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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#701 » by RYgoBOOM » Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:21 pm

Gomagic44 wrote:His play last night was atrocious. I'm not a fan of his although I wanted reddick gone first. He was missing perfect shot setups. Wide open 3's where he had 3-4 seconds to get the best look. Chris f****ng duhon would have made those. Add that to his pointless dribbling, bouncing the ball off his own foot most games, and poor passing choices.

Yet Nicholson is benched for his lack of d? Why not bench afflalo for his crappy offense? I dont even want to check the stats. He missed like 12-15 shots last night.

I literally think I could play D on him.

His 4,959 head fakes and changes of direction are so annoying to watch.

It's really not hard to learn some new moves to free space or get to the basket.........
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#702 » by Gomagic44 » Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:37 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:
Gomagic44 wrote:His play last night was atrocious. I'm not a fan of his although I wanted reddick gone first. He was missing perfect shot setups. Wide open 3's where he had 3-4 seconds to get the best look. Chris f****ng duhon would have made those. Add that to his pointless dribbling, bouncing the ball off his own foot most games, and poor passing choices.

Yet Nicholson is benched for his lack of d? Why not bench afflalo for his crappy offense? I dont even want to check the stats. He missed like 12-15 shots last night.


Could you imagine if we end up drafting Mclemore and we all have to sit through an entire season of AA getting 36 minutes a game and our new rookie on the bench? It would be torture. At least now with JJ gone, there's no one else really since JV doesn't want to play Moe at the 2.


I would simultaneously vomit and cheer. It means wiggins or a top pick is that much closer.
I was more pissed because last night was my playoffs. And he sucked...not unusual but step it up for the fans mayne!
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#703 » by Gomagic44 » Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:47 pm

RYgoBOOM wrote:
Gomagic44 wrote:His play last night was atrocious. I'm not a fan of his although I wanted reddick gone first. He was missing perfect shot setups. Wide open 3's where he had 3-4 seconds to get the best look. Chris f****ng duhon would have made those. Add that to his pointless dribbling, bouncing the ball off his own foot most games, and poor passing choices.

Yet Nicholson is benched for his lack of d? Why not bench afflalo for his crappy offense? I dont even want to check the stats. He missed like 12-15 shots last night.

I literally think I could play D on him.

His 4,959 head fakes and changes of direction are so annoying to watch.

It's really not hard to learn some new moves to free space or get to the basket.........


I couldn't guard him, but others are learning. Just watch out for the turnaround to his left, aaaaaaamd he has no offense.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#704 » by Def Swami » Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:28 pm

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Brandon (Fl)
why is kelly olynyk not in your top 10,and what does he have to do

Chad Ford (1:22 PM)
He's at No. 15 on our Big Board and rising. Scouts want to see him play against better competition than what Gonzaga typically faced in the WCC. He'll get his chance in the NCAA Tournament. If he's as efficient there as he was all season for Gonzaga, I think he'll end up being a Top 10 pick.

Arthur (Arizona)
Would the Jazz draft Trey Burke is he was available? Would they draft Cauley-Stein as a 3rd big?

Chad Ford (1:23 PM)
I have the Jazz taking Burke at No. 14 in our Lottery Mock Draft Machine. Not totally sure he'll be there, but if he is, seems like a good fit. PG is a priority for them. Michael Carter-Williams is a possibility for them if he slides. I hear they also like Myck Kabongo and Lorenzo Brown a bit. Ditto for Nate Wolters. But 14 might be a little high for all of those guys.

Cory (US)
Hey Chad, what are you hearing from your NBA contacts about Nate Wolters?

Chad Ford (1:27 PM)
Lots of scouts secretly have a crush on him. He gets lots of Jimmer comparisons. If he were playing at BYU or an even bigger school, he'd probably be ranked much higher. If he has a big NCAA Tournament, I could see him sneaking into the first round.

