Marvin Williams Trade Redux

[blackham9258]

I was excited when we got Marvin but immediately started reading the wires on the trade expecting that we would get a 1st rounder for taking on the extra year. Then I read Chad Ford and others say how they couldn't believe we didn't require a 1st rounder for taking on the extra year.

I don't know what happened with that trade at the time but looking back it looks like we should have got 2 first rounders to take on Marvin's dead weight.

My take on what happened: Jazz offered the TPE for Marvin if we got a 1st, but then changed their minds when Mo came available and used it to get him from LAC. Then when the Jazz went back to ATL and wanted to send Devin the Hawks said yes still but didn't want to include the 1st.

I still think we should have gotten the first.

Thoughts.

Some might say the last thing we need is an extra pick this year in a bad draft... I say we can always trade it for a pick in future drafts and can always stand to have assets to make trades and move up in the draft.

[RyanStorm]

I was also think we should go for our 1st rounder next year. I actually think we can choose to take GSW's pick next year, on account the deal goes onto through next year and the year after at top 7-8 protected, but after that we only get a 2nd rounder.

I am 50% sure we "may" take GSW pick. The only reason I would want to do it next year, is cause GSW could do much much worst next, I mean if Curry hurt his ankle again next year, were looking at a lottery pick, but I would be so pissed if they got into protected again.


I still think we got plenty of room. We can just drop Marvin, its not like there isn't plenty of newbies coming in, with three draft picks.

I would try and find some contracts to take on for 2014 draft picks.

[blackham9258]

We have to take the pick this year period.

[RyanStorm]

Well I think 10-20 is much better than 1-10 in terms of the last several drafts I have seen. I just wish GSW would have bombed, but they look like certain 7th easily. I also wish Eastern teams would have better records, cause it doesn't matter to us in terms of playoffs, but could mean a 1-4 spots down from where we are now.

I know we got three guys to take Marvins spot at much cheaper cost, Carroll is ready for Starter and Evans is ready for bench. I think we didn't do trades, cause we didn't want replacements, cause we already have them. We need new draft picks to replace our current bench. We get two this year, we just need 3 more, but I want at least 1 more #3 picks like Kanter and Favors, and two lottery picks like Hayward and Burks.

[jazzfan1971]

Marvin looked terrific in summer league. Was shooting a ton of 3s and playing good defense. As the season wore on though he just got worse and worse. Don't know why really.

The trade was a mistake for Utah, plain and simple. It's making me lose a little faith in the Jazz front office. We'd have been much better off, on the court and financially, just keeping Harris.

[Jefff]

IF marvin exercise his option, we'll have another expiring contract next year. 7.5 millions aren't so bad, he plays D and if he regains confidence has all the talent to play the SF spot.

[Hoops Addict]

Marvin looked terrific in summer league. Was shooting a ton of 3s and playing good defense. As the season wore on though he just got worse and worse. Don't know why really.

The trade was a mistake for Utah, plain and simple. It's making me lose a little faith in the Jazz front office. We'd have been much better off, on the court and financially, just keeping Harris.

+1....i thought he would be decent.

[RyanStorm]

I think the fact that Foye is around is why Marvin sucks....

Foye is a monster at 3pt, and usually in a Jazz system the front court shoots the 3pt. So if Foye wasn't around, we would be setting up Marvin for those threes. Then we got Millsap and Jefferson who don't know which position they play, but they get all the interior with the jump shots out there. Leaving only 3pt's for Marvin, which he doesn't get cause Foye gets them, and now with Mo, he really isn't going to get any.

Which brings in what I said or we said a long time ago. Carroll is and has always been the best option at Starter, cause we don't need offense from that position, we need more Defense.


With bench of: Burks - Hayward - Marvin - Favors - Kanter

This is the ideal place for Marvin, cause he is the vet who just needs to be the experienced player, and a great option for the 3pt in this group.

[hoops4life]

I was really excited when this went down but it is unfortunate it didn't workout.