Raptors Official 2013 Offseason Transaction Idea Thread

[Ice102]

Here's a couple of offers without Ross in them

1. Bargnani + Kleiza + Acy for Gasol

We get a post player/expiring.

Lakers (assuming Howard stays) get a good compliment for him

2. Bargnani + Fields + 2nd for Boozer + Hamilton

We save 700k this year, 950k the year after that.

Chicago if they waived Hamilton would owe him 1 million anyway. They get a starting SG while only adding 700k. If they waived Hamilton and signed a minimum guy it would cost over 800k

3. Bargnani + Gray for Boozer + 2nd

If Chicago insists on not taking Fields to save 5 million in 2014/2015 I would offer this.

Toronto would add 1.9 million next year and 5.3 in 2014/2015. I would hope we could move Fields before that for a expiring.

Chicago saves more money in this deal

None of those deals make us much better though. I'd do the Bargnani + Fields + 2nd for Boozer + Hamilton deal easily (and buy out Hamilton) and still make the other deals I mentioned above.

Our roster next year:

Val/Amir
Boozer/Amir/Acy
Gay/Korver
DeRozan/Redick
Lowry/Redick/Lucas

[DreamTeam09]

Here's a couple of offers without Ross in them

1. Bargnani + Kleiza + Acy for Gasol

We get a post player/expiring.

Lakers (assuming Howard stays) get a good compliment for him

2. Bargnani + Fields + 2nd for Boozer + Hamilton

We save 700k this year, 950k the year after that.

Chicago if they waived Hamilton would owe him 1 million anyway. They get a starting SG while only adding 700k. If they waived Hamilton and signed a minimum guy it would cost over 800k

3. Bargnani + Gray for Boozer + 2nd

If Chicago insists on not taking Fields to save 5 million in 2014/2015 I would offer this.

Toronto would add 1.9 million next year and 5.3 in 2014/2015. I would hope we could move Fields before that for a expiring.

Chicago saves more money in this deal

That is the direction I think we'll have to go down and i'd be happy with either options considering where we stand right now. I think the Boozer deal is more realistic and I think it'll be the deal were they don't take Fields.

Bargnani + Gray for Boozer + 2nd I can live with.

We'd have to follow up that move with an MLE signing of a back-up pg who can hit the 3 and play with lowry or move Fields for someone who can hit the 3. Unfortunately I don't think we can move fields untill after next season.

Jarrett Jack / Mo williams / Randy Foye / Jose Calderon / Bayless / Devin Harris : are the FA I would target for that back-up pg combo guard spot.

Then look to sign Sammy D / Cole Aldrich / Mozgov / B.Wright as a back up C

[kingcns187]

as per wiretap Hump no longer a part of Brooklyns rotation

Hump for Fields swap makes sense for both teams IMO

[bboyskinnylegs]

as per wiretap Hump no longer a part of Brooklyns rotation

Hump for Fields swap makes sense for both teams IMO

doesn't work salary-wise, Hump is making almost twice as much as Fields

[Lord_Zedd]

as per wiretap Hump no longer a part of Brooklyns rotation

Hump for Fields swap makes sense for both teams IMO

Have to throw in Kleiza to make it work. Personally, not a fan of Humphries. He wasn't the most popular teammate around here and, looks like he carried that same attitude to Dallas and Brooklyn too. Bad enough when a former teammate called Humphries a softie.

Only reason for me to do it is to knock off a year off salary

[TheFreshPrince]

After Kim K Hump is back to his old self.

[Spacing]

What about Scola? He still has game but he is not utilized correctly on the Suns.

I would do Bargnani for Scola+Brown

Both players are underutilized

[raps101]

How about:

Bargnani + Acy + future 1st rounder (2016) for Cousins + Thornton + 2nd rounder?

sac has been having alot of probs, specifically with cousons and it allows tyreke to do his thing again without so many ball dominant players (thornton, isaiah thomas, ferdette)

they get a low cost low risk pickup in acy and a first rounder, i would def look into this trade

[Marvin Martian]

How about:

Bargnani + Acy + future 1st rounder (2016) for Cousins + Thornton + 2nd rounder?

sac has been having alot of probs, specifically with cousons and it allows tyreke to do his thing again without so many ball dominant players (thornton, isaiah thomas, ferdette)

they get a low cost low risk pickup in acy and a first rounder, i would def look into this trade

Do people still think Bargs has positive value in the trade market?