Dalton (Louisiana)
What are you hearing about Myck Kabongo? Could a team like the Pelicans move into the late first to second round to pick him up?

Chad Ford (1:32 PM)
There are actually a number of teams who are really hoping he slides somewhere into the 20s or 30s. Had he played the whole year for Texas, might have been a lottery pick. Lots of GMs think he'll be a great value pick later in the draft.

Keith (NJ)
How high can Victor Oladipo actually go? top three? He really is great on both ends of the floor

Chad Ford (1:34 PM)
For sure Top 3. Who knows, he may end up going No. 1. His defense is obviously well ahead of his offense right now, but he's much improved as a scorer. Without an elite player at the top, teams start hunting for needs and Oladipo's extreme athletic ability and motor are appealing. I think he's this year's Michael Kidd-Gilchrist. You draft him that high based on the motor/intangibles and have faith the offense will work itself out.

DrGonzo (AZ)
The more I watch Michael Carter Williams the less I love him. I know NBA guys love big PGs, but can stay with the smaller, quicker guards in the league? Is his defense hidden by the 'Cuse zone?

Chad Ford (1:36 PM)
You sound like a lot of scouts I've talking to the past month ...

Tom (Austin, TX)
Will we see any international players drafted in the lottery this year?

Chad Ford (1:39 PM)
Dario Saric of Croatia has the best chance. 18 year old small forward who plays point forward. Great floor vision, basketball IQ. Needs to improve his jump shot. Is having just a so-so year in Cibona ... but then again he's 18 playing and starting on a first division team. If he was in college, he'd be a Top 10 pick. Reminds me a bit of a slightly better version of Kyle Anderson at UCLA.

Keith (NJ)
If Trey Burke has a memorable run in the NCAAs could he go top five or three?

Chad Ford (1:40 PM)
If he was a couple inches taller or a more explosive athlete? Yes. But his lack of height and elite quickness limit his ceiling. I think Top 10 for sure, but Top 5 seems to be a stretch. With that said, I really love his game. If he were quicker he'd remind me of a young Chris Paul.

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Would Otto Porter be the perfect fit for the Pistons?

Chad Ford (1:59 PM)
Any more it's hard to find a team that wouldn't love to have Porter. Cavs, Hornets, Pistons, Wizards, Kings, Suns, Mavs, Magic all VERY high on Porter. No way he slides to where Pistons are currently picking. They're going to have to get one of the Top 3 picks in the lottery.

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Post#705 » by BadMofoPimp » Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:45 pm

Imagine having (3) SF's at 6'8" in Harris/Harkless/Porter. I guess Vaughn can move Harkless to SG and Harris to PF to create a run n gun team. Just need a PG that can push the ball down court quick. Moore would do fine there. Just Joking!
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Post#706 » by Noonskadoodle » Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:45 pm

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Oklahoma State's Marcus Smart has hovered in the draft class' top 5 all season.
For the first time in a month, our Big Board is starting to stabilize a bit at the top.

After the top three, everything is pretty wide open. Although GMs still bemoan the lack of star power at the top of the draft, we've been saying for months that there's actually a lot of depth in this draft, and our Big Board emphasizes that.

Want a player who can turn around your team tomorrow? This isn't the draft for you. Want someone who could contribute for a decade? There are a lot of choices.

With the conference tournaments this week and March Madness right around the corner, there is still plenty of time to make major leaps up (or down) the board.

So here it is … our fifth Big Board of 2013.

1 Ben McLemore SCHOOL: Kansas CLASS: Fr. HT/WT: 6-5, 195 POS: SG
16.7 PPG 5.3 RPG 2.1 APG

McLemore continues to be a bit hit or miss, but when he's on … wow. His 36-point game against West Virginia last week was a model of efficiency. He shot 12-for-15 from the field, 5-for-6 from 3. And despite a blowout loss to Baylor, McLemore at least took 16 shots in that game and ended the game with 23 points. The biggest issue for McLemore is his inability to really go out and get his own shot. But if he ever figures that out, those Ray Allen comps don't seem too bad.

