Can we get to 50?

xam2k7 · Post #1 » by **xam2k7** » Tue Mar 5, 2013 4:23 am

We arent playing our best ball right now clearly but with joe coming back hopefully healthy after a weekend off and maybe brook can get his head back into the game... is there any way we could finish the season 16-6? do u see it happening?

i feel like for this to happen its clear that reggie evans needs a significant reduction in playing time and blatche/lopez should play together more often. with those 2 in the game we have a huge advantage over many NBA front courts on the offensive end and their length and quickness would combine to protect the rim on the defensive end too.

thoughts?

Jersey Generals · Post #2 » by **Jersey Generals** » Tue Mar 5, 2013 4:48 am

Wins:

March- Bobcats, Washington, Atlanta, Philly, New Orleans, Detroit, Phoenix, Portland.
April- Cleveland, Charlotte, Philly, Indy, Toronto, Washington and Detroit.

Losses:

March- Atlanta, Dallas, Los Angeles.
April- Chicago and Boston.

Toss up:

March- Denver and Utah.

It'll be tight. I'm guessing 49, meaning 15-7, with the Nets losing in Utah and dropping one of the wins that I have listed, maybe Indy.

PetroNet · Post #3 » by **PetroNet** » Tue Mar 5, 2013 6:36 am

no. too many road games, too many back to backs. i think 46-47 is about accurate. there are winnable games, but i just cant see us not dropping one of washington, detroit, portland. there is gonna be a hiccup or 2.

xam2k7 · Post #4 » by **xam2k7** » Tue Mar 5, 2013 4:05 pm

I feel like 47 wins would be a successful first brooklyn season given the injuries and coaching woes... would love to get 50 but as long as we're the 4-5 seed im ok with the regular season... obviously 3 seed would be ideal

xam2k7 · Post #5 » by **xam2k7** » Tue Mar 5, 2013 4:57 pm

We can probably get to 50 wins if we put the ball in loko toko's hands... the belgian lebron

M I K E · Post #6 » by **M I K E** » Tue Mar 5, 2013 5:30 pm

Right now I'm hoping we can get 45...I believe 11 of our next 14 games are on the road including an 8 game road trip...Hopefully some of those "bad" teams we play will be in tank mode when playing us like bad teams always do towards the end of the season.

PetroNet · Post #7 » by **PetroNet** » Fri Mar 8, 2013 11:10 pm

need to go 13-6, here is probably the most likely scenario for that to happen:

@phi W
NO (B2B) W
Atl W
@det(B2B) W
@Dal L
@LAC L
@PHO(B2B) W
@Por W
@den L
@Uta (B2B) L
@cle W
chi (b2B) L
char W
phi W
@bos (b2B) L
@ ind W
@ tor W
wiz (B2B) W
det W

tall order

edit: took care of business last night, looking a bit more reachable

enetric · Post #8 » by **enetric** » Sat Mar 9, 2013 7:36 pm

I have us at exactly 50 wins, Knicks 51, Pacers 52.

PetroNet · Post #9 » by **PetroNet** » Sat Mar 9, 2013 7:45 pm

enetric wrote:I have us at exactly 50 wins, Knicks 51, Pacers 52.

from the above list of reamaining games, which do you think we win and lose?

50 would be impressive, 2 shy of the '01 kidd team, with a better field of opponents. although, both years a weak east.

Keith Van Horn · Post #10 » by **Keith Van Horn** » Sat Mar 9, 2013 11:01 pm

I say 49 bc this is the nets. You never get what you're wanting in the end.

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enetric · Post #11 » by **enetric** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:54 am

PetroNet wrote:
enetric wrote:I have us at exactly 50 wins, Knicks 51, Pacers 52.

from the above list of reamaining games, which do you think we win and lose?

50 would be impressive, 2 shy of the '01 kidd team, with a better field of opponents. although, both years a weak east.

Your list has us at 13-7 the rest of the way which is 49 wins.

I see Dallas, Utah, Chicago no Rose, Boston as all winnable games. Need ONE more.

From the wins you listed below I gave us a loss against Indiana when I charted it...so pick two more from the above list to get to 50. I agree that we will not beat everyone we expect to beat...but I think we will get a surprise win or two as well. I am encouraged big time by Deron's huge game. As I have said repeatedly...it all comes down to star power for this team. Not the team flaws we waste time yapping about.

