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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#141 » by NeedsMoreCheese » Tue Mar 5, 2013 7:08 am

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studcrackers wrote:heard any cowboys rumblings lately jeff?

I will be at TAMU pro day on Friday and the Boys will be there en masse. Stay tuned!


Whats your opinion on what the cowboys should do now that they've released Sensabaugh and tagged Spencer? I mean they pretty much have to draft a safety now don't they? I guess what i'm asking is are they stupid enough to take Vaccaro in the first round? (I say stupid because while I would have no problems with Vaccaro, they have much bigger needs for an Olineman in the first round and with this safety class pretty deep they'd be better off getting one in the second round)
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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#142 » by Icness » Tue Mar 5, 2013 12:42 pm

Vaccaro will be gone by the time they pick I suspect. Cyprien is an option in the 1st but where they pick in the 2nd and 3rd is where a lot of good safeties will be. Guys like Philip Thomas, Shawn Williams, Tony Jefferson, Duke Williams, Baccari Rambo, DJ Swearinger, JJ Wilcox. They all have drawbacks but all have potential to be effective starters for a long time. Those guys are not in any order btw.
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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#143 » by NeedsMoreCheese » Wed Mar 6, 2013 12:28 pm

I read this story http://www.thepostgame.com/features/201 ... d-cusp-nfl
Do you think Peter Lalich gets drafted by anyone? He seems to have the size and talent (well according to that article, but I know a lot of those just hype a guy up to be more than what he is hoping to sell a "redemption story") to succeed if accurate.

Another note i came across after searching more was this
It is also important to point out that Dallas Cowboy Head Coach Jason Garrett’s brother John was one of the primary recruiters of Lalich to Virginia. This tells me that Peter Lilich will be very much on the radar of both the Dallas Cowboys and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, where John Garrett is now on Greg Schiano’s staff.

http://www.knowitallfootball.com/2013/0 ... otten-one/

Also found that hes apparently worked out with Cowboys receivers before
http://www.hogshaven.com/2013/3/1/40550 ... lich-story
Kevin Ogletree went undrafted out of UVA to the Cowboys and has since made a nice little niche for himself on their roster. The two became friends in the short time Peter was in Charlottesville and have stayed close ever since - apparently close enough to not only loan Pete his Versace chains, but also to bring Peter down to work out with Cowboy receivers during the lockout two years ago.


So the Cowboys definitely are well aware of this kid i'd have to imagine.
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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#144 » by Crowman » Wed Mar 6, 2013 10:03 pm

Think Xavier Rhodes will be there when the colts pick?
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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#145 » by Icness » Wed Mar 6, 2013 10:12 pm

Kohl Is A Mome wrote:I read this story http://www.thepostgame.com/features/201 ... d-cusp-nfl
Do you think Peter Lalich gets drafted by anyone? He seems to have the size and talent (well according to that article, but I know a lot of those just hype a guy up to be more than what he is hoping to sell a "redemption story") to succeed if accurate.

Another note i came across after searching more was this
It is also important to point out that Dallas Cowboy Head Coach Jason Garrett’s brother John was one of the primary recruiters of Lalich to Virginia. This tells me that Peter Lilich will be very much on the radar of both the Dallas Cowboys and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, where John Garrett is now on Greg Schiano’s staff.

http://www.knowitallfootball.com/2013/0 ... otten-one/

Also found that hes apparently worked out with Cowboys receivers before
http://www.hogshaven.com/2013/3/1/40550 ... lich-story
Kevin Ogletree went undrafted out of UVA to the Cowboys and has since made a nice little niche for himself on their roster. The two became friends in the short time Peter was in Charlottesville and have stayed close ever since - apparently close enough to not only loan Pete his Versace chains, but also to bring Peter down to work out with Cowboy receivers during the lockout two years ago.


So the Cowboys definitely are well aware of this kid i'd have to imagine.

