Kareem

Goldtop · Post #1 » by **Goldtop** » Tue Mar 5, 2013 11:55 pm

He says he would coach the Bucks. I'd be interested in him coaching here. I'd love to see what he could do with Dre and Moose.

Blkbrd671 · Post #2 » by **Blkbrd671** » Tue Mar 5, 2013 11:59 pm

Goldtop wrote:He says he would coach the Bucks. I'd be interested in him coaching here. I'd love to see what he could do with Dre and Moose.

last thing we need is another unproven coach.

Goldtop · Post #3 » by **Goldtop** » Wed Mar 6, 2013 12:03 am

Blkbrd671 wrote:
Goldtop wrote:He says he would coach the Bucks. I'd be interested in him coaching here. I'd love to see what he could do with Dre and Moose.

last thing we need is another unproven coach.

agreed , but I'd make an exception for an all-time great. Worst case scenario he fails as a game coach and gets replaced in a few years, but Dre and Moose get 2 yrs learning from the best big man ever.

Blkbrd671 · Post #4 » by **Blkbrd671** » Wed Mar 6, 2013 12:41 am

Goldtop wrote:
agreed , but I'd make an exception for an all-time great. Worst case scenario he fails as a game coach and gets replaced in a few years, but Dre and Moose get 2 yrs learning from the best big man ever.

i get your train of thought, but i'm of the belief that just because your a great big man, doesn't make you a great big man coach. Like i don't think shaq could really teach anyone anything. A guy like Tim Duncan i think could.

Goldtop · Post #5 » by **Goldtop** » Wed Mar 6, 2013 12:47 am

Blkbrd671 wrote:
Goldtop wrote:
agreed , but I'd make an exception for an all-time great. Worst case scenario he fails as a game coach and gets replaced in a few years, but Dre and Moose get 2 yrs learning from the best big man ever.

i get your train of thought, but i'm of the belief that just because your a great big man, doesn't make you a great big man coach. Like i don't think shaq could really teach anyone anything. A guy like Tim Duncan i think could.

Kareem is a proven great big man coach though, having developed Bynum. Coaching a whole team is another story, but he would at the least be an invaluable teacher for our bigs.

Blkbrd671 · Post #6 » by **Blkbrd671** » Wed Mar 6, 2013 1:06 am

Goldtop wrote:
Kareem is a proven great big man coach though, having developed Bynum. Coaching a whole team is another story, but he would at the least be an invaluable teacher for our bigs.

i thought it was hakeem that tought bynum or maybe that was kobe. idk, if he's a proven big man coach, i'd love to bring him in as a assistant.

Pugz · Post #7 » by **Pugz** » Wed Mar 6, 2013 3:16 am

bynum gave all the credit to kareem for his progression and then told kareem to kick rocks when he felt he was done needing a coach.

a team coach idk, but if we could get dre and moose with him for a few summers(mainly dre) then id be ecstatic.

Post #8 » by **Snakebites** » Wed Mar 6, 2013 3:23 am

I dunno.

I always got the impression he was a very quiet guy that people had a hard time relating to, and I never really got the impression he was a vocal leader on the teams he played on.

I'm not sure he's head coaching material.

Warspite · Post #9 » by **Warspite** » Wed Mar 6, 2013 6:30 am

Had the chance to meet him and passed on it because he was a total a hole.

I was at the allstar game brunch with about 200 HOFers and I would guess that 100 of them were excited and honored that I knew there name while true greats like Russell, Oscar (talked to him for 15mins) Magic and DrJ were in total PR mode and knew how to work the room. Yet in the corner was this bitter old man who looked like he was there for jury duty or a court ordered all day driver improvement class. Instead of a celebratan and being happy for Russell having the Finals MVP named after him he acted like he had just lost his dog. I was going to go up and talk to him anyway but he gave a cold dirty look and I concluded hes not worth it and moved on to talk to several other players while KAJ sat alone in the corner.

KAJ wants to coach in the NBA badly but hes not willing to be an assistant and rise through the ranks.

ElectricMayhem · Post #10 » by **ElectricMayhem** » Wed Mar 6, 2013 7:09 am

I remember reading an article years and years back about how he was annoyed that he hadn't gotten any major acting roles after his "work" in Airplane! He's had the same attitude toward coaching, where he thinks it should just be gifted to him. Maybe he knows a lot about basketball, but I don't think he has enough common sense to thrive as a coach.

As far as big men coaches go, I'm perfectly happy with the work Roy Rogers has done for us.

Blkbrd671 · Post #11 » by **Blkbrd671** » Wed Mar 6, 2013 9:59 am

Warspite wrote:Had the chance to meet him and passed on it because he was a total a hole.

