Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edition)

[rcklsscognition]

Any team you think BBD might go to, I'd slip JJ Hickson in their first, he's going to be the first option for every team.

[woosah]

so wrong.

Yeah i don't think anyone will give up their 1st in that draft.


I am really curious about what we will do with that huge TPE. I can't see us just letting that huge asset expire. Everytime i peek into versions of this thread i don't see much talk about it.

[toquito]

:lol: so wrong.

Yeah i don't think anyone will give up their 1st in that draft.


I am really curious about what we will do with that huge TPE. I can't see us just letting that huge asset expire. Everytime i peek into versions of this thread i don't see much talk about it.

The TPE will get us a 2014 1st if used in the right situation. It's up to Henny if he want's to handicap us with Amare or some other crap contract though.

[OrlChamps2030]

Would Minny have interest in a Roy/1st for Afflalo? That'd be a great way to grab a duo of pg/big, pg/wing, or wing/big. We'd be able to grab one of (Noel, Oladipo, Porter, Smart, McLemore, Len, Shabazz) with our own pick and (McCollum, Burke, Caldwell-Pope, Cauley-Stein, Gobert, Goodwin, Adams?, MCW?) with Minnys pick.

[IGotDaMagicInMe]

:lol: so wrong.

Yeah i don't think anyone will give up their 1st in that draft.


I am really curious about what we will do with that huge TPE. I can't see us just letting that huge asset expire. Everytime i peek into versions of this thread i don't see much talk about it.

The TPE will get us a 2014 1st if used in the right situation. It's up to Henny if he want's to handicap us with Amare or some other crap contract though.

Its a shame there aren't as many bad contracts now as there were pre-amnesty

[IGotDaMagicInMe]

Brian K. Schmitz ‏@MagicInsider
Magic haven't ruled out Big Baby playing, but can't imagine it happening. Especially not with Andrew Nicholson, Tobias Harris playing well

Brian K. Schmitz ‏@MagicInsider
Big Baby Davis will be shopped this summer or before next trade deadline. Best move for retool and for Baby, with more losing up ahead.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bxcke4a ?

[NickAnderson]

Brian K. Schmitz ‏@MagicInsider
Magic haven't ruled out Big Baby playing, but can't imagine it happening. Especially not with Andrew Nicholson, Tobias Harris playing well

Brian K. Schmitz ‏@MagicInsider
Big Baby Davis will be shopped this summer or before next trade deadline. Best move for retool and for Baby, with more losing up ahead.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bxcke4a ?

LOL OKC hangs up the phone.

[shadrock]

Anyone think we could interest Houston in this deal for BBD next season:

BBD to Hou
Fran Garcia (expiring) + Houston 2014 1st rounder to Orl

The money works.

Why for Houston? Adding an experienced, useful-for-contending piece in Davis. I personally think he could be great on that roster with good passing guards like Lin and Harden. Sets great screens, plays solid defense etc. After trading for Thomas Robinson they lack experience at the PF position. However, they'll likely try and sign Josh Smith as a FA, if they're unsuccessful though...

Why for Orl? Tanking move, and asset accumulation in a 1st rounder. It won't be an early 1st, given Houston's likely improvement next season, but 2014 is looking a deep talented draft.

Would Houston give up a 2014 1st for BBD though? What use is a young guy in 2014 to a team that's trying to contend?

EDIT: I get the feeling people are going to laugh me off for suggesting BBD is worth a 2014 1st rounder, but I think value is relative. He could be worth that to a contender, for whom a young rookie isn't as valuable. Plus, I rate BBD more than others do, especially when he's not given 15 shots per game.

- Also, do Houston have a 2014 1st? Or did that get shipped to OKC for Harden??

No 1 is giving up a 2014 1st round pick

Thanks for the incredible amount of insight you have given here. Really convincing argument

[Ballah]

It's absolutely true, no one will give you a 2014 pick.

[Neon1]

It's absolutely true, no one will give you a 2014 pick.

I wouldn't say that. Now if we are talking LOTTO PICKS, then yeah i agree, nobody giving that **** up.

[Noonskadoodle]

HMMMMMM......Incarcerated Bob has gotten a lot of FA signings in the NFL right before even the likes of ESPN was reporting them, but doubt he has any legit sources in the NBA.

