Dwayne Casey's Horrible Coaching

Inevitable · Post #241 » by **Inevitable** » Sat Mar 2, 2013 2:36 am

Our heavy ISO offensive structure is getting exposed bad, we desperately need a post player to take the pressure off of Rudy and Demar.

NERDbwoy · Post #242 » by **NERDbwoy** » Sat Mar 2, 2013 2:59 am

Our offence is horrible to watch. It seriously is just all off ball screen then iso. It's ridiculous how athletic our team is and we're at the bottom in fast break points.

Rapcity_11 · Post #243 » by **Rapcity_11** » Sat Mar 2, 2013 2:59 am

Inevitable wrote:Our heavy ISO offensive structure is getting exposed bad, we desperately need a post player to take the pressure off of Rudy and Demar.

That would be terrible.

The post player would have no room to operate and the paint would be even more clogged for Gay/DD/Lowry.

Inevitable · Post #244 » by **Inevitable** » Sat Mar 2, 2013 3:03 am

Rapcity_11 wrote:
Inevitable wrote:Our heavy ISO offensive structure is getting exposed bad, we desperately need a post player to take the pressure off of Rudy and Demar.

That would be terrible.

The post player would have no room to operate and the paint would be even more clogged for Gay/DD/Lowry.

Memphis doesn't and didn't seem to have an issue with spacing with their two bigs in the paint. They also had Tony Allen a much worse shooter than Demar with Rudy. Lowry and Conley cancel each other out as they are both capable three point shooters.

Rapcity_11 · Post #245 » by **Rapcity_11** » Sat Mar 2, 2013 3:19 am

Inevitable wrote:
Rapcity_11 wrote:
Inevitable wrote:Our heavy ISO offensive structure is getting exposed bad, we desperately need a post player to take the pressure off of Rudy and Demar.

That would be terrible.

The post player would have no room to operate and the paint would be even more clogged for Gay/DD/Lowry.

Memphis doesn't and didn't seem to have an issue with spacing with their two bigs in the paint. They also had Tony Allen a much worse shooter than Demar with Rudy. Lowry and Conley cancel each other out as they are both capable three point shooters.

For one, Memphis is a poor offensive team. They are elite defensively.

Second, they have 2 of the best probably 5 post players in the league. Those kinds of guys aren't realistically attainable.

Dr Positivity · Post #246 » by **Dr Positivity** » Sat Mar 2, 2013 3:27 am

If BC stays Casey's fked. We're going to pull a Triano by saying the remedy is a fast break friendly, offensive team where D is optional. Yay merry go round, keep turning!

grumpwalter · Post #247 » by **grumpwalter** » Sat Mar 2, 2013 4:11 am

Triano >>>>>>>> Casey

I bet even Casey would have Maceo Baston playing extended minutes.

Inevitable · Post #248 » by **Inevitable** » Sat Mar 2, 2013 4:38 am

Rapcity_11 wrote:

For one, Memphis is a poor offensive team. They are elite defensively.

Second, they have 2 of the best probably 5 post players in the league. Those kinds of guys aren't realistically attainable.

It is still possible to have a working offence with Rudy and Demar feeding a post player. In fact, a team doubling a post player will open up the game for Rudy or Demar to attack with some ball movement.

The reason why we also are one of the worst efficient teams is that we rely on tougher, less efficient shots. If we had an option down low to get us high efficient baskets we'd be in a much better position.

Mikestro · Post #249 » by **Mikestro** » Sat Mar 2, 2013 5:26 am

Any coach would not be able to do much better with our roster as currently constructed. Our team is dysfunctional in so many ways: no veterans/experienced players, no post presence on offense or defense, our top 2 players are identical and don't really compliment each other, our starting C is still a rookie, etc... Firing Casey isn't going to solve any of this.

grumpwalter · Post #250 » by **grumpwalter** » Sat Mar 2, 2013 5:27 am

Mikestro wrote:Any coach would not be able to do much better with our roster as currently constructed. Our team is dysfunctional in so many ways: no veterans/experienced players, no post presence on offense or defense, our top 2 players are identical and don't really compliment each other, our starting C is still a rookie, etc... Firing Casey isn't going to solve any of this.

well letting Triano didn't solve anything either.

J-Roc · Post #251 » by **J-Roc** » Sun Mar 3, 2013 4:06 am

Okay, I get Casey giving every possession to Anderson because he's being guarded by Redick. I get it because I know if we had JJ Redick, he'd be getting torched every night, like we had with Jose.

