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Alvin Gentry vs Mike Brown.

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Alvin Gentry vs Mike Brown

Alvin Gentry
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Mike Brown
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Mike Dunlap
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Re: Alvin Gentry vs Mike Brown. 

Post#41 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri Mar 8, 2013 3:08 am

Sik Infant wrote:1. Of course the championship is the ultimate end goal but as fans of a small market team we are aware of the difficulties in putting together the poduct to produce such results, I am convinced Charlotte will win a championship before I die althouth that will have to be within a 50 year time frame...Baby steps for a young franchise such as ours and a misstep as Dunlap is proving to be is costly.

2. Dunlap was hired to develop the youth at the expense of losing and some of our players are exceeding expectations this season (Kemba), I honestly do not have a clue how any of that applies to Dunlap as Kemba is actually a much improved version of the EXACT same player he was last season, it's not as if Dunlap has just revamped his game magically, he has got the green light (FO decision) and early in the season his shot was falling.
Everyone else has shown "subtle" improvement and nothing major, I would argue that Mullens in many ways is worse than last season.

3. Our team is much improved over last season, we had no talent last year, at all, Sessions+Gordon+MKG+Adrien+Haywood would beat our team from last season no question. Why should Dunlap get the credit for Cho's genius?

4. Paul Silas wasn't even trying last season and was better than Dunlap, this current team would have 20 wins under Silas imo.

5. The Princeton and the Motion aren't interchangeable ie you couldn't have your team run them at different points in the game due to the difference in restrictions of player movement, screens and cuts, as an example the current "positionless" offense used by the Heat is actually a variant of a Motion as the patterns are repeating through "Instinct" as opposed to "sets" Whenever I ever write Princeton I also/motion as basically that is the same thing depending on restricts and the 4-1 set.

The Princeton is set with repeating patterns thoughout and very structured, ie the ball handler, screener,s spot up shooter and cutter each know basically where each other are meant to be and it has been drilled 5 thousand times, ie The early 2000 Sacto Kings.

5 unathletic guys can beat a superior team through executing these offenses well and having good fundamentals, however, if you get the current Heat to run it you have a Dynasty.


Im reluctant to call Cho a genius.... yet.. Daryl Morey on the other hand did fantastic getting Harden, and got Robinson for a box of cracker jacks.
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Post#42 » by Elden Payton » Fri Mar 8, 2013 3:11 am

Yeah in my opinion (now) Morey is the best in the game.

Buford is a legend and Presti is very good despite being a tad overrated.

Lets be real here though, when Cho got here the cupboard was bare, historically bare, He's done a very good job so far and only keeps getting better, let him stack his deck and then see what plays out, which is exactly what Morey done after Yao/TMac injuries.
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Re: Alvin Gentry vs Mike Brown. 

Post#43 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri Mar 8, 2013 3:15 am

Sik Infant wrote:Yeah in my opinion (now) Morey is the best in the game.

Buford is a legend and Presti is very good despite being a tad overrated.

Lets be real here though, when Cho got here the cupboard was bare, historically bare, He's done a very good job so far and only keeps getting better, let him stack his deck and then see what plays out, which is exactly what Morey done after Yao/TMac injuries.


Presti is good, but I can agree hes a tad overrated. Durant fell in his lap. The Harden pick was solid and at the time questioned by quiet a few "experts" Westbrook was obviously a good pick. Giving Ibaka an extension over Harden could prove costly.
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Re: Alvin Gentry vs Mike Brown. 

Post#44 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri Mar 8, 2013 3:19 am

Is somewhat depressing seeing what Portland got for Wallace while we got two mediocre 1st rounders.
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Re: Alvin Gentry vs Mike Brown. 

Post#45 » by Eoghan » Fri Mar 8, 2013 3:25 am

Sik Infant wrote: Whenever I ever write Princeton I also/motion as basically that is the same thing depending on restricts and the 4-1 set.

Well you should probably stop doing that.
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Post#46 » by Elden Payton » Fri Mar 8, 2013 3:30 am

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Sik Infant wrote: Whenever I ever write Princeton I also/motion as basically that is the same thing depending on restricts and the 4-1 set.

Well you should probably stop doing that.


Why? The Princeton is a type of motion in its own right?
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Re: Alvin Gentry vs Mike Brown. 

Post#47 » by Elden Payton » Fri Mar 8, 2013 3:31 am

To spell it out the Princeton is a motion offense not the motion offense.

There are literally 23426452715 versions of the Princeton.
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Re: Alvin Gentry vs Mike Brown. 

Post#48 » by Eoghan » Fri Mar 8, 2013 3:40 am

Sik Infant wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:
Sik Infant wrote: Whenever I ever write Princeton I also/motion as basically that is the same thing depending on restricts and the 4-1 set.

Well you should probably stop doing that.


Why? The Princeton is a type of motion in its own right?

Because it's similar to typing Catholicism/Christianity.
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Re: Alvin Gentry vs Mike Brown. 

Post#49 » by Roll Tide 09 » Fri Mar 8, 2013 3:52 am

I voted Mike Brown, but I'd still rather have Jerry Sloan.
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Re: Alvin Gentry vs Mike Brown. 

Post#50 » by JMAC3 » Fri Mar 8, 2013 6:04 am

I think Mike Brown is a solid coach, but he hasnt ever showed me he is anything spectacular. He has only coached extremely talented teams and hasnt been able to get much out of just average players.

Gentry on the other hand has done well with what he has been given. Yes he had Steve Nash, but I think he is a good offensive coach and understands spacing, tempo, and mismatches. I think he would be a great fit for us, because he runs an offense that relies on the point guard, which makes sense because Kemba is our best player. MKG would benefit from the spacing, ball movement and fast paced type of game he would have us play.

If we could get McLemore in the draft he makes even more sense, because he would give us the three point shooter that the offense requires. Also, we have some good defenders, so I think our defense would be fine without having a dominant defensive coach. It makes more sense to have a coach come in to fix our offense and I think Gentry is actually a solid defensive coach, but outside of Grant Hill he had no defenders. Amare, Nash, and Channing Frye arent stopping anybody.

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