[raps101]

How about:

Bargnani + Acy + future 1st rounder (2016) for Cousins + Thornton + 2nd rounder?

sac has been having alot of probs, specifically with cousons and it allows tyreke to do his thing again without so many ball dominant players (thornton, isaiah thomas, ferdette)

they get a low cost low risk pickup in acy and a first rounder, i would def look into this trade

Do people still think Bargs has positive value in the trade market?

Well he has about 20+ games to do just that, i mean c'mon ppl in the league obv know the dude can play.
Its only a matter of putting him in the right situation... But if bargs does show he has something left, this trade def seems like a possibility for both squads

And in that deal i think the 1st rounder would be the clincher in the trade, because sac has had a bunch of bone heads playing for their squad for the past 2-3 years, so draft picks is def something they would love to stack up on while getting someone like bargs who can step in and fill the void until the draft comes around again.

Just gotta get bargs some positive pub by seeing if he can still play, once that gets done if im BC i pull the trigger on a trade like this or something similar to it

[OAKLEY_2]

Do people still think Bargs has positive value in the trade market?

If BC was a little more proactive at draft time he would make a deal that sends Bargs/future first protected 2014 to Utah for Marvin Williams and one their two 2013 picks. That might net us Kabongo if he declares and shave a year off Bargs deal. Utah is likely losing both Milsap and Jefferson so a 27 year old recycled big playing with Kanter might good value in a lousy draft. Williams would replace a departing AA.

[Bowser61]

Demar Derozan to Utah for Millsap. (Sign and trade)

Ross, Fields, 2nd to Orlando for Affalo.

Amnesty Bargnani, Don't pick up Lucas option.

Resign Anderson cheap.

Then Sign Dunleavy(SF), Foye(PG) and Mack(PG)


Starters:
Lowry
Afflalo
Gay
Millsap
Valaciunas

Key bench players:
Dunleavy, Foye, Johnson.

[Rapsobsessed7]

Sources from both teams confirmed that the Sixers and the Hawks were close to a deal that would have sent Sixers Evan Turner and Spencer Hawes to the Hawks for forward Josh Smith.

http://mobile.philly.com/sports/sixers/ ... =195808251

[eitanr]

Demar Derozan to Utah for Millsap. (Sign and trade)

Ross, Fields, 2nd to Orlando for Affalo.

Amnesty Bargnani, Don't pick up Lucas option.

Resign Anderson cheap.

Then Sign Dunleavy(SF), Foye(PG) and Mack(PG)


Starters:
Lowry
Afflalo
Gay
Millsap
Valaciunas

Key bench players:
Dunleavy, Foye, Johnson.

Wow, I found a like minded person on this forum....Nice! I love Dunleavy JR, Millsap and Afflalo...really feel those would be good fits and that team would be a nice playoff contender.

My only concern is that we just stripped away a lot of assets in that deal, namely Ross and took back vets on likely long contracts. I think that team's ceiling maybe is a 4 seed or could sneak in the division, but doesn't have enough long term cap flexibility or potential moving forward besides Valancuinas.

So I have two plans...one Realistic and one semi-unrealistic. The realistic one is fairly similar to the above, but the idea is to net assets and have more cap flexibility:

Realistic:
Really same plan as yours minus the Ross deal. I like that lineup, but feel dealing Ross is too much for the future youth...so I wouldn't do that Orlando deal.

Unrealistic:
Trade: Bargnani, Fields, Lowry for P. Gasol
Trade: D. DeRozan FOR E. Udoh, 18th Pick (Draft M. Kobango)
Sign: J. Calderon, M. Dunleavy JR, A. Anderson

PF P. Gasol/ E. Udoh
SF R. Gay/ A. Anderson
C J. Valanciunas/ A. Johnson
SG T. Ross/ M. Dunleavy JR
PG J. Calderon/ M. Kabongo

[eitanr]

Do people still think Bargs has positive value in the trade market?

If BC was a little more proactive at draft time he would make a deal that sends Bargs/future first protected 2014 to Utah for Marvin Williams and one their two 2013 picks. That might net us Kabongo if he declares and shave a year off Bargs deal. Utah is likely losing both Milsap and Jefferson so a 27 year old recycled big playing with Kanter might good value in a lousy draft. Williams would replace a departing AA.

This could not have been done. No one wanted Bargnani....if anyone offered anything he'd be gone.

