Great article " IN FAVORS AND KANTER we trust.

Hoops Addict · Post #1 » by **Hoops Addict** » Wed Mar 6, 2013 8:10 pm

http://weareutahjazz.com/2013/03/06/in- ... -we-trust/

RyanStorm · Post #2 » by **RyanStorm** » Wed Mar 6, 2013 10:37 pm

Nice....

I will bow down and never say another bad word about Corbin(for at least a month), if he started Favors and Kanter over Millsap and Jefferson.

If he truely wants to play who ever gives us best chance at winning, then doing this would prove his integrity or whether he just spouts BS about how he does things.

aether1234 · Post #3 » by **aether1234** » Fri Mar 8, 2013 5:29 am

Kanter has every right to leave utah after his contract done and nobody can say anything about it after what Utah did to him

Post #4 » by **StocktonShorts** » Fri Mar 8, 2013 5:47 am

aether1234 wrote:Kanter has every right to leave utah after his contract done and nobody can say anything about it after what Utah did to him

Yeah, it's criminal how they've paid him
Millions of dollars and helped him develop an NBA skill set.

GTFO

aether1234 · Post #5 » by **aether1234** » Fri Mar 8, 2013 6:16 am

StocktonShorts wrote:
aether1234 wrote:Kanter has every right to leave utah after his contract done and nobody can say anything about it after what Utah did to him

Yeah, it's criminal how they've paid him
Millions of dollars and helped him develop an NBA skill set.

GTFO

He would have gotten that money anyway, its not like nobody was going to draft him but Utah,They helped him to develop NBA skill set ? Look at Kanters scouting videos before the draft dude can even hit 3 pointers and look at his post moves Utah gave him nothing expect destroying his change at the ROY or getting selected to any Rookie All Star game, he was already a beast on offense while u say Favors has a better offensive game and Kanter should play the Center and just rebound and play defense the coach didnt even let him take any jumpers his first year, and only played him 14 mins

Post #6 » by **StocktonShorts** » Fri Mar 8, 2013 6:24 am

Retards?

GTFO. Seriously. That's uncalled for.

RyanStorm · Post #7 » by **RyanStorm** » Fri Mar 8, 2013 6:26 am

Under any normal team, all our 4 would have been started, especially in the east.

Kanter could have been drafted by Orlando, and they wouldn't be missing Howard at all....

aether1234 · Post #8 » by **aether1234** » Fri Mar 8, 2013 6:38 am

StocktonShorts wrote:Retards?

GTFO. Seriously. That's uncalled for.

OK edited happy now ? answer the rest of the post now

RyanStorm · Post #9 » by **RyanStorm** » Fri Mar 8, 2013 7:32 am

Kanter has been heavily influenced by Big Al, and I think a lot of Kanter's maturity comes from Al, I mean that is at least what he says, and it kind of shows in his ability compared to what we saw last year.

I said somewhere else here, that I think its time we get new more dynamic FA Vet's to come in at bench and teach him more skill sets, cause Kanter has all the ability in the world, he just needs more time now and training to become a super star.

Dry Fly · Post #10 » by **Dry Fly** » Fri Mar 8, 2013 1:49 pm

aether1234 wrote:
StocktonShorts wrote:Retards?

GTFO. Seriously. That's uncalled for.

OK edited happy now ? answer the rest of the post now

Get a clue or GTFO.

Post #11 » by **StocktonShorts** » Fri Mar 8, 2013 10:40 pm

aether1234 wrote:He would have gotten that money anyway, its not like nobody was going to draft him but Utah,

But Utah did draft him, and they picked him 3rd. And they haven't traded him or given up on him.

aether1234 wrote:They helped him to develop NBA skill set ? Look at Kanters scouting videos before the draft dude can even hit 3 pointers and look at his post moves Utah gave him nothing ...

Have you watched the bulk of Kanter's minutes last year and this year? It's clear that he's progressed. The coaches and Kanter both give credit to Al Jefferson for helping Enes develop new moves/skills. It's not just about shooting in an empty gym with no one guarding you.

aether1234 wrote:...destroying his change at the ROY or getting selected to any Rookie All Star game

Who was in the Rising Stars challenge (or whatever it was called then) five years ago? Does anyone know? Does anyone care? I can't believe this is a gripe.

aether1234 wrote:... he was already a beast on offense while u say Favors has a better offensive game and Kanter should play the Center and just rebound and play defense the coach didnt even let him take any jumpers his first year, and only played him 14 mins

Most people around here have viewed Kanter as the offense + rebounding guy and Favors as the defensive guy from as far back as I can remember. I'm not sure where you're getting this from.

ack · Post #12 » by **ack** » Sat Mar 9, 2013 4:56 pm

StocktonShorts wrote: It's not just about shooting in an empty gym with no one guarding you.

İ agree with you but this is nonsense. He was shooting 3's in Turkey and prep school. He loves Al and he is learning al's moves.

Fido · Post #13 » by **Fido** » Sat Mar 9, 2013 8:50 pm

Anyone who has been paying attention at all can see that Favors and Kanter are developing--and not in spite of the Jazz. PS: Both will be restricted free agents after their current and don't have the "right" to go elsewhere without the Jazz having a chance to match their next contract. Let's stay grounded in reality folks.

aether1234 · Post #14 » by **aether1234** » Sat Mar 9, 2013 9:55 pm

StocktonShorts wrote:But Utah did draft him, and they picked him 3rd. And they haven't traded him or given up on him.

Its still doesnt change the fact that he would have gotten that money anyway so whats ur point ?

StocktonShorts wrote:Have you watched the bulk of Kanter's minutes last year and this year? It's clear that he's progressed. The coaches and Kanter both give credit to Al Jefferson for helping Enes develop new moves/skills. It's not just about shooting in an empty gym with no one guarding you.

Yea he was playing 14.2 minutes last year and 15.3 minutes this year big diffirence :roll:

whats next ? 16 minutes next year ? Enes already has a developed offensive game just watch this videos, its not about shooting in empty gym, dude broke Nowitzkis scoring record before stepping on the league....

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5kAZL0Q3ic[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YzbhAQGPqk[/youtube]

StocktonShorts wrote:Who was in the Rising Stars challenge (or whatever it was called then) five years ago? Does anyone know? Does anyone care? I can't believe this is a gripe.

It doesnt mean much but its still shows how Utah blocked his progress by playing him less than almost every rookie drafted that year in first round, or giving him a change to show what he can do

StocktonShorts wrote:Most people around here have viewed Kanter as the offense + rebounding guy and Favors as the defensive guy from as far back as I can remember. I'm not sure where you're getting this from.

Most of the ppl in here was saying Kanter should play Center to defend and rebound only and that his only offensive weapon is put backs while Favors has a better offensive game and he should play the PF.

Its took them one year to find out that Favors is a tyson chandler type player while Kanter is an offensive beast, you can go back and check old posts if you want.

RyanStorm · Post #15 » by **RyanStorm** » Sat Mar 9, 2013 10:23 pm

All I know is he is the best thing to happen to us since Dwill....

RyanStorm · Post #16 » by **RyanStorm** » Sat Mar 9, 2013 10:24 pm

The only thing we could have done to him is deny him experience...he still has all the ability and skills.....but experience is needed to be an all-star.....he will be the next Howard.

ack · Post #17 » by **ack** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:09 am

Nope. I think his max is Zach Randolph with speed, more power and better range. Dwight is atlethic freak, Enes is not. Enes has better tools, Dwight has defence. I think enes will be twenty-ten player thats all. And Enes player better with bigger bodies like Ömer Aşık or Tyson Chandler.