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Hawks - Celtics Smackdown Part 3

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Re: Hawks - Celtics Smackdown Part 3 

Post#41 » by GrimeyKidd » Sat Mar 9, 2013 5:35 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:What concerns me, is that Josh probably looks at his numbers and thinks, "I had a great game last night. I'm not changing ANYTHING. It's Drew's fault we lost. "

What other reason can there be for making these dumb types of plays over and over again? Game after game. Season after season.


Josh has never said that and also thinks whenever the team loses he loses man
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Re: Hawks - Celtics Smackdown Part 3 

Post#42 » by GrimeyKidd » Sat Mar 9, 2013 5:36 pm

parson wrote:One thing, I really enjoyed: the announcers seemed to be pulling for the Hawks. When has ANYone spoken well of us, other than Rathbun and Wilkins?

They praised our successes; they complained about our mistakes; they pointed out the mistakes the refs made against us. They got mad when the ball seemed to go off of Terry but the refs gave it to BOS. Then they cried because the refs wouldn't listen to Drew and watch the replay. It was fun.


I was surprised as well
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Re: Hawks - Celtics Smackdown Part 3 

Post#43 » by Jamaaliver » Sat Mar 9, 2013 7:36 pm

GrimeyKidd wrote:Josh has never said that and also thinks whenever the team loses he loses man


Then there is no excuse for making these poor decisions year after year for 9 seasons.
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Re: Hawks - Celtics Smackdown Part 3 

Post#44 » by GrimeyKidd » Sat Mar 9, 2013 7:42 pm

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GrimeyKidd wrote:Josh has never said that and also thinks whenever the team loses he loses man


Then there is no excuse for making these poor decisions year after year for 9 seasons.


Who in the nba is perfect with their decisions even kobe sometimes makes terrible decisions
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Re: Hawks - Celtics Smackdown Part 3 

Post#45 » by Jamaaliver » Sat Mar 9, 2013 7:43 pm

FCNATL85 wrote:I am also concerned with the effects of his stupid plays on the rest of the team. You could se it on Al's and Kyle 's faces after the attempted pass behind the back. Interestingly enough though, no one seems to get on him and to assume some kind of leadership ...


Agreed. That was a moment that vocal leadership s needed.

KG, or Kobe, would have gotten in his @ss for that pass. And the travel. And the other pass.

Even cooler heads like Wade or Durant woulda gotten the point across.

All the leaders on the team need to have gotten on Josh after the game. This isn't the first time Josh as made poor decisions at crucial moments.

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Re: Hawks - Celtics Smackdown Part 3 

Post#46 » by parson » Sat Mar 9, 2013 10:35 pm

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parson wrote:I agree with the criticisms - ALL of them. Only the worst homer couldn't see the truth here.

HOWEVER, without Smith, we are not good enough. Horford (whom I love) is not a great defender at the rim. If we could trade Smith for a good defensive Center, I'd be right there with y'all. As it is, we go backwards without Smith.


That's assuming no one is able to duplicate his contributions.

There are a few young guys out there who can give solid, consistent contributions without the boneheaded plays or poor shooting.

Other teams win all he time without Josh. It's time we became one of them. Nine years is long enough.

You're right - for the most part. I AM assuming it'll be very difficult to find someone to "duplicate his contributions."

May I say that - perhaps - you think it'll be easy to replace him?

He fills up the stat sheet. There are only a few human beings alive who can do all that he does in terms of rebounding, scoring, individual defense, team defense, shot blocking, passing and making steals.

I think that replacing him will be incredibly hard. We'll replace him with "smart" guys who can't do half of what he can do.

Still, (as always) if we could get a good defensive Center for him, I'd be right there with you.
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Re: Hawks - Celtics Smackdown Part 3 

Post#47 » by Jamaaliver » Sat Mar 9, 2013 11:48 pm

But why do all those things have to come from one person?

Rebounding, shot blocking can be handled by a Center.

Passing and stealing can be handled by a Guard.

Individual defense can be handled by...individual defenders. (BTW, Josh is nt a shut down defender.)

Team defense can be handled by the team.

Hell, you do realize Josh currently leads the team in only two categories: blocks...and turnovers?
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Re: Hawks - Celtics Smackdown Part 3 

Post#48 » by Jamaaliver » Sat Mar 9, 2013 11:59 pm

Example of talent versus smarts:

Josh as more talent.

Horford has hustle and smarts.

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