Raptors Official 2013 Offseason Transaction Idea Thread

[TheFreshPrince]

Would anyone here do this?

To Toronto: Amare Stoudamire + NYK 2013 2nd RD Pick
To New York: Andrea Bargnani + Landry Fields + Aaron Gray

I think Amare could be good in a athletic lineup like ours.

Lowry / PG
Derozan / Ross
Gay / SF (3 point shooter)
Stoudamire / Amir / Acy
Val / C

I would. Even though Amare has a MASSIVE contract, it would be worth it for us in the long run. In 2014/15 we would have almost 43 million coming off our cap in Rudy and Amare's deals. I would even beef things up a bit and keep Fields, and ask for a 1st rounder instead. That way, we have over 50 million coming off the books in one offseason alone. The worst case is that we deal those massive expirings for disgruntled stars in one year instead of waiting 2, similar to the Calderon/Gay deal.

[Ice102]

I used to support BC as our GM for a long time but I think I've come around to realizing that a change is definitely needed now. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and my patience with the Rudy deal but it's time for a change.

-Fire Colangelo.
-Sign Flip Saunders as our GM before Minnesota can.
-Let Saunders know that we are interested in getting a top pick in the 2014 draft, clearing the house of Rudy, Lowry, Bargnani and Fields (if possible). Try to package DeRozan out of here as well if a good deal presents itself. Package Ross with one of the above. Dangle a 2015 1st rd. pick if we can get a valuable player back (similar to what HOU did with the Harden deal) and go from there.

It's amazing at how the last couple weeks have completely turned this team's fortunes around.

[Lord_Zedd]

Would anyone here do this?

To Toronto: Amare Stoudamire + NYK 2013 2nd RD Pick
To New York: Andrea Bargnani + Landry Fields + Aaron Gray

I think Amare could be good in a athletic lineup like ours.

Lowry / PG
Derozan / Ross
Gay / SF (3 point shooter)
Stoudamire / Amir / Acy
Val / C

I can't believe I would actually entertain this idea now. The concerns are obviously the knee injuries and uninsured contract. His recent knee surgery was the same knee that he blew out years ago. If you said this last October/November I'd burn you at a stake witchcraft style .

[Rapsobsessed7]

Would anyone here do this?

To Toronto: Amare Stoudamire + NYK 2013 2nd RD Pick
To New York: Andrea Bargnani + Landry Fields + Aaron Gray

I think Amare could be good in a athletic lineup like ours.

Lowry / PG
Derozan / Ross
Gay / SF (3 point shooter)
Stoudamire / Amir / Acy
Val / C

I can't believe I would actually entertain this idea now. The concerns are obviously the knee injuries and uninsured contract. His recent knee surgery was the same knee that he blew out years ago. If you said this last October/November I'd burn you at a stake witchcraft style .

i would have as well haha. I just think Amare would look pretty good in our style of offense. I also want a trade where we send Fields so we can get some 3 point shooting in our lineup behind Rudy.

my other offer would be.

To Toronto: Carlos Boozer + Richard Hamilton (waived)
To Chicago: Andrea Bargnani + Landry Fields + Future 2nd Round Pick

as ive stated before.

[Marvin Martian]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=adqd4do

I think we can do a Derozan for Matthews straight up next year with some added incentives.

This is a great deal for both sides. POR gets their SG of the future, while we get a great 2 way SG that can shoot the basketball and make plays.

[SDM]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=adqd4do

I think we can do a Derozan for Matthews straight up next year with some added incentives.

This is a great deal for both sides. POR gets their SG of the future, while we get a great 2 way SG that can shoot the basketball and make plays.

Sold. I'd love to move DD and land Hayward or Matthews.