By the way I gave NY 51. Amare out 6 weeks after I posted that and Melo still out. Could get interesting. But...I like Indiana to take the 2 seed.

@atl (back 2 back) L
@phi W
NO (B2B) W
Atl W
@det(B2B) W
@Dal L
@LAC L
@PHO(B2B) W
@Por W
@den L
@Uta (B2B) L
@cle W
chi (b2B) L
char W
phi W
@bos (b2B) L
@ ind W
@ tor W
wiz (B2B) W
det W

bobbyc · Post #12 » by **bobbyc** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:18 am

At the end of the season teams under .500 stop playing hard, cause they have no chance at the playoffs.

So, I think we get to 50.

LOUiS-D · Post #13 » by **LOUiS-D** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:43 am

It'd be huge if we can steal the atlantic division. I'd rather fall to 6 or 7 and not have HCA than face Miami in the second round. Unfortunately I think that's exactly what's going to happen. We'll end up 4 or 5 seed with high 40s wins.

PetroNet · Post #14 » by **PetroNet** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:20 pm

LOUiS-D wrote:It'd be huge if we can steal the atlantic division. I'd rather fall to 6 or 7 and not have HCA than face Miami in the second round. Unfortunately I think that's exactly what's going to happen. We'll end up 4 or 5 seed with high 40s wins.

i hate all this "second round talk"

1) we have to get out of the first round for it to matter anyway

2) if we are going to make even some kind of darkhorse run, we eventually have to face miami

3) if we lose in round 2, id rather it be to miami then some other middle of the pack team like boston

4) if we have to face miami, id rather it be earlier where maybe they sleep on us a bit.

we get alot more credit losing to miami in round 2 then we do to anyone else.

for me the goals are win the division and dont get bounced in round 1. we do that we are golden in my eyes

JoseRizal · Post #15 » by **JoseRizal** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:36 am

PetroNet wrote:
LOUiS-D wrote:It'd be huge if we can steal the atlantic division. I'd rather fall to 6 or 7 and not have HCA than face Miami in the second round. Unfortunately I think that's exactly what's going to happen. We'll end up 4 or 5 seed with high 40s wins.

i hate all this "second round talk"

1) we have to get out of the first round for it to matter anyway

2) if we are going to make even some kind of darkhorse run, we eventually have to face miami

3) if we lose in round 2, id rather it be to miami then some other middle of the pack team like boston

4) if we have to face miami, id rather it be earlier where maybe they sleep on us a bit.

we get alot more credit losing to miami in round 2 then we do to anyone else.

for me the goals are win the division and dont get bounced in round 1. we do that we are golden in my eyes

I'd rather face Miami in the ECF than play them in the 1st round. That's why a 2nd or 3rd seed is crucial to get on top of the HCA...

therealbig3 · Post #16 » by **therealbig3** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:10 am

If we're going to lose in the 1st round regardless, it doesn't matter if we're the 4th or 6th seed. But if we do "somehow" win (can't believe we're this pessimistic about this team, jeez), wouldn't you rather face someone other than Miami in the 2nd round? Because you're lying to yourself if you think we "can't" beat anyone other than Miami in a playoff series. The likelihood of it is up for debate, but we've beaten every other non-Miami Eastern conference playoff team at least once, so we obviously "can" beat them.

PetroNet · Post #17 » by **PetroNet** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:43 pm

therealbig3 wrote:If we're going to lose in the 1st round regardless, it doesn't matter if we're the 4th or 6th seed. But if we do "somehow" win (can't believe we're this pessimistic about this team, jeez), wouldn't you rather face someone other than Miami in the 2nd round? Because you're lying to yourself if you think we "can't" beat anyone other than Miami in a playoff series. The likelihood of it is up for debate, but we've beaten every other non-Miami Eastern conference playoff team at least once, so we obviously "can" beat them.

id rather face miami in the second round. i think if anyone is going to beat them it will be early and they look past someone.

i really dont care if we lose in the 2nd or 3rd round. the goal is to win it all. and our best shot i think would be to get them early

enetric · Post #18 » by **enetric** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:34 pm

We have NO chance to beat the Heat. No one in the EC does barring major injury to their team. So no...there will no right time to face them.

