Deron Williams out until post All-Star break

[N Ireland Nets]

^^Yeah, seriously.

Does anyone know how long the usual recovery time is for ankle surgery? (And I'm assuming he needs surgery on both ankles now?...sigh)

I had bone spurs removed and my ankle basically cleaned out. Took me 16 weeks to fully recover from surgery to fully playing 100% in games.

So if he gets ankle surgery in June ( ), he should be ready for training camp.

I'm not sure how much damage he has in his ankle's but I'd say movement etc is very important in Basketball. I needed movement and my ankle to be able to deal with the impact of the ball and studs on it while maintaining it's strength.

If D Will had the surgery at the start of the season for his wrist and ankle's I'd say he'd have been back in time for the playoffs. Problem is with it being Brooklyn's 1st season and opening with the Knicks etc the Nets couldn't let D Will miss the start of the season, would've been a huge pr disaster.

Maybe the Nets told him they would like him to play through it??

[MGrand15]

No reason to shut him down unless there's an actual risk of him making it worse. He isn't Derrick Rose or a John Wall. He's 28 and on a team built to win now. Wasting this season by running CJ Watson in the playoffs isn't something I'd be happy about. He can rest/get surgery in the off-season like he planned to when he played through this stupid injury in the Olympics.

He's had this since the beginning of the year so to pick the final stretch of the season to shut him down would be silly.

[PetroNet]

No reason to shut him down unless there's an actual risk of him making it worse. He isn't Derrick Rose or a John Wall. He's 28 and on a team built to win now. Wasting this season by running CJ Watson in the playoffs isn't something I'd be happy about. He can rest/get surgery in the off-season like he planned to when he played through this stupid injury in the Olympics.

He's had this since the beginning of the year so to pick the final stretch of the season to shut him down would be silly.

having surgery now would get him back to 100%, or as close as he will get, all that much sooner. as far as "win now", we are locked into this team for the next 4-5 years, to say its win now with this group is silly. our best bet, or only bet to win with this group, is with a healthy dwill.

as far as this year, do we really get much further with dwill then we would without him? we dont beat good teams even when he plays

[pickIBL]

As a non-partisan bystander I'll tell you what I think. What we are talking about is a degenerative issue in both ankles. If his contract expired in a year or two I'd say throw him out there. But doesn't it go til 2017 where you'll owe him 22 million that year?

Seriously... don't throw him out there too early. I'd wait til April if I had to. Just run him out there and show he can play well enough so you can try and move him this summer.

It is the length and money owed that would freak me out. Collecting the insurance is hardly every that simple. Because more often than not it is a matter of a player missing more and more time... and sucking more and more. It'd be a long slow painful road to collecting the insurance.

[Paradise]

What's sad is, the media and fans are the cause IMO of these type of injury situations.

If he opted to get this fixed at the beginning of the season once he realized he was injured: "Oh Deron is being a little biatch. Suck it up and play through it. It's the first season in New York!"

Now, he plays through it: "He's garbage now. Should have never signed him. Should have gotten it fixed. Fix it so we can trade him!!!"

I'd really wish this franchise will eventually start to give the middle finger to the media and the fans instead of trying to please people who should never be pleased at all.

Now, we are in a position where we will probably get a Top 3 spot in the East with him but at what cost long term? If let's say, we make it to the ECF which is in May. That's MORE months of damage and extensive pain to his ankles.

If we do not make it near the ECF and it helps his health = Deron sucks and is the new Carmelo.

^^Yeah, seriously.

Does anyone know how long the usual recovery time is for ankle surgery? (And I'm assuming he needs surgery on both ankles now?...sigh)

2-4 months which is basically the bulk of the off-season. But it would be hilarious if we ended up playing until June which would be a gift and curse.

[MGrand15]

Don't blame the media or fans for Deron playing through a bad ankle for the Olympics (not necessary) and not getting the issue fixed during the off season like he should have. That's all on Deron.

And pickIBL, why are you talking about Deron's ankle like they're Brandon Roy knees? Degenerative? Insurance on his contract? By all accounts that I've read, this is just a clean up of the ankle, something that should've been done in the off-season and isn't a big deal.

[MrDollarBills]

I say let the fat slob get surgery, and ownership should demand that he be put on a strict diet.

Maybe then, he'll actually play up his contract. We're not beating Miami with or without him as is, so I see no reason to risk further damage. Get those ankles cleaned out

[NyCeEvO]

I don't think the weight is affecting him THAT much lol.

When we first heard reports of the issue at the start of the season, I suggested that they should shut him down because it seemed serious.

Now we're dealing with the consequences unfortunately.

[Paradise]

No reason to shut him down unless there's an actual risk of him making it worse. He isn't Derrick Rose or a John Wall. He's 28 and on a team built to win now. Wasting this season by running CJ Watson in the playoffs isn't something I'd be happy about. He can rest/get surgery in the off-season like he planned to when he played through this stupid injury in the Olympics.