PREVIOUS RANKING: 1 | PLAYER CARD

2 Nerlens Noel SCHOOL: Kentucky CLASS: Fr. HT/WT: 6-11, 215 POS: C
10.5 PPG 9.5 RPG 4.4 BPG

Noel underwent surgery on his torn ACL on Tuesday. Famed NBA surgeon James Andrews performed the surgery. Although Andrews' credentials speak for themselves, the choice of Andrews also signaled to NBA teams that Noel was picking a surgeon all 30 GMs in the league have on speed dial. Assuming the rehab goes well, Noel continues to be a likely top-three pick and still has a shot at going No. 1 overall.

PREVIOUS RANKING: 2 | PLAYER CARD

3 Marcus Smart SCHOOL: OK St. CLASS: Fr. HT/WT: 6-4, 225 POS: PG
15.1 PPG 4.3 APG 41 FG%

Although Smart also continues to be a bit hit or miss, he has a penchant for playing his basketball in big games. He hit another home run Saturday in the Cowboys' upset of Kansas State. Smart had 21 points on 7-for-11 shooting. He grabbed 6 boards, dished out 6 assists and had 2 steals. He was everywhere. Although Smart is far from a finished product, if a team such as the Orlando Magic or New Orleans Hornets gets the pick, he has a great shot at going No. 1.

PREVIOUS RANKING: 3 | PLAYER CARD

4 Otto Porter SCHOOL: G'town CLASS: So. HT/WT: 6-8, 200 POS: SF
16.4 PPG 7.5 RPG 2.7 APG

We've had Porter in our top 10 all year, but in the past few weeks his stock has grown to the point that he now has a great chance to go in the top 5. The majority of GMs and NBA scouts I spoke with last week now had Porter rated ahead of Shabazz Muhammad as the top small forward on their draft board. With a number of teams in need of a 3 on draft night, Porter looks like a lock to go somewhere between No. 2 and No. 6. "He's the best pure basketball player in this draft," one NBA GM said. "He doesn't quite have the ceiling of some of the other guys, but those guys all have major holes in their games that could come back to haunt them. Porter is as complete as they come."

PREVIOUS RANKING: 6 | PLAYER CARD

5 Anthony Bennett SCHOOL: UNLV CLASS: Fr. HT/WT: 6-8, 240 POS: PF
15.9 PPG 8.1 RPG 1.0 APG

Bennett continues to suffer the side effects of a shoulder injury caused by sleeping on it weirdly. There seems to be no structural damage, it's more like a pinched nerve, but Bennett has struggled to play in the past few weeks and his production has plummeted. If he's fully healthy by the NCAA tournament, he really has a chance to put himself back in the conversation as the No. 1 pick.

PREVIOUS RANKING: 4 | PLAYER CARD

6 Victor Oladipo SCHOOL: Indiana Class: Jr. HT/WT: 6-5, 214 POS: SG
13.7 PPG 6.2 RPG 2.1 APG

The Oladipo bandwagon has finally stopped going 200 mph. In fact, he slid one spot in our latest rankings. He struggled with foul trouble and with offense for a few games before breaking out again with a very strong performance against Michigan on Sunday. Not everyone loves Oladipo. A number of scouts are more comfortable with him as a late lottery pick thanks to his unpolished offensive skills. But there are others who still see him as a potential No. 1 pick.

PREVIOUS RANKING: 5 | PLAYER CARD

7 Shabazz Muhammad SCHOOL: UCLA CLASS: Fr. HT/WT: 6-6, 225 POS: SF
18.3 PPG 5.1 RPG 41 3PT%

Muhammad continues to play hard and shows a knack to score. But it's become increasingly apparent to scouts that he really struggles to shoot off the dribble. If he gets his feet set, he's money, but when he tries to score on the move, his shooting percentages plummet. Coach Ben Howland said this week that Muhammad is leaving for sure for the NBA draft. If that's the case, he's going to need a huge tournament to propel his stock back into the conversation as the No. 1 pick.