Former employee of Anthony Bosch claims a Mr.Paul picked up items from the clinic on a monthly basis , and when he paid the initials L.J. where used in the bookkeeping log.. Why would that be suspicious? Well Lebron's best friend and agent's name is Rich Paul … - See more at: http://ibnsportswrap.com/article.php?ar ... fF5wB.dpuf

More proof that the american sports world is a mess. You’ve heard some words from Incarcerated Bob on twitter saying that some more names were linked with the whole scandal that rocked the world earlier this year, A Rod being the biggest of them all. But before getting to the dirty part, let’s make put up a little background story. Introducing first our guest on the line : Jessica. She had been introduced to Anthony Bosch by mutual friends before beginning to work for him from April 2010 to February 2012 as a assistant before leaving the company. She was in charge of keeping track of pretty much every financial transfer in Bosch’s clinic. And, rightfully so, she contacted Incarcerated Bob to let the world know what she’s been seeing over the last two years.



Here’s some details about the things she kept track of :



Incarcerated Bob : What names stood out to you ?

Jessica : LJ, JN, Francisco, Cruz ..

Incarcerated Bob : These were the name that you just had and were told to put in the books ?

Jessica : Yes.

Incarcerated Bob : How did that work, money would come in ? Did Mr Bosch tell you to put some initials in the books ?

Jessica : Yes. Like LJ, someone named Mr Paul would come in and Mr Bosch would give a check to put in the book LJ as being “payed for the month”.



Our guest added later that this Mr Paul came every month, once a month, taking products for LJ. She told IBN Sports Wrap that Mr Paul was a friend of LeBron James and what we know for sure is that one of LJB’s closest friend AND agent is Rich Paul. She also pointed out that some of her coworkers were 100% sure that Lebron James was a client of the instute and was the LJ in question. But here more details :





Incarcerated Bob : Now, you also said a JN who did it stood for ?

Jessica : Jameer Nelson.

Incarcerated Bob : How do you know JN is Jameer Nelson ?

Jessica : Well, he came to the office.

Incarcerated Bob : So you’re saying Jameer Nelson came in person ?

Jessica : Yes

Incarcerated Bob : What did he take ? Did he make a payment ?

Jessica : Yes, he took products.

Incarcerated Bob : Did he actually pay ?

Jessica : Yeah, he paid in cash.



Our guest officially identified Jameer Nelson, player of the Orlando Magic who had come in person to Anthony Bosch’s office numerous times and later confirmed that she was indeed telling the truth about both him and LeBron James. Answering a question from Incarcerated Bob, the former Biogenesis bookkeeper told IBN that she was instructed to destroy all the files when the investigations began on Mr Bosch’s clinic and our guest had been explicitly asked to erase the initials and the name (JN, LJ, Francisco ..) from the files/bookkeeping logs.

In my view too many things add up for this to be a coincidence , we have a smoking gun who physically saw one NBA star (Jameer Nelson) and who saw a Mr. Paul make payments for someone who had the initials L.J. -- Meanwhile the best friend for (Lebron James) is non other than Rich Paul.. Something smells real fishy in South Beach and it's not those late night Miami escorts. The NBA clearly has a steroid problem and their superstar looks involved, the fans deserve a thorough investigation and possibly future testing.

http://ibnsportswrap.com/article.php?articleID=28

[OrlandO]

HMMMMMM......Incarcerated Bob has gotten a lot of FA signings in the NFL right before even the likes of ESPN was reporting them, but doubt he has any legit sources in the NBA.

Former employee of Anthony Bosch claims a Mr.Paul picked up items from the clinic on a monthly basis , and when he paid the initials L.J. where used in the bookkeeping log.. Why would that be suspicious? Well Lebron's best friend and agent's name is Rich Paul … - See more at: http://ibnsportswrap.com/article.php?ar ... fF5wB.dpuf

More proof that the american sports world is a mess. You’ve heard some words from Incarcerated Bob on twitter saying that some more names were linked with the whole scandal that rocked the world earlier this year, A Rod being the biggest of them all. But before getting to the dirty part, let’s make put up a little background story. Introducing first our guest on the line : Jessica. She had been introduced to Anthony Bosch by mutual friends before beginning to work for him from April 2010 to February 2012 as a assistant before leaving the company. She was in charge of keeping track of pretty much every financial transfer in Bosch’s clinic. And, rightfully so, she contacted Incarcerated Bob to let the world know what she’s been seeing over the last two years.