The only team that expressed little interest was the Lakers. A move to net Pau Gasol may have been plausible before he got injured...I still would have dealt Bargs, Fields and LK just to ensure I had Gasol next season....pretty risky...but Raps would at the very least save a lot of future cap.

[Dalek]

If BC is still here I can see the following going down, mainly because he was so enamoured with David Lee when then were in the Bosh free agency year:

Bargnani and Terrance Ross

for

David Lee

It gives Toronto a decent scoring low-post four, who is at a higher efficiency than Bargnani. Golden State, has had some interest in Bargnani, and after the game he played against them, the interest might be renewed. Ross is the deal sweetener to make things happen.

[Sterling_Archer]

If BC is still here I can see the following going down, mainly because he was so enamoured with David Lee when then were in the Bosh free agency year:

Bargnani and Terrance Ross

for

David Lee

It gives Toronto a decent scoring low-post four, who is at a higher efficiency than Bargnani. Golden State, has had some interest in Bargnani, and after the game he played against them, the interest might be renewed. Ross is the deal sweetener to make things happen.

They would never do this . They don't need Ross with Barnes, curry, and Thompson all great outside scorers. David lee is a huge cog for their team. He consistently gives them a double double.

[Camboflage]

If BC is still here I can see the following going down, mainly because he was so enamoured with David Lee when then were in the Bosh free agency year:

Bargnani and Terrance Ross

for

David Lee

It gives Toronto a decent scoring low-post four, who is at a higher efficiency than Bargnani. Golden State, has had some interest in Bargnani, and after the game he played against them, the interest might be renewed. Ross is the deal sweetener to make things happen.

They would never do this . They don't need Ross with Barnes, curry, and Thompson all great outside scorers. David lee is a huge cog for their team. He consistently gives them a double double.

Never is an understatement. David Lee is way too valuable to them to just throw away for LITERALLY scraps.

[Dan2087]

Not sure there's much we CAN do with our cap

- I'd move Bargs for Ben Gordon. Gives us a relatively efficient 3pt shot off the bench that Gay and Demar can pass to. If it works, great - we might be able to resign him for less money the following year. If not - free agent and clear 10mil

- Backup PG. Beno Udrih, Randy Foye etc

- Hope that Landry can somehow get his shot back

- Dejuan Blair or JO as a backup C to Jonas. Dally if he comes at a reasonable price

Lowry/Udrih or Foye/Lucas
Demar/Gordon/Ross
Gay/Fields/Kleiza
Amir/Acy
Val/Blair or JO

We might play well with this, or it might be terrible. If we end up giving our pick to OKC this year, then next draft we will have one and Kleiza, Gordon, Grey, Lucas are gone. That's nearly 20mil in cap space free. Resign Lowry and add a lotto pick. Unfortunately the DD extension kicks in and Gay's salary goes up but the space should be able to absorb this

Next year IMO should be about building chemistry between the guys we plan to build around and to not handcuff ourselves further. We need to start thinking 2 years or so down the road because we aren't going anywhere with the assets (or lack thereof) we have now

Millsap sounds great and all that, but honestly we won't be able to do ANYTHING to add depth. We'll just be adding AA's x5. We don't have Lebron, Wade and Bosh, or Durant, Westbrook, Ibaka and Martin so we need depth. We can't rely on Gay, Lowry, Demar, Millsap to play 40+min a night

[Dalek]

If BC is still here I can see the following going down, mainly because he was so enamoured with David Lee when then were in the Bosh free agency year:

Bargnani and Terrance Ross

for

David Lee

It gives Toronto a decent scoring low-post four, who is at a higher efficiency than Bargnani. Golden State, has had some interest in Bargnani, and after the game he played against them, the interest might be renewed. Ross is the deal sweetener to make things happen.

They would never do this . They don't need Ross with Barnes, curry, and Thompson all great outside scorers. David lee is a huge cog for their team. He consistently gives them a double double.

Never is an understatement. David Lee is way too valuable to them to just throw away for LITERALLY scraps.

I thought people here would feel that way. $13m-$15m-$15.4m is the remainder of his contract. In the cap era you might see some crazy trades to save some money. Lee boards and scores, but he is a terrible defender. It would be the type of trade that BC makes to blow everyone away. The reality is GS maymake the trade if they don't think of Lee as piece who will make them a perrenial contender.