Makes perfect sense to root for a 2/3 seed over the 4/5 to avoid them early. At least that way we can see how we really rank compared to the rest of the conference. To me that is the logical stepping stone here. Have a chance to face the Knicks or Pacers in the second round over a 7 game series. I think that is the type of series where you can walk away from with a learning curve for next year win or lose.

I want good playoff basketball. Not the honor of being a chew toy for Miami to warm up on before they get to the main course.

vincecarter4pres · Post #19 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:09 pm

There isn't a team in the Eastern Conference that can take Miami past 5 games.

There's only 2 in the NBA that can beat them at all, one is San An and the other is Denver if they went super white hot from 3 and forced a gazillion turnovers on some flukey ****, but the problem with that is Denver isn't a real contender at all really so has almost no chance to even get to the Finals and then you're asking the vastly inferior team with no true star go to scorer to beat Miami at their own game.

OKC doesn't stand a chance in Hell, neither do the Clippers. Memphis is one of those teams that on paper everyone says can but they're missing that superstar wing or point guard so they're out.

The Lakers kind of sort of would if they somehow came out of the West, but it's more off on paper name hype even if the hype was real enough in function to get them there by way of 3 upsets.

This Miami team is the all time juggernaut we said it was when they formed in 2010 for the most part. Maybe not as invincible as we thought they would be, but damn close. Right now there's really only one team that can challenge them and that team is rife with older players playing way above their current heads for the most part.

It's going to take OKC or the Lakers either growing from within and/or making a huge move on draft night, or Us, or the Bulls, or the Clippers, or the Nuggets, or the Pacers to make a MAJOR move and shakeup for anyone to beat them over the next 3 seasons including this one.

That or the chance a team like Houston or Cleveland makes a major move that adds to their top 10 superstar and they make a crazy 180 degree jump to true contender.

frizzledizzle · Post #20 » by **frizzledizzle** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:03 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:There isn't a team in the Eastern Conference that can take Miami past 5 games.

There's only 2 in the NBA that can beat them at all, one is San An and the other is Denver if they went super white hot from 3 and forced a gazillion turnovers on some flukey ****, but the problem with that is Denver isn't a real contender at all really so has almost no chance to even get to the Finals and then you're asking the vastly inferior team with no true star go to scorer to beat Miami at their own game.

OKC doesn't stand a chance in Hell, neither do the Clippers. Memphis is one of those teams that on paper everyone says can but they're missing that superstar wing or point guard so they're out.

The Lakers kind of sort of would if they somehow came out of the West, but it's more off on paper name hype even if the hype was real enough in function to get them there by way of 3 upsets.

This Miami team is the all time juggernaut we said it was when they formed in 2010 for the most part. Maybe not as invincible as we thought they would be, but damn close. Right now there's really only one team that can challenge them and that team is rife with older players playing way above their current heads for the most part.

It's going to take OKC or the Lakers either growing from within and/or making a huge move on draft night, or Us, or the Bulls, or the Clippers, or the Nuggets, or the Pacers to make a MAJOR move and shakeup for anyone to beat them over the next 3 seasons including this one.

That or the chance a team like Houston or Cleveland makes a major move that adds to their top 10 superstar and they make a crazy 180 degree jump to true contender.

I disagree with pretty much everything you said.

There are a couple of teams in the east that can take the Heat past 5.

And the Thunder have as good of chance as anyone to beat the Heat.

Teams like the Thunder and Pacers are really young. Durant, Westbrook and Ibaka are all 23 years old and the Pacers starting line up this season is 22, 22, 26, 26 and 32 years old so that alone leaves room for improvement. Plus the Pacers have been playing without what most people would consider their best player over the past half decade or so. If he's back for the playoffs, they acquire him for nothing and he averages 18-5-3. They were already up two games to one on the Heat last season in the playoffs and beat the Heat three times in a row during the regular season until the Heat beat them the other night. That's one game during the regular season though. Even the Wizards beat the Heat and the Bobcats beat the Pacers. It will be completely different come playoff time.