I don't see him being drafted but he won't lack for offers in free agency, wouldn't surprise me if Dallas wins the bidding. I was actually scouting his center Eric Kush a couple days ago but I saw Lalich show off a real live arm. He's not as good as Josh Portis was at UCP though, and last I checked he was on Seattle's practice squad.
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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#146 » by Icness » Wed Mar 6, 2013 10:13 pm

Crowman wrote:Think Xavier Rhodes will be there when the colts pick?


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Post#147 » by Jake0890 » Thu Mar 7, 2013 12:43 am

Heard anything about the direction the Bears might go with their 1st round pick? OL? WR? LB?
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Post#148 » by Icness » Thu Mar 7, 2013 5:17 pm

Jake0890 wrote:Heard anything about the direction the Bears might go with their 1st round pick? OL? WR? LB?


Highly doubt it is WR in the 1st, TE is more likely if Eifert is still available. Arthur Brown is a possibility. Jonathan Cooper too. Wouldn't rule out a pass rushing DL either, guys like S. Williams or J. Jones. I know they love Lane Johnson but he'll be gone at least 10 picks earlier.
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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#149 » by Turk Nowitzki » Fri Mar 8, 2013 4:46 am

Apologies if this has already been covered but I was wondering about Montee Ball. Approximately where might be drafted? What do you think of him? What do NFL people think of him?

Any other Wisconsin players you like/dislike?
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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#150 » by Icness » Fri Mar 8, 2013 2:42 pm

Turk Nowitzki wrote:Apologies if this has already been covered but I was wondering about Montee Ball. Approximately where might be drafted? What do you think of him? What do NFL people think of him?

Any other Wisconsin players you like/dislike?


Ball is pretty generic as far a a NFL RB. His poor vision really limits him because he doesn't have the speed or lateral quickness to bounce around like he did too much at Wisconsin. I think he will be like a healthy Javon Ringer or Tim Hightower in the NFL; eminently capable #2 back but not a bellcow. His improvement in the passing game, both as a receiver and protector, stood out to me in 2012.

I am a Travis Frederick fan. Best center in the draft even though he's quite obviously a NFL guard. Top 40 player IMO. Far better NFL prospect than the woefully overrated Barrett Jones.
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Post#151 » by kdawg32086 » Fri Mar 8, 2013 4:14 pm

Is there anyone in this draft who can actually be an NFL caliber starting center? It seems like the top centers (Jones and Frederick) are considered guards by most draft experts.
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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#152 » by Icness » Fri Mar 8, 2013 4:25 pm

kdawg32086 wrote:Is there anyone in this draft who can actually be an NFL caliber starting center? It seems like the top centers (Jones and Frederick) are considered guards by most draft experts.


Jonathan Cooper would be a better C than either of those two, but again he's a guard too. Brian Schwenke can start, maybe. Ivory Wade from Baylor is also better at another spot (right tackle) but he can start as a NFL center for a power-oriented team. My guy Mario Benavides is technically awesome but you can't play in the NFL at under 295 and he's not even 280. I do like Patrick Lewis from TAMU, underrated guy. He's draftable IMO, kicked Jesse WIlliams' butt all over the field.

Two small schoolers that are legit centers, not sold they will be good enough in the NFL though: Eric Kush and Sherman Carter.
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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#153 » by studcrackers » Sat Mar 9, 2013 2:47 am

after lookin at your latest mock draft and top 123, what caused joseph randle to drop off so much? the bad 40? possible fumble concerns?

also did ya pick up any cowboy tidbits at a&m's pro day? nice to hear from you that fellow high school alum nwachku had a nice pro day
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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#154 » by Icness » Sat Mar 9, 2013 1:46 pm

studcrackers wrote:after lookin at your latest mock draft and top 123, what caused joseph randle to drop off so much? the bad 40? possible fumble concerns?

also did ya pick up any cowboy tidbits at a&m's pro day? nice to hear from you that fellow high school alum nwachku had a nice pro day


I know the Cowboys are going after Sammie Lee Hill from DET in free agency. Good fit IMO, but he will have other suitors with more cap $$.

