Generals]

We won't forget.

We see it every time on the court and I'm sure Proky knows what's up too.

PJ can try to make people forget but unless he's a total fool, he'll listen to management or else he'll be in the unemployment line next season along with Avery.

Northern or Force, this image with PJ's face on the boy, and Avery's dumb looking face on the boy watching in the background. Ready, go!

[vincecarter4pres]

I have such a great general idea for a sig, I am also calling on Force and Ireland.

[MrDollarBills]

PJC is a dishonest jackass.

Teletovic played excellent defense against Marc Gasol in the 4th of the Memphis game. He didn't remotely give Mirza a chance in the Hornets game.

Meanwhile, Evans has stunk up the gym night after night and he plays him with blatant disregard for this team's success.

Mismatches my ass.

PJ is a lame duck and doesn't give a ****. He knows one of his coaching buds will bring him in to their bench next season, so why not screw up the team that fired his buddy Avery.

[N Ireland Nets]

I have such a great general idea for a sig, I am also calling on Force and Ireland.

Bring it.

I'm making a GIF atm for the next PJ mess up, so probably tonight

[MrDollarBills]

We won't forget.

We see it every time on the court and I'm sure Proky knows what's up too.

PJ can try to make people forget but unless he's a total fool, he'll listen to management or else he'll be in the unemployment line next season along with Avery.

He will not have a job with this team this season.

When the team's owner points out correctly that this team looked bad in wins, and fired the coach, you don't think that he notices the same crap happening with the interim?

Prokhorov will probably go for a big name.