If the Magic get a top draft pick, who should they take?

Noonskadoodle · Post #301 » by **Noonskadoodle** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:44 am

Truth24 wrote: I would hate to see Burke on this team he is the most selfish player in the draft this year.

Ummmmm........What?

:lol:

Truth24 · Post #302 » by **Truth24** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:49 am

Noonskadoodle wrote:
Truth24 wrote: I would hate to see Burke on this team he is the most selfish player in the draft this year.

Ummmmm........What?

What I mean by that is watch the last two minutes of the Michigan V. Indiana game, instead of going through the offense he went straight iso and basically lost Michigan that game. I don't want to see that happen here plus there are better point guards out there.

Cammo101 · Post #303 » by **Cammo101** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:30 am

Truth24 wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:
Truth24 wrote:It comes down to Cody Zeller, Otto Porter, or Marcus Smart for me.

Yuck. If we use a top 3 pick on Zeller I will cry. I love Porter, but SF is the one position we should not be picking. I like Smart a lot, but he is not the true PG many on this board seem to think.

In a perfect world I would take Noel, and then try to get a late lotto pick through trade and grab Burke.

I'm not a huge fan of Zeller but he is the best center in this draft, I agree on Porter but I love his game so much it would be hard to turn him down, and I understand that about Smart as well.

I would pass on Noel not that great of a player and the bum knee just adds to it and I would hate to see Burke on this team he is the most selfish player in the draft this year.

Zeller will not be a center in the NBA. He is not strong or athletic enough. He has his shot blocked a high percentage in the Big Ten, let alone the NBA. He will be a PF in the NBA, and Noel is the clear best PF in this class.

Cammo101 · Post #304 » by **Cammo101** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:31 am

Truth24 wrote:
Noonskadoodle wrote:
Truth24 wrote: I would hate to see Burke on this team he is the most selfish player in the draft this year.

Ummmmm........What?

What I mean by that is watch the last two minutes of the Michigan V. Indiana game, instead of going through the offense he went straight iso and basically lost Michigan that game. I don't want to see that happen here plus there are better point guards out there.

Burke has a scorers mentality, but he is not selfish. Free throw shooting cost Michigan that game, not Burke.

drsd · Post #305 » by **drsd** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:41 am

G-Heel wrote:Durant alone was already a better core than what we have. You don't need 10 above avg players to win a championship, you need at least 1 superstar and 2-3 good all-star level players and a few role players.

Based on the old CBA model, I fully agree with you. But with the new model, a team (like OKC) cannot keep together their stars, and any hopeful team will be broken up just as it gets good. To make a dynasty, there will be a new model. I do not know what that will be. Watching GM Hennigan load up the team for years and years of multipl-mid-range-1sts means he sees some sort of advantage in the current market to gain those selections. The whole nature of the youth movement in Orlando is also a bit perplexing. By 2014/15, the entire Magic roster might be born on 1989 or sooner. The salary levels of the team will be very, very low.

Two years from now: what product will Orlando market to its fans?

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tranjSAIC · Post #306 » by **tranjSAIC** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:43 pm

drsd wrote:
G-Heel wrote:Durant alone was already a better core than what we have. You don't need 10 above avg players to win a championship, you need at least 1 superstar and 2-3 good all-star level players and a few role players.

Based on the old CBA model, I fully agree with you. But with the new model, a team (like OKC) cannot keep together their stars, and any hopeful team will be broken up just as it gets good. To make a dynasty, there will be a new model. I do not know what that will be. Watching GM Hennigan load up the team for years and years of multipl-mid-range-1sts means he sees some sort of advantage in the current market to gain those selections. The whole nature of the youth movement in Orlando is also a bit perplexing. By 2014/15, the entire Magic roster might be born on 1989 or sooner. The salary levels of the team will be very, very low.

Two years from now: what product will Orlando market to its fans?

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OKC had 3 superstars, we don't even have one yet. I could see with the new CBA teams going for 2 stars and the rest solid role players / young guys on cheap contracts

Orium · Post #307 » by **Orium** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:02 pm

Question: Can anyone name some big men that have suffered similar injuries to Noel and have fully recovered? Does he have any chance at all?

OrlandoMagician · Post #308 » by **OrlandoMagician** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:43 pm

Orium wrote:Question: Can anyone name some big men that have suffered similar injuries to Noel and have fully recovered? Does he have any chance at all?

Here's an article on that very issue. Haven't read it in full yet, but might shed some light for you:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1177651-10-nba-players-that-suffered-torn-acls-and-recovered-better-than-ever

Orium · Post #309 » by **Orium** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:47 pm

OrlandoMagician wrote:
Orium wrote:Question: Can anyone name some big men that have suffered similar injuries to Noel and have fully recovered? Does he have any chance at all?