He's had this since the beginning of the year so to pick the final stretch of the season to shut him down would be silly.

1. He's had made it worse all season long which is why he took this week off because it's getting too bad.

2. He isn't Rose/Wall is the worst reason to not sit him. He's still a superstar and the key to the team, the age of him doesn't not matter in comparison to health/value. The Clippers took their time with Paul's knee bone bruise and weathered that storm. Why can't we with him? Paul isn't 24 like Rose either.

If anything, sit him during back to backs against sub .500 teams. Let him play tonight, sit him tomorrow.

[yolopez]

I really don't think any amount of in-season rest is going to make a noticeable difference in his level of play, Deron is what he is this season, next season is another story though I'm starting to doubt Deron's ability to stay healthy :-/

[PetroNet]

No reason to shut him down unless there's an actual risk of him making it worse. He isn't Derrick Rose or a John Wall. He's 28 and on a team built to win now. Wasting this season by running CJ Watson in the playoffs isn't something I'd be happy about. He can rest/get surgery in the off-season like he planned to when he played through this stupid injury in the Olympics.

He's had this since the beginning of the year so to pick the final stretch of the season to shut him down would be silly.

1. He's had made it worse all season long which is why he took this week off because it's getting too bad.

2. He isn't Rose/Wall is the worst reason to not sit him. He's still a superstar and the key to the team, the age of him doesn't not matter in comparison to health/value. The Clippers took their time with Paul's knee bone bruise and weathered that storm. Why can't we with him? Paul isn't 24 like Rose either.

If anything, sit him during back to backs against sub .500 teams. Let him play tonight, sit him tomorrow.

dwill isnt the key to this team. lopez is and to a lesser extent getting consistent play from wallace and johnson. we can surely win without williams(or at least the slowed down version of williams),

i see no reason not to shut him down. we have 0 shot to win ti all this year, everyone knows he is injured, and it gets taylor some burn in the process.

he has what 4 years on his deal after this season? id rather maximize those then watch him hobble around in a first or second round loss

[AntwanBoldin]

So he lost some of the weight with a juicing diet

It'd be nice if someone in the organization has a backbone and said something in October but were getting there. Hopefully if his ankles ever heal he can dribble by people again.

[Paradise]

"We finally got the injections in the right spot, and they feel a little bit better. I can actually walk up and down stairs and run around with my kids. I can go to the playground with them. I don't have to hurt every time I take a single step. So, yeah, I feel a lot better. I can dunk."

He's scheduled for his next injections a few days before the playoffs begin.

No reason to shut him down unless there's an actual risk of him making it worse. He isn't Derrick Rose or a John Wall. He's 28 and on a team built to win now. Wasting this season by running CJ Watson in the playoffs isn't something I'd be happy about. He can rest/get surgery in the off-season like he planned to when he played through this stupid injury in the Olympics.

He's had this since the beginning of the year so to pick the final stretch of the season to shut him down would be silly.

1. He's had made it worse all season long which is why he took this week off because it's getting too bad.

2. He isn't Rose/Wall is the worst reason to not sit him. He's still a superstar and the key to the team, the age of him doesn't not matter in comparison to health/value. The Clippers took their time with Paul's knee bone bruise and weathered that storm. Why can't we with him? Paul isn't 24 like Rose either.

If anything, sit him during back to backs against sub .500 teams. Let him play tonight, sit him tomorrow.

dwill isnt the key to this team. lopez is and to a lesser extent getting consistent play from wallace and johnson. we can surely win without williams(or at least the slowed down version of williams),

i see no reason not to shut him down. we have 0 shot to win ti all this year, everyone knows he is injured, and it gets taylor some burn in the process.

he has what 4 years on his deal after this season? id rather maximize those then watch him hobble around in a first or second round loss

Wow.

[NyCeEvO]

It's good to hear that he can move around better. Now, there's little excuse for him if he has a bad game in the near future.

[MrDollarBills]

Good to see him losing weight, playing well, and getting some type of treatment on those ankles.

Next season, he should come into camp in the best shape of his life, and his ankles cleaned up and ready to go.

[jerseyjac]

So he lost some of the weight with a juicing diet

It'd be nice if someone in the organization has a backbone and said something in October but were getting there. Hopefully if his ankles ever heal he can dribble by people again.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baske ... -1.1280573

You know I was going to say he looked a little thinner, but I didn't want to jump gun...good for him, you gotta keep your body in check.

Honestly, it is just a start in the right direction, and with a small adjustment in diet I think combined with some time off he has showed some great results...keep it up man!

And I would not be surprised if he received injections again if necessary before the playoffs.

[NyCeEvO]

^^Yeah, he said that he's going to get some before the playoffs start:

The point guard revealed Friday that the cortisone shots Thursday were the third of such treatments since training camp started. He also plans to have another round of injections before the playoffs start.

via http://thebrooklyngame.com/deron-willia ... -counting/