But then there's a possession where the Bucks change and put Mbah a Moute on Anderson, and Redick on Lowry. Does Casey call a play for Lowry? No, he calls for DeMar to try to iso drive on Ellis. Fear the spin...

EH15 · Post #252 » by **EH15** » Sun Mar 3, 2013 4:09 am

I'm even starting to doubt Casey's defensive abilities. Our defence sucks anytime we pick up the pace. We were only middle of the pack last year because we played at a snail's pace. I can't believe I'm saying this. But Triano is actually a better coach than him.

Waylon Mercy · Post #253 » by **Waylon Mercy** » Sun Mar 3, 2013 4:24 am

For the love of god I can't take any more brain dead coaching another season where the
**** do we find these coaches???

jonas_franchise · Post #254 » by **jonas_franchise** » Sun Mar 3, 2013 4:31 am

Man. What a frustrating team this is. Casey loves Bargnani so much he's taken on his philosophy about the importance of rebounding. WTF. Small ball has gotta be the worst thing have ever happen to this team. IT'S NOT WORKING!! PLAY A GOD DAMN TRADITIONAL LINE UP!!! We are not the HEAT for god sakes!!

CrownJ · Post #255 » by **CrownJ** » Sun Mar 3, 2013 4:34 am

again he takes out lucas who had the hot hands and doesnt play him the rest of 4th + OT

Crazy-Canuck · Post #256 » by **Crazy-Canuck** » Sun Mar 3, 2013 4:34 am

We were playing beautifully in the 1Q; passing, cutting and everything inside out.

Then we went small ball with JL3 and AA speaheading the iso game.

I thought we were doing well with Amir, Bargs and Val posting them up, we should have kept at it and trying to post up DD more against a midget.

However AA and JL3 are just too ball dominant to not be a part of whatever we do out, our guys our too passive and easily defer to them when they shouldnt.

Post #257 » by **DG88** » Sun Mar 3, 2013 4:47 am

jonas_franchise wrote:Man. What a frustrating team this is. Casey loves Bargnani so much he's taken on his philosophy about the importance of rebounding. WTF. Small ball has gotta be the worst thing have ever happen to this team. IT'S NOT WORKING!! PLAY A GOD DAMN TRADITIONAL LINE UP!!! We are not the HEAT for god sakes!!

Casey must know something we don't. May be he's trying to coach himself outta town

BryceMaxJames · Post #258 » by **BryceMaxJames** » Sun Mar 3, 2013 4:52 am

This is so hard to watch, why doesn't Casey play Val in the 4th? If they are playing to give away a high lottery pick then at least play the rookies. Disgusting!!!!!

Truthrising · Post #259 » by **Truthrising** » Sun Mar 3, 2013 4:54 am

BryceMaxJames wrote:This is so hard to watch, why doesn't Casey play Val in the 4th? If they are playing to give away a high lottery pick then at least play the rookies. Disgusting!!!!!

Mathematically, we're still in it. AA + Bargs come hell or high water.

dagger · Post #260 » by **dagger** » Sun Mar 3, 2013 4:58 am

Casey took the team that won 23 games last year in a 66 game season and was given Lowry and Gay along the way. I have no idea now what our offence is supposed to be. Casey has utterly failed to integrate the talent given him. It's either ISO Rudy or ISO Demar. The pick and roll has largely vanished since Jose left. He has emasculated Lowry, tried to make him something he really isn't: Jose. There is no more big to big passing, not much anyways. As I have said many times, Casey has an overly simplistic offensive system which imposes no discipline and leaves too much decision making to the ball handler, which leads to rampant predictability and over-dribbling.

Here's a stat for you. Lowry is 29th in the league in three pt shooting percentage, but 69th in 3 pt shots taken. Alan Anderson has taken more 3 pt shots and Lucas takes more per game. Lowry is averaging a respectable 40.9% behind the arc, Anderson is around 34%. Wouldn't you give Lowry the green light/encouragement more often, with the proviso he has a decent look and maybe a rebounder in position? Rudy Gay has taken only five fewer three points this season that Lowry and is shooting 29%. What is the point of having advanced analytics if you don't learn from the simplest box score stats?

At some point, the coach has to have a plan, and he has to have the balls to tell certain guys don't take the 3pt shot unless you're up against the clock or you have a ridiculously open look.

We're dying on the cross of some simple stats.