Cody Zeller

[theBigLip]

I think Zeller will drop like a rock on draft day. He's a great college player but he will get pounded by more physical guys in the pros. But what if he falls to us? I wonder if the Pacers would like the home state hero, and would help us facilitate a draft for Granger? Just a crazy thought. Might need to have an extension from Granger to make it worth it.

[DocRI]

I've actually been thinking a lot about Zeller recently (much of which was obscenity-laiden during the U of M game), and here's what I came up with —

The Pistons three most significant needs to address this offseason seem to be: 1) starting backcourt mate for Knight; 2) starting SF; and 3) third big man (first big off the bench). Ideally, our draft pick will yield one of these three, so why not Zeller as our third big if he falls to us? I really think Millsap and Hickson are each gonna get starter money on the open market, so filling that role with Zeller on a rookie deal may be a better option than overpaying to reach further down the free agent pecking order. Naturally, I'd rather see us snag one of the elite wings of this draft class, but if none are available and Zeller is clearly the best talent on the board, I'd prefer to take him and create a Monroe / Drummond / Zeller big man rotation.

As for essentially trading our pick for Granger, I'm not against it 'cuz it would certainly fill our glaring hole at SF. That said, it would essentially cost us two of our assets heading into this offseason — our high pick and a good chunk of our cap space — instead of just one. So while I'm not against it, it wouldn't be my first choice because I'm greedy and want to get as much talent as possible out of our picks and money.

[ComboGuardCity]

I'd rather trade our pick for Chandler if Zeller is BPA available...or reach for GRIII.

[DetroitDon15]

I'd rather trade our pick for Chandler if Zeller is BPA available...or reach for GRIII.

I wouldnt trade a lotto for Chandler. I don't see Zeller as a good fit.

[vege]

I think Granger is having way too many injury issues and he is 30, so I would not trade a good lotto pick and raw cap space for him at this point.

Like DocRI said, draft Zeller and make him our 3rd big.

[Piston Pete]

I would trade down with a team owning two mid 1st rounders before taking Zeller.

1a - SF Saric (Croatia)
1b - PF Tony Mitchell (UNT)
2 - SG Crabbe (Cal)

[ComboGuardCity]

I'd rather trade our pick for Chandler if Zeller is BPA available...or reach for GRIII.

I wouldnt trade a lotto for Chandler. I don't see Zeller as a good fit.

Well if Mclemore, Bazz, Oladipo, Smart, Porter are all gone, do you see a player that even has the potential to be better than Chandler left?

[menten]

please not another "high caracter" soft finesse big man

[ajaX82]

I actually think Zeller will be a very good, not great player in the league. I don't like the fit here at all though

[Warspite]

Lets not forget that the big10 is more physical than the NBA which is all about finesse. I think Zellar very well could be a better Carlos Boozer. As a 3rd big he has plenty of size and more skill. Zellar is more advanced on offense than Moose is now. According to posters here you cant play worse defense than Moose so I would think hes an upgrade.

I think Zellar will climb on draft day as all bigmen do. However if hes still here then I have np with drafting him. Dafting him would free up about 4mil a yr for wing players.

[DetroitDon15]

I'd rather trade our pick for Chandler if Zeller is BPA available...or reach for GRIII.

I wouldnt trade a lotto for Chandler. I don't see Zeller as a good fit.

Well if Mclemore, Bazz, Oladipo, Smart, Porter are all gone, do you see a player that even has the potential to be better than Chandler left?

I'd rather sign JR Smith than trade for Wilson Chandler. Chandler is only slightly better defensively while Smith gives more offense which we need. I also think at 6 we will get a shot at Oladipo, Porter, or Mohammed. Wilson Chandler is not a cure all. I'd rather not trade the pick for him. I'd do Stuckey for him if they want out of that long term salary. Thats about it.

[DetroitDon15]

Lets not forget that the big10 is more physical than the NBA which is all about finesse. I think Zellar very well could be a better Carlos Boozer. As a 3rd big he has plenty of size and more skill. Zellar is more advanced on offense than Moose is now. According to posters here you cant play worse defense than Moose so I would think hes an upgrade.

I think Zellar will climb on draft day as all bigmen do. However if hes still here then I have np with drafting him. Dafting him would free up about 4mil a yr for wing players.

I agree. I've seen Zeller play a few times. I like what I see. I could see a comparison to Boozer or a poor man's LaMarcus Alridge. Zeller's face game is very underrated. If we draft him though, Moose is a goner than.

[The Penguin]

Trading lotto picks for Wilson Chandler or Danny Granger? We've officially lost it as a fan base.

[ComboGuardCity]

Trading lotto picks for Wilson Chandler or Danny Granger? We've officially lost it as a fan base.

Please answer my question before making such statements?

[Piston Pete]

Trading lotto picks for Wilson Chandler or Danny Granger? We've officially lost it as a fan base.

Please answer my question before making such statements?

Wings that *could* potentially be better than Chandler eventually; Saric, Caldwell-Pope, GR3....its hard to tell. A handful of guys could develop to be better than Chandler - who, himself, wasn't a great prospect at the time he was drafted.

[ComboGuardCity]

Trading lotto picks for Wilson Chandler or Danny Granger? We've officially lost it as a fan base.

Please answer my question before making such statements?

Wings that *could* potentially be better than Chandler eventually; Saric, Caldwell-Pope, GR3....its hard to tell. A handful of guys could develop to be better than Chandler - who, himself, wasn't a great prospect at the time he was drafted.

No way we take any of those guys at #9 though.

[Piston Pete]

No way we take any of those guys at #9 though.

Why not? Or trade back for multiple first rounders....

[ComboGuardCity]

No way we take any of those guys at #9 though.

Why not? Or trade back for multiple first rounders....

Neither has the crazy measurements that will vault them from 15-20 to Top 10. Plus, if our wings are gone that means most of the top bigs are left and Joe said he's going BPA. I also think we're bringing on more than one Rookie. Joe needs impact players next year to keep his job.

[The Penguin]

Well if Mclemore, Bazz, Oladipo, Smart, Porter are all gone, do you see a player that even has the potential to be better than Chandler left?

I don't see why we HAVE to take a wing. Why can't we take Carter-Williams and have a 6'6" pg next to Knight? Or take Zellar or Bennett and have a 3rd big. Lotto teams thinking they need to take a certain position is how Wes Johnson over Cousins and Monroe happens.