Here’s some details about the things she kept track of :



Incarcerated Bob : What names stood out to you ?

Jessica : LJ, JN, Francisco, Cruz ..

Incarcerated Bob : These were the name that you just had and were told to put in the books ?

Jessica : Yes.

Incarcerated Bob : How did that work, money would come in ? Did Mr Bosch tell you to put some initials in the books ?

Jessica : Yes. Like LJ, someone named Mr Paul would come in and Mr Bosch would give a check to put in the book LJ as being “payed for the month”.



Our guest added later that this Mr Paul came every month, once a month, taking products for LJ. She told IBN Sports Wrap that Mr Paul was a friend of LeBron James and what we know for sure is that one of LJB’s closest friend AND agent is Rich Paul. She also pointed out that some of her coworkers were 100% sure that Lebron James was a client of the instute and was the LJ in question. But here more details :





Incarcerated Bob : Now, you also said a JN who did it stood for ?

Jessica : Jameer Nelson.

Incarcerated Bob : How do you know JN is Jameer Nelson ?

Jessica : Well, he came to the office.

Incarcerated Bob : So you’re saying Jameer Nelson came in person ?

Jessica : Yes

Incarcerated Bob : What did he take ? Did he make a payment ?

Jessica : Yes, he took products.

Incarcerated Bob : Did he actually pay ?

Jessica : Yeah, he paid in cash.



Our guest officially identified Jameer Nelson, player of the Orlando Magic who had come in person to Anthony Bosch’s office numerous times and later confirmed that she was indeed telling the truth about both him and LeBron James. Answering a question from Incarcerated Bob, the former Biogenesis bookkeeper told IBN that she was instructed to destroy all the files when the investigations began on Mr Bosch’s clinic and our guest had been explicitly asked to erase the initials and the name (JN, LJ, Francisco ..) from the files/bookkeeping logs.

In my view too many things add up for this to be a coincidence , we have a smoking gun who physically saw one NBA star (Jameer Nelson) and who saw a Mr. Paul make payments for someone who had the initials L.J. -- Meanwhile the best friend for (Lebron James) is non other than Rich Paul.. Something smells real fishy in South Beach and it's not those late night Miami escorts. The NBA clearly has a steroid problem and their superstar looks involved, the fans deserve a thorough investigation and possibly future testing.

http://ibnsportswrap.com/article.php?articleID=28

[silent1900]

"When asked to describe Mr. Nelson, the former employee replied, 'White guy, about 6'10", spoke with an accent, smelled like pizza.' "


By the way, I call nonsense on the whole thing...and as much as I do not like LBJ, I hope I am right.

[londoncollin]

I feel like that would have come out in the initial reports. Like, Lebron is the biggest name in sports right now. No way he's being overlooked.

But we'll see, I guess.

[glennathan]

HMMMMMM......Incarcerated Bob has gotten a lot of FA signings in the NFL right before even the likes of ESPN was reporting them, but doubt he has any legit sources in the NBA.

Former employee of Anthony Bosch claims a Mr.Paul picked up items from the clinic on a monthly basis , and when he paid the initials L.J. where used in the bookkeeping log.. Why would that be suspicious? Well Lebron's best friend and agent's name is Rich Paul … - See more at: http://ibnsportswrap.com/article.php?ar ... fF5wB.dpuf

More proof that the american sports world is a mess. You’ve heard some words from Incarcerated Bob on twitter saying that some more names were linked with the whole scandal that rocked the world earlier this year, A Rod being the biggest of them all. But before getting to the dirty part, let’s make put up a little background story. Introducing first our guest on the line : Jessica. She had been introduced to Anthony Bosch by mutual friends before beginning to work for him from April 2010 to February 2012 as a assistant before leaving the company. She was in charge of keeping track of pretty much every financial transfer in Bosch’s clinic. And, rightfully so, she contacted Incarcerated Bob to let the world know what she’s been seeing over the last two years.



Here’s some details about the things she kept track of :



Incarcerated Bob : What names stood out to you ?

Jessica : LJ, JN, Francisco, Cruz ..

Incarcerated Bob : These were the name that you just had and were told to put in the books ?