[LApwnd]

Bargnani and Fields to the Lakers for Gasol.
Gasol and Howard won't work together in D'Antoni's system. If Bargnani remembers how to play basketball, he might be a good fit there with his ability to stretch the floor. The Italian thing with Kobe and D'Antoni can't hurt. Fields excelled in D'Antoni's system before as well.

no chance in hell this happens

[Rapsfan07]

I've been down for DD for Matthews. It's a great swap because Portland needs youth and we're trying to compete. Matthews fits much better along side Gay as DD fits better along side Batum.

I'd happily do DD for Matthews + filler (late 1st rd pick or prospect) and Bargnani keeps playing this way, I'd look to move him to ATL for two late firsts straight up (I'd settle with one, ATL will need a PF after losing Smith in FA) or Phoenix for some pick also.

Use a first round pick to offload Fields. Use the other(s) to draft Otto Porter and/or Trey Burke. Make a run at Millsap/Jefferson then call Washington about Okafor

Lowry
Matthews
Gay
Millsap or Jefferson
Oak or Nene

that team should be a high seed in the east

[Sterling_Archer]

^^^ that looks like a solid team however Val maybe good enough and strong enough to be the starting C. That team has a good contingent of two way players that can shoot from outside, score in the paint. This however is something very u likely to happen,

[TheAlchemist]

Bargnani and Fields to the Lakers for Gasol.
Gasol and Howard won't work together in D'Antoni's system. If Bargnani remembers how to play basketball, he might be a good fit there with his ability to stretch the floor. The Italian thing with Kobe and D'Antoni can't hurt. Fields excelled in D'Antoni's system before as well.

no chance in hell this happens

lol! God bless Laker fans.

[Rapsfan07]

^^^ that looks like a solid team however Val maybe good enough and strong enough to be the starting C. That team has a good contingent of two way players that can shoot from outside, score in the paint. This however is something very u likely to happen,

I don't about Val being ready to be the starter as yet, however if he is, that's even better. We could just sign at guy like Pachulia to come in and back him up if so.

But I like Oak and he's a good expiring deal next year when we'll need to resign Lowry. Plus I think he'd be a great vet for Val to learn from. As for the nuts and bolts of how this would work, it's a little complicated and you're right.. Very unlikely. It would all really depend on how much we can get back for Bargnani and DeRozan. DD is young and would fit size wise and age wise with what Portland is trying to do so I wouldn't be too worries there. The biggest thing is Bargnani's value. ATL will be in a position of disadvantage come the offseason so I hope that combined with Bargs playing better can land us picks. Obviously the more picks the better since I would love to offload Fields

[Loso04]

we wasted the 2nd rounder on Telfair, and should have went after maynor instead smh

[Ice102]

If BC is still here this offseason and we're not tanking:

Trade:

-Ross and Kleiza and Cash for Redick (S&T for about 9 mill.) - MIL gets something for the departing Redick, who won't want to resign and play in MIL.

Sign:

-MLE on Korver (all of it)

Val/Bargnani
Amir/Acy
Gay/Korver/Fields
DeRozan/Redick
Lowry/Lucas

If we can't get Smith or Milsap, then this is the best bet I think.

[Sterling_Archer]

Defenitly add outside scoring which we need however I really think we need to add a low post scoring presence as well. If we could add something like that as well that would be ideal.

[Zarko]

If BC is still here this offseason and we're not tanking:

Trade:

-Ross and Kleiza and Cash for Redick (S&T for about 9 mill.) - MIL gets something for the departing Redick, who won't want to resign and play in MIL.

Sign:

-MLE on Korver (all of it)

Val/Bargnani
Amir/Acy
Gay/Korver/Fields
DeRozan/Redick
Lowry/Lucas

If we can't get Smith or Milsap, then this is the best bet I think.

A few things

#1: You want to spend the full MLE on Korver who behind Gay would be lucky to play 15mpg?
#2 Then you want to acquire Redick for the same amount as were paying Demar to play maybe 15mpg while giving up Ross to get him?
#3 That is one awful front court. Really?

[Ice102]

If BC is still here this offseason and we're not tanking:

Trade:

-Ross and Kleiza and Cash for Redick (S&T for about 9 mill.) - MIL gets something for the departing Redick, who won't want to resign and play in MIL.