I was at the allstar game brunch with about 200 HOFers and I would guess that 100 of them were excited and honored that I knew there name while true greats like Russell, Oscar (talked to him for 15mins) Magic and DrJ were in total PR mode and knew how to work the room. Yet in the corner was this bitter old man who looked like he was there for jury duty or a court ordered all day driver improvement class. Instead of a celebratan and being happy for Russell having the Finals MVP named after him he acted like he had just lost his dog. I was going to go up and talk to him anyway but he gave a cold dirty look and I concluded hes not worth it and moved on to talk to several other players while KAJ sat alone in the corner.

KAJ wants to coach in the NBA badly but hes not willing to be an assistant and rise through the ranks.

damn, how did you get into that brunch? Joe D is that you!?

Blkbrd671 · Post #12 » by **Blkbrd671** » Wed Mar 6, 2013 10:00 am

ElectricMayhem wrote:I remember reading an article years and years back about how he was annoyed that he hadn't gotten any major acting roles after his "work" in Airplane! He's had the same attitude toward coaching, where he thinks it should just be gifted to him. Maybe he knows a lot about basketball, but I don't think he has enough common sense to thrive as a coach.

As far as big men coaches go, I'm perfectly happy with the work Roy Rogers has done for us.

i am actually very happy with Roy Rogers, however i don't think there'd be anything wrong with bringing in Hakeem for a week or so to help.

Sheeeeed · Post #13 » by **Sheeeeed** » Wed Mar 6, 2013 10:43 am

Blkbrd671 wrote:
ElectricMayhem wrote:I remember reading an article years and years back about how he was annoyed that he hadn't gotten any major acting roles after his "work" in Airplane! He's had the same attitude toward coaching, where he thinks it should just be gifted to him. Maybe he knows a lot about basketball, but I don't think he has enough common sense to thrive as a coach.

As far as big men coaches go, I'm perfectly happy with the work Roy Rogers has done for us.

i am actually very happy with Roy Rogers, however i don't think there'd be anything wrong with bringing in Hakeem for a week or so to help.

That's not what Hakeem does though. If the Pistons wanted Drummond or Monroe to work with The Dream it would have to come out of their own pockets, and they probably can't afford to work with him until they get their 2nd contracts. It cost Stoudemire $100k for just 2 weeks work with him.

As for Kareem and his bitterness, wasn't he butthurt over not having a statue in front of the Staples Center awhile back? :lol:

Post #14 » by **Snakebites** » Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:07 pm

Yeah, he was mad that Magic, Chick Hearn, and Jerry West all got statues before him.

To add onto that he was mad that he got no support from them with respect to his interest in being a coach, and he's still bitter about a time 15 years ago when he had to sit in a normal sized seat on the Lakers plane.

engelbert321 · Post #15 » by **engelbert321** » Wed Mar 6, 2013 4:38 pm

Snakebites wrote:Yeah, he was mad that Magic, Chick Hearn, and Jerry West all got statues before him.

To add onto that he was mad that he got no support from them with respect to his interest in being a coach, and he's still bitter about a time 15 years ago when he had to sit in a normal sized seat on the Lakers plane.

Kareem should be mad. Dude's a legend.

Goldtop · Post #16 » by **Goldtop** » Wed Mar 6, 2013 4:38 pm

idk, that all sounds like a bunch of petty stuff to me. I don't see what any of that has to do with him being a good coach or not.

You could say the same things about Laimbeer, who most ppl here want, despite him refusing to take an assistants job for many years too.

I'm not saying Kareem would be my first choice, but he's one of the few inexperienced guys along with Laimbeer who I'd be ok with hiring, if we were to go with another first time coach.

Post #17 » by **Snakebites** » Wed Mar 6, 2013 4:44 pm

^I think the stuff about him being quiet, unrelatable, and unvocal might point to him not being coaching material.

Guy is an all time great and has been retired for nearly 25 years. If he's interested and hasn't gotten a nod yet there's probably a reason.

DetroitDon15 · Post #18 » by **DetroitDon15** » Wed Mar 6, 2013 6:35 pm

Last thing this team needs is another player turned coach with no head coach experience. I think Michael Curry showed us what happens when a team decides to do that. The Pistons, if a change is made, need a proven guy who can get these motivated. The Pistons need a guy who commands respect. I'd love to have Stan Van Gundy (did wonders for Dwight despite what Dwight might say) or Jerry Sloan (if he wants to coach again).

MrBigShot · Post #19 » by **MrBigShot** » Wed Mar 6, 2013 9:25 pm

Kareem is an amazing player that seems to never get his due. Not sure why.

I feel like he would do wonders as a bigman coach, but I'm not sure he's head-coaching material either. Strategy, rotation and being vocal are the types of aspects I'm not sure he is proficient in.

Warspite · Post #20 » by **Warspite** » Wed Mar 6, 2013 10:11 pm

KAJ just is a differant person from a differant time that is so long removed that we just cant understand. Instead of concluding that most people dont care about your skin color or religion he goes with the assumption that everyone is a member of the KKK (regardless of there own skin color) and everyone wants to murder muslims and burn mosques (ignoring that 99% of muslims killed and mosques burned are from other muslims) and that its up to you to prove your not a racist islamaphobe.