Jessica : Yes.

Incarcerated Bob : How did that work, money would come in ? Did Mr Bosch tell you to put some initials in the books ?

Jessica : Yes. Like LJ, someone named Mr Paul would come in and Mr Bosch would give a check to put in the book LJ as being “payed for the month”.



Our guest added later that this Mr Paul came every month, once a month, taking products for LJ. She told IBN Sports Wrap that Mr Paul was a friend of LeBron James and what we know for sure is that one of LJB’s closest friend AND agent is Rich Paul. She also pointed out that some of her coworkers were 100% sure that Lebron James was a client of the instute and was the LJ in question. But here more details :





Incarcerated Bob : Now, you also said a JN who did it stood for ?

Jessica : Jameer Nelson.

Incarcerated Bob : How do you know JN is Jameer Nelson ?

Jessica : Well, he came to the office.

Incarcerated Bob : So you’re saying Jameer Nelson came in person ?

Jessica : Yes

Incarcerated Bob : What did he take ? Did he make a payment ?

Jessica : Yes, he took products.

Incarcerated Bob : Did he actually pay ?

Jessica : Yeah, he paid in cash.



Our guest officially identified Jameer Nelson, player of the Orlando Magic who had come in person to Anthony Bosch’s office numerous times and later confirmed that she was indeed telling the truth about both him and LeBron James. Answering a question from Incarcerated Bob, the former Biogenesis bookkeeper told IBN that she was instructed to destroy all the files when the investigations began on Mr Bosch’s clinic and our guest had been explicitly asked to erase the initials and the name (JN, LJ, Francisco ..) from the files/bookkeeping logs.

In my view too many things add up for this to be a coincidence , we have a smoking gun who physically saw one NBA star (Jameer Nelson) and who saw a Mr. Paul make payments for someone who had the initials L.J. -- Meanwhile the best friend for (Lebron James) is non other than Rich Paul.. Something smells real fishy in South Beach and it's not those late night Miami escorts. The NBA clearly has a steroid problem and their superstar looks involved, the fans deserve a thorough investigation and possibly future testing.

http://ibnsportswrap.com/article.php?articleID=28

I think it was an interesting read but seriously doubt that Jameer had done steroids. LeBron would not shock me. No way NBA lets their golden boy get busted with Steroids

[Neon1]

I wouldnt be surprised if this is legit. We always seem to be mixed up in some sort of PED issues. League might really have to investigate our strength coach and or training staff also.

[Def Swami]

Incarcerated Bob is the boy who cried wolf.

[BadMofoPimp]

Would Minny have interest in a Roy/1st for Afflalo? That'd be a great way to grab a duo of pg/big, pg/wing, or wing/big. We'd be able to grab one of (Noel, Oladipo, Porter, Smart, McLemore, Len, Shabazz) with our own pick and (McCollum, Burke, Caldwell-Pope, Cauley-Stein, Gobert, Goodwin, Adams?, MCW?) with Minnys pick.

I would consider it, but I don't think Devos would be interested in having (3) players riding the bench on a losing team plus Arenas contract. That would be like paying $45 mil for players either barely or not playing.

[Def Swami]

Evan Dunlap ‏@BQRMagic
Jacque likes Al's hustle and wants to improve his conditioning. 1 reason why KOQ's mins are reduced. http://sbn.to/15tfPkH

I'm convinced that Vaughn isn't worried at all about winning these games. These games are like extra scrimmaging for the young guys and showcasing for the vets.

[trebone]

Would Minny have interest in a Roy/1st for Afflalo? That'd be a great way to grab a duo of pg/big, pg/wing, or wing/big. We'd be able to grab one of (Noel, Oladipo, Porter, Smart, McLemore, Len, Shabazz) with our own pick and (McCollum, Burke, Caldwell-Pope, Cauley-Stein, Gobert, Goodwin, Adams?, MCW?) with Minnys pick.

I would consider it, but I don't think Devos would be interested in having (3) players riding the bench on a losing team plus Arenas contract. That would be like paying $45 mil for players either barely or not playing.

I would do this deal, we move longterm money for an expiring and a lotto pick, we would be thin at the 2 spot but Roy is supposedly the consummate professional and would probably be very good in the locker room. And with the other pick we could get luck and maybe get Noel and one of the other sg projects.