Washington @ Minnesota 3/6/2013 - 8:00

queridiculo · Post #141 » by **queridiculo** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 3:32 am

Price had 3 turnovers to 0 assists in 20 minutes, not sure how we'd expect him to do any better running this offense.

nuposse04 · Post #142 » by **nuposse04** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 3:33 am

Losing to the wolves is pretty bad. That was just a whirlwind of suck. Nene pretty much cost us the game. I thought Wall got fouled on that spin move at the end of the game, w/e I guess, more ping pong balls for us.

Rubio's handles are great, but his shot is terrible.

Post #143 » by **nate33** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 3:33 am

Ruzious wrote:I think the loss can be easily explained in 6 letters. We suck.

No. We don't suck. Minnesota sucks. They're missing 4 out of the 5 guys that started for them this year. They don't even have a small forward. Hell, I've never even heard of about half the guys that got minutes tonight. We just got beat by Rubio, Ridnoir, Barea, D.Williams and Dante Cunningham.

We have way more talent than them right now. We lost because of lack of execution, and because of absolutely horrible play by Nene throughout, and by Wall in the 2nd half.

TheKingOfVa360 · Post #144 » by **TheKingOfVa360** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 3:34 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Ricky Rubio, whose draft rights were traded away by EG for one year of Foye and Miller, is a better basketball player than John Wall.

Wall is very athletic but Ricky plays better and smarter basketball.

Rubio is not a better player than Wall. Rubio can't shoot a lick. He just had his best game of the year

nuposse04 · Post #145 » by **nuposse04** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 3:34 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Ricky Rubio, whose draft rights were traded away by EG for one year of Foye and Miller, is a better basketball player than John Wall.

Wall is very athletic but Ricky plays better and smarter basketball.

He's better in the game management department, but that's about it. His defense is actually better then I thought, but then again, we really have no one to defend against.

MikeTheKid · Post #146 » by **MikeTheKid** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 3:36 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Ricky Rubio, whose draft rights were traded away by EG for one year of Foye and Miller, is a better basketball player than John Wall.

Wall is very athletic but Ricky plays better and smarter basketball.

This x100

nuposse04 · Post #147 » by **nuposse04** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 3:37 am

The only people who shot decently tonight were Okafor, Wall, and Seraphin...we had no shot.

Losing games like this is a mark of an unprofessional team. If you can't get yourself up to play decimated teams that are lacking talent across the board then the players have some growing up to do. That and the coaches do a **** job of lighting a fire under their asses. Nene should have been benched this game. Randy deserves some blame here.

MikeTheKid · Post #148 » by **MikeTheKid** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 3:37 am

If the Bulls dont bring back Belinelli can we sign him to be our 6th man? He can create his own shot and shoot the 3. Could be a cheap help for the bench

Illmatic21 · Post #149 » by **Illmatic21** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 3:39 am

nuposse04 wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Ricky Rubio, whose draft rights were traded away by EG for one year of Foye and Miller, is a better basketball player than John Wall.

Wall is very athletic but Ricky plays better and smarter basketball.

He's better in the game management department, but that's about it. His defense is actually better then I thought, but then again, we really have no one to defend against.

Uhh, game management is a pretty big part of being a PG. And he's not just "better" than Wall in that department, there is cavernous gaping chasm between them.

Post #150 » by **nate33** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 3:40 am

Rubio outplayed Wall tonight, but I'm not ready to say he's a better basketball player. They're really very similar statistically. Both shoot the ball terribly and are turnover prone. At least Rubio manages to shoot a little less often and he gets more steals. Interestingly, Rubio actually averages more free throw attempts.

Post #151 » by **nate33** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 3:42 am

nuposse04 wrote:The only people who shot decently tonight were Okafor, Wall, and Seraphin...we had no shot.

Losing games like this is a mark of an unprofessional team. If you can't get yourself up to play decimated teams that are lacking talent across the board then the players have some growing up to do. That and the coaches do a **** job of lighting a fire under their asses. Nene should have been benched this game. Randy deserves some blame here.

Easier said than done. If you bench Nene, who plays? The rest of our bigs don't even belong on the court. If we had Beal, maybe we could have gone small ball with Ariza at the 4, but Ariza was too busy playing the 2.

nuposse04 · Post #152 » by **nuposse04** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 3:44 am

Illmatic21 wrote:
nuposse04 wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Ricky Rubio, whose draft rights were traded away by EG for one year of Foye and Miller, is a better basketball player than John Wall.

Wall is very athletic but Ricky plays better and smarter basketball.

He's better in the game management department, but that's about it. His defense is actually better then I thought, but then again, we really have no one to defend against.

Uhh, game management is a pretty big part of being a PG. And he's not just "better" than Wall in that department, there is cavernous gaping chasm between them.

He basically has fewer tunovers a game, is what I mean, outside of that I see no reason to anoint him as better yet. Although Wall needs to fix this issue. Part of the problem is that our team's BB iq doesn't seem that high outside of like...Beal, Nene, and Webster. Everyone on this team has unfortunate moments of spazzing out.

Wizardspride · Post #153 » by **Wizardspride** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 3:44 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Ricky Rubio, whose draft rights were traded away by EG for one year of Foye and Miller, is a better basketball player than John Wall.

Not to defend EG but Dan Fagen (Rubio and Gil's agent) made it emphatically clear that Rubio would not play for the Wiz.