PREVIOUS RANKING: 8 | PLAYER CARD

8 Cody Zeller SCHOOL: Indiana CLASS: So. HT/WT: 6-11, 210 POS: C
16.8 PPG 8.1 RPG 57 FG%

Zeller has been on fire of late. His last game of the regular season, a 25-point, 10-rebound effort against Michigan, was his best of the season. He showed off his ability to score in multiple ways and demanded the ball down the stretch in IU's toughest road game of the year. Scouts are still struggling to see how his game will translate, but he too could really help his draft stock with a very strong performance the next few weeks.

PREVIOUS RANKING: 9 | PLAYER CARD

9 Alex Len SCHOOL: Maryland CLASS: So. HT/WT: 7-1, 225 POS: C
11.8 PPG 8.1 RPG 1.9 BPG

Len has had his moments -- both for good (Kentucky, Duke) and for bad (such as his last game against Virginia). Many scouts blame the lack of strong guard play on the Terrapins this season. But others question whether Len has the toughness and drive to put Maryland on his back. For the first time all season, I'm hearing a chorus of scouts encouraging him to return to school for another year. With Maryland's chances of making the NCAA tournament slim, he's going to need a big ACC tournament to convince scouts one last time that he's ready for the NBA.

PREVIOUS RANKING: 7 | PLAYER CARD

10 Gary Harris SCHOOL: Mich. St. Class: Fr. HT/WT: 6-4, 210 POS: SG
13.2 PPG 2.4 RPG 42 3PT%

Sources say Harris is strongly contemplating returning to school for his sophomore year. His recent rise up NBA draft boards might give him pause, but a nagging shoulder injury and a desire to keep working on his game might ultimately persuade him to play one more year with the Spartans. Plans change, however, and if they do, he's a likely lottery pick.

PREVIOUS RANKING: 10 | PLAYER CARD

11 Michael Carter-Williams SCHOOL: Syracuse CLASS: So. HT/WT: 6-5, 175 POS: PG
12.5 PPG 7.6 APG 39 FG%

Syracuse's downward spiral hasn't helped Carter-Williams' stock much. His assist numbers have plummeted; his turnovers have increased; and, although he has shot the ball a little better from the field, he's still struggling to hit anything from beyond the arc. A number of GMs are still very high on his long-term potential, but he's already two years older than most of the players in his class. His age is holding teams back as much as anything.

PREVIOUS RANKING: 11 | PLAYER CARD

12 Trey Burke SCHOOL: Michigan CLASS: So. HT/WT: 6-0, 190 POS: PG
19.2 PPG 3.2 RPG 6.8 APG

Burke is pushing hard to be the second point guard off the board. His hyperefficient play -- as a scorer and as a passer -- has caught everyone's eye. If he were a little more athletic, I think we'd see a lot of Chris Paul in the type of game he plays. However, without the elite athletic ability, he probably can't catch Marcus Smart as the best point guard pro prospect in the draft.

PREVIOUS RANKING: 16 | PLAYER CARD

13 Alex Poythress SCHOOL: Kentucky CLASS: Fr. HT/WT: 6-7, 215 POS: SF
11.6 PPG 6.2 RPG 58 FG%

Poythress continues to drive us and everyone else in the NBA world crazy with his tantalizing athletic ability on one hand and a massively inconsistent drive on the other. We all want to love him, but he can make it so, so hard as his 7-PPG average over the past three games shows. The talent is there, but is the drive?

PREVIOUS RANKING: 12 | PLAYER CARD

14 Mason Plumlee SCHOOL: Duke CLASS: Sr. HT/WT: 6-10, 230 POS: PF
17.2 PPG 10.3 RPG 1.5 BPG

Plumlee is coming off one of his best games of the season, a 23-point, 13-rebound game against North Carolina on Saturday. That's the good news. The bad news? He just celebrated his 23rd birthday last week. For players 22 and older, the history of draft prospects isn't very encouraging.