Sign:

-MLE on Korver (all of it)

Val/Bargnani
Amir/Acy
Gay/Korver/Fields
DeRozan/Redick
Lowry/Lucas

If we can't get Smith or Milsap, then this is the best bet I think.

A few things

#1: You want to spend the full MLE on Korver who behind Gay would be lucky to play 15mpg?
#2 Then you want to acquire Redick for the same amount as were paying Demar to play maybe 15mpg while giving up Ross to get him?
#3 That is one awful front court. Really?

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. It's not the best front court, I agree. I would try to deal Bargnani as well for some front court help (maybe revisit the Boozer deal if we can afford it under the tax), but I think Acy can take another step and Val can advance his game to another level.

Remember, this is assuming we're trying to make a run at the playoffs next year with this core. Not where I'd like to be, to be honest, but just playing with the cards we've been dealt here.

[Rapsfan07]

Hell no to moving Ross + Kleiza for Reddick. That makes no sense. Ross is younger and has the greater potential in a league short on the SG position. I'd rather keep Ross and move DeRozan for a pick(s) and a vet like Matthews who can score, defend and hit the 3. In the meantime, develop Ross.

[Camboflage]

Hell no to moving Ross + Kleiza for Reddick. That makes no sense. Ross is younger and has the greater potential in a league short on the SG position. I'd rather keep Ross and move DeRozan for a pick(s) and a vet like Matthews who can score, defend and hit the 3. In the meantime, develop Ross.

WHERE IS THIS POTENTIAL THOUGH, WHERE DO YOU SEE HIS GAME EVOLVING? HE IS 22, and nowhere near Demar at that age.

What does he bring to the table? Athleticism? Flashy dunks? Do we want to win at all? Trade him if the opportunity presents itself. I'm not giving up on Ross by any means, but he is no Jonas and doesn't possess the "untradable" rule to me personally. I see someone who hits the gym with AA, and is too caught up in making highlights than bringing any other contribution. His minutes are down for a reason, the least he can do is do it on the defensive end. I'm sold on a guy who jumps at shooters and gives them 4 point plays, and feels the need to shoot every time he gets a touch instead of attacking the rim or swinging the damn ball. Might not even reach Mo-Pete stature.

[Rapsobsessed7]

Here's a couple of offers without Ross in them

1. Bargnani + Kleiza + Acy for Gasol

We get a post player/expiring.

Lakers (assuming Howard stays) get a good compliment for him

2. Bargnani + Fields + 2nd for Boozer + Hamilton

We save 700k this year, 950k the year after that.

Chicago if they waived Hamilton would owe him 1 million anyway. They get a starting SG while only adding 700k. If they waived Hamilton and signed a minimum guy it would cost over 800k

3. Bargnani + Gray for Boozer + 2nd

If Chicago insists on not taking Fields to save 5 million in 2014/2015 I would offer this.

Toronto would add 1.9 million next year and 5.3 in 2014/2015. I would hope we could move Fields before that for a expiring.

Chicago saves more money in this deal

[Ice102]

Hell no to moving Ross + Kleiza for Reddick. That makes no sense. Ross is younger and has the greater potential in a league short on the SG position. I'd rather keep Ross and move DeRozan for a pick(s) and a vet like Matthews who can score, defend and hit the 3. In the meantime, develop Ross.

Makes no sense?

Really?

Ross is younger than Redick but nowhere near the player J.J is right now (and will be for the next several years). Ross is 22 and even though I like his potential, his basketball i.q is lacking, he doesn't drive to the net (never has), and his shot is mediocre at the moment. He has the tools but that doesn't always translate to the results.

We have Rudy (26), Lowry (26), DeRozan (23), Amir (25) and an ownership wanting to win. Val looks to be developing nicely and should be able to contribute more next season and be a presence inside. Redick gives us something we need: 3-point scoring.

So, ya, it makes perfect sense.