Here's an article on that very issue. Haven't read it in full yet, but might shed some light for you:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1177651-10-nba-players-that-suffered-torn-acls-and-recovered-better-than-ever

Thanks

There's more hope for him than I thought

OrlChamps2030 · Post #310 » by **OrlChamps2030** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:52 pm

OrlandoMagician wrote:
Orium wrote:Question: Can anyone name some big men that have suffered similar injuries to Noel and have fully recovered? Does he have any chance at all?

Here's an article on that very issue. Haven't read it in full yet, but might shed some light for you:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1177651-10-nba-players-that-suffered-torn-acls-and-recovered-better-than-ever

Very interesting. Some notable bigs from this article: Harrington, Al Jeff, David West, and Jason Smith. Griffin came back from a microfracture Revisionist history would say that more mobile bigs come back better than oafs like Oden, Bynum, and Yao. Modern science also has greatly improved, quite simply I do not think that Scouts worry about the long term effects of torn ACL's the same way they worry about microfracture injuries.

Neon1 · Post #311 » by **Neon1** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:17 am

Orium wrote:Question: Can anyone name some big men that have suffered similar injuries to Noel and have fully recovered? Does he have any chance at all?

It's just an ACL people...Guys act like he had microfracture or something. It LOOKS much worse of an injury then it really is.

Driguez · Post #312 » by **Driguez** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:21 am

I'm not a fan of Smart from what I've seen so far. Noel has my vote.

thelead · Post #313 » by **thelead** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:44 am

Driguez wrote:I'm not a fan of Smart from what I've seen so far. Noel has my vote.

I Rasharted · Post #314 » by **I Rasharted** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:17 am

thelead wrote:
Driguez wrote:I'm not a fan of Smart from what I've seen so far. Noel has my vote.

Enough. We've seen the pic.

thelead · Post #315 » by **thelead** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:24 am

I Rasharted wrote:
thelead wrote:
Driguez wrote:I'm not a fan of Smart from what I've seen so far. Noel has my vote.

Enough. We've seen the pic.

I can't lie, I'm not loving anyone in the draft. That pic is just nasty :lol:

I Rasharted · Post #316 » by **I Rasharted** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:49 am

I'm not loving anyone either, but I'd still take Noel. Would love to know what Hennigan's thinking.

thelead · Post #317 » by **thelead** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:54 am

I Rasharted wrote:I'm not loving anyone either, but I'd still take Noel. Would love to know what Hennigan's thinking.

I think Hennigan goes with Noel if Smart disappoints in the tournament. That gives him another excuse to tank for Wiggins. It makes the most sense I guess.

Gives the team some time to showcase BBD and Harrington a bit more while we wait for Noel to get healthy. Then unload the vets a quarter of the way through the season and let the tanking begin again 8-)

I Rasharted · Post #318 » by **I Rasharted** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 2:11 am

thelead wrote:
I Rasharted wrote:I'm not loving anyone either, but I'd still take Noel. Would love to know what Hennigan's thinking.

I think Hennigan goes with Noel if Smart disappoints in the tournament. That gives him another excuse to tank for Wiggins. It makes the most sense I guess.

Gives the team some time to showcase BBD and Harrington a bit more while we wait for Noel to get healthy. Then unload the vets a quarter of the way through the season and let the tanking begin again

No but seriously that's probably his exact plan.

OrlandoMagician · Post #319 » by **OrlandoMagician** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:49 am

Looking at our schedule, we might only win 3 more games this season.

We've got games vs. Charlotte, Washington and Cleveland (and even then, they're not locks).

The rest are against playoff teams: OKC, Milwaukee, Indiana, NY, OKC, Miami, ATL, HOU, San Antonio, CHI, Milwaukee, BOS, CHI, Miami.

We're going to finish with a pick between 1 and 3, unless we get hellishly unlucky in the lottery.

G-Heel · Post #320 » by **G-Heel** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:11 am

thelead wrote:
I Rasharted wrote:I'm not loving anyone either, but I'd still take Noel. Would love to know what Hennigan's thinking.

I think Hennigan goes with Noel if Smart disappoints in the tournament. That gives him another excuse to tank for Wiggins. It makes the most sense I guess.

Gives the team some time to showcase BBD and Harrington a bit more while we wait for Noel to get healthy. Then unload the vets a quarter of the way through the season and let the tanking begin again

This would be the best scenario. If Noel ever become a dominant defensive player, he'd be more valuable than the rest of the players in this draft class even if he only score 10ppg.

Who should they take?