Draft-wise, sounds like they are trying to get more picks to stock up on the lines. I'll be surprised if their 1st pick isn't OL or DL, and their scouting staff will be too, with one exception: Kenny Vaccaro. The Cowboys are his floor.
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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#155 » by NeedsMoreCheese » Sat Mar 9, 2013 4:42 pm

honestly unless those top 5 olineman are gone (which would be surprising) there is absolutely no excuse for the Boys not to draft one of them. I doubt they get this option to choose but if so, who is a better fit Warmack or Cooper?
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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#156 » by Icness » Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:04 pm

Kohl Is A Mome wrote:honestly unless those top 5 olineman are gone (which would be surprising) there is absolutely no excuse for the Boys not to draft one of them. I doubt they get this option to choose but if so, who is a better fit Warmack or Cooper?


Cooper is the only one that will be there. I guess Warmack could be but I doubt it. If the rumors are true--and I strongly suspect they are--that the Cardinals will sign Palmer once Oakland releases him (w/ OAK taking Geno Smith at #3), they are absolutely drafting Lane Johnson at #7. SD will almost certainly go OL at 11. NO and CAR are both OL-needy at 14 & 15. I really don't see much chance of any but Cooper being there for DAL. The nice thing is that he can play center or either guard spot too, while Warmack is strictly a right guard. Flexibility important when rebuilding a line.

Should DAL go a different direction in the 1st (safety or DE) they should have some appealing options in the 3rd. Jordan Mills from LaTech, Terron Armstead from APB, Justin Pugh from Syracuse, maybe Dallas Thomas from Tennessee, all those guys are strong value in that range. I believe every one of them will be decent NFL starters. Maybe not right away but within 2-3 years, though I'm more bearish on Pugh. Armstead has officially hit "overrated" status but the hype is not without factual merit.
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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#157 » by penquin11 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:56 am

How good is this years crop of Dlinemen? Who is the best of the bunch? Where do you think he goes? And what is his cieling in player comparison form?
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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#158 » by Dalbi » Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:33 pm

Icness,

What do you think are the 49ers biggest needs and what do you think the strategy should be with all the early picks they have?
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Post#159 » by Da Schwab » Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:56 pm

I guess I'll be the first to ask...

Pending the Percy Harvin trade going through, what do you see the Vikings doing with their two picks (especially being so close together)? Packaging them and moving up, or just making some solid additions?
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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#160 » by Icness » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:48 pm

penquin11 wrote:How good is this years crop of Dlinemen? Who is the best of the bunch? Where do you think he goes? And what is his cieling in player comparison form?


Exceptional class. My order:
Updated 2/11
1. Sheldon Richardson-Missouri
2. Sharrif Floyd-Florida
3. Star Lotulelei-Utah
4. Jonathan Hankins-Ohio State
5. Sylvester Williams-North Carolina
6. Jesse Williams-Alabama
7. John Jenkins-Georgia
8. Brandon Williams-Missouri Southern
9. Kawann Short-Purdue
10. Montori Hughes-Tennessee-Martin

I would probably bump Sylvester Williams over Hankins at this point, and Brandon Williams is clearly>>John Jenkins. I've watched more Jesse Williams since then too and I came away less impressed. Must edit my ratings board...

Floyd, Richardson, and Star (if his heart checks out) are top 15 locks. Absolute locks. S. Williams is going top 25 more than likely, certainly top 35. The Viking LOVE him and guess what, they just got an extra 1st. All four of those guys have annual Pro Bowl potential. If Richardson clicks with his coaches he's better than Gerald McCoy.

Floyd is versatile enough to play 3-4 DE or 4-3 DT. Richardson can do that to some extent but Floyd is better for it. B. Williams is a rock solid NT, plays like Kris Jenkins used to in CAR. Montori Hughes is loquacious, stout, and nasty as a 1-technique. Kawann Short is a 2-gap penetrator, ideal for an attacking 4-3 front.

Most likely to flop is absolutely Jenkins. People think he's a nose because he weighs around 345. He's not tough or stout inside though; he's a grossly overweight 4-3 DE in the way he plays. I like him if he can get down to about 325 and play 3-technique, but I don't think either will happen for him. Has a Tommie Kelly mentality too, effort comes and goes but when he's dialed in he's still real effective.
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