That little tidbit doesn't seem to be mentioned enough when Rubio is brought up.

DANNYLANDOVER · Post #154 » by **DANNYLANDOVER** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 3:45 am

It's easy to make John the scape goat for this game, but honestly, Randy Wittless and his team needs to apologize to the fans for that embarrassing performance with absolutely no heart shown or desire to win the game. WTF was that shot by Ariza for?...with 11 secs on the shot clock smh.

nuposse04 · Post #155 » by **nuposse04** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 3:47 am

nate33 wrote:
nuposse04 wrote:The only people who shot decently tonight were Okafor, Wall, and Seraphin...we had no shot.

Losing games like this is a mark of an unprofessional team. If you can't get yourself up to play decimated teams that are lacking talent across the board then the players have some growing up to do. That and the coaches do a **** job of lighting a fire under their asses. Nene should have been benched this game. Randy deserves some blame here.

Easier said than done. If you bench Nene, who plays? The rest of our bigs don't even belong on the court. If we had Beal, maybe we could have gone small ball with Ariza at the 4, but Ariza was too busy playing the 2.

Randy did something odd, he systematically when through all our "bigs" on the bench to find someone who could give relevant minutes. Booker was like -6 while on the court, Vesely...was Vesely. Seraphin had a foul issue but he wasn't the reason we lost. I'm surprised Singleton got no time, he hat least could have been better defensively then Nene, Nene is fast enough to cover the likes of Cunningham and Williams. Randy likes to play big but that'd only make sense of our Bigs could actually dominate.

hands11 · Post #156 » by **hands11** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 3:52 am

sfam wrote:I put a lot of this on coaching. You gotta think Wittman realized his players were doing the equivalent of passing around a girlie magazine in terms of concentrating on the game. He should have taken a few more time outs to get in their grill to pay attention. They clearly were somewhere else, for like the last 7 minutes.

I blame a lot of that on Randy. Not all of it, but he didn't coach well.

No Energy Early - I'm watching this saying to myself. Run a press. Get a T. Do something.

To slow to adjust - Rick and JJ were just quick and trapping and running around the back of post players to pop the ball out. Them combined was to much for Wall or Price by themselves. Specially after Wall J went cold. I thought, he needed to put Wall and Price out there together. Wall shot had gone cold and two ball handlers could react to Ricky and JJs jumping everything. Then he did it. We went up like 10 pts. Then Wall went out. Then Wall replaced Price. I never saw Wall and Price together again. And you could see it was so needed down the stretch. Randy never adjusted.

The going to Kevin S move was smart. Kevin S was to big and quick for him and they needed his scoring. But Randy went with Nene an Okafor down the stretch.

It was like a group of quick HS kids going against the 40 and over crowd.

Wall, Webster, Trevor A, Nene and Okafor. Just not enough handles or team quickness. Against LAL, that would have worked. Against a younger Minny team. That was just stupid. Specially when at one point you actually adjusted and got results. To ignore that is :roll:

Either that was part of a masterful strategic tank or Randy is pretty clueless when it comes to game time adjustment whenever his line ups change on him.

Had Beal been in there, it would have looked totally different. Had to go with Wall and Price. Randy. Wake up.

hands11 · Post #157 » by **hands11** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 3:53 am

Wizardspride wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Ricky Rubio, whose draft rights were traded away by EG for one year of Foye and Miller, is a better basketball player than John Wall.

Not to defend EG but Dan Fagen (Rubio and Gil's agent) made it emphatically clear that Rubio would not play for the Wiz.

That little tidbit doesn't seem to be mentioned enough when Rubio is brought up.

Thats right. I do remember that. What a douche.

truwizfan4evr · Post #158 » by **truwizfan4evr** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 3:55 am

The tank at its best!

hands11 · Post #159 » by **hands11** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 4:00 am

nate33 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:I think the loss can be easily explained in 6 letters. We suck.

No. We don't suck. Minnesota sucks. They're missing 4 out of the 5 guys that started for them this year. They don't even have a small forward. Hell, I've never even heard of about half the guys that got minutes tonight. We just got beat by Rubio, Ridnoir, Barea, D.Williams and Dante Cunningham.

We have way more talent than them right now. We lost because of lack of execution, and because of absolutely horrible play by Nene throughout, and by Wall in the 2nd half.

Ouch.

But I'm not really upset because I expect that give the line up that was in there. I watch the same thing the previous 3-4 plays. Line up was the same. I expected the same. Besides, the long short playoff thing was over already.

Beal out. Got a nice L. What was Flips saying about nuts ? Yeah. That what we did.

I predicted we lose this on and Brooklyn so no biggy. Beal will be back for the Cats game at home. That will be the next win.

Post #160 » by **nate33** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 4:01 am

hands11 wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Ricky Rubio, whose draft rights were traded away by EG for one year of Foye and Miller, is a better basketball player than John Wall.

Not to defend EG but Dan Fagen (Rubio and Gil's agent) made it emphatically clear that Rubio would not play for the Wiz.

That little tidbit doesn't seem to be mentioned enough when Rubio is brought up.

Thats right. I do remember that. What a douche.

He didn't want to play on a team with Arenas. He wanted a shot at starting PG. As a star Euro player, he had the leverage to say that. I can't say that I blame him.

It doesn't really matter. We probably would have taken Curry anyhow.