PREVIOUS RANKING: 14 | PLAYER CARD

15 Kelly Olynyk SCHOOL: Gonzaga Class: Jr. HT/WT: 7-0, 238 POS: C
17.5 PPG 7.2 RPG 65 FG%

NBA scouts continue to warm on Olynyk as a potential lottery to mid-first-round pick. Olynyk has the top PER in college basketball (36.58) and the second-highest offensive rating (ORtg), at 125.8, of any player in the country who uses at least 28 percent of his team's possessions. Olynyk's size, agility and skill set are terrific for a 7-footer. The only knock on him has been the level of competition he has played against in a somewhat watered down West Coast Conference. If he can play with the same level of efficiency in the NCAA tournament, Olynyk has a chance to be a top-10 pick in this draft.

PREVIOUS RANKING: 22 | PLAYER CARD

16 Willie Cauley-Stein SCHOOL: Kentucky Class: Fr. HT/WT: 7-0, 220 POS: C
8.4 PPG 6.1 RPG 2.1 BPG

He's raw. So raw. But you can't teach many of the things Cauley-Stein brings to the table. He really should go back to school for another year under coach John Calipari. But if he comes out now, someone is going to gamble on his combination of length and agility in the first round.

PREVIOUS RANKING: 13 | PLAYER CARD

17 C.J. McCollum SCHOOL: Lehigh CLASS: Sr. HT/WT: 6-3, 190 POS: SG
23.9 PPG 2.9 APG 52 3PT%

McCollum finally is off crutches, and there was hope that he might be ready to play for Lehigh in the Patriot League tournament. Unfortunately, he wasn't ready to go in time for the semifinal game against Lafayette and Lehigh lost 82-69, effectively ending McCollum's college career. The good news for McCollum is that it sounds as if he'll be healthy enough to compete in the NBA draft combine and workouts in May.

PREVIOUS RANKING: 15 | PLAYER CARD

18 Dario Saric COUNTRY: Croatia Age: 18 HT/WT: 6-10, 223 POS: SF
8.4 PPG 4.9 RPG 1.8 APG

Although Saric's numbers don't scream lottery pick, he's an 18-year-old playing pro ball in the Adriatic league, and more and more GMs are returning from Europe with positive things to say about Saric. He played one of his better games of the year Sunday versus Olimpija, scoring 10 points, hitting 2 treys, grabbing 9 rebounds and dishing out 2 assists in a win for Cibona.

PREVIOUS RANKING: 17 | PLAYER CARD

19 Rudy Gobert COUNTRY: France AGE: 20 HT/WT: 7-1, 220 POS: PF
8.4 PPG 4.9 RPG 2.0 BPG

Gobert also isn't putting up numbers that should wow anyone. Unlike Saric, he isn't particularly skilled, nor does he have great basketball IQ. But his 7-foot-9 wing span and his shot-blocking abilities are drawing interest from scouts. He's a long way from being a productive NBA player, but, with a few more years in Europe, he could end up being a steal.

PREVIOUS RANKING: 18 | PLAYER CARD

20 Archie Goodwin SCHOOL: Kentucky CLASS: Fr. HT/WT: 6-5, 195 POS: SG
14.1 PPG 4.5 RPG 2.8 APG

Goodwin is one of the most difficult players in the draft to peg at the moment. The athletic ability, the speed and a penchant for finishing at the basket are all there. His shooting woes have abated a bit the past few weeks, as well. But the poor decision-making, slight frame and inconsistency all point to his needing at least another year under John Calipari at Kentucky. Barring a Cinderella run in the NCAA tournament, will he return to school for his sophomore year?

PREVIOUS RANKING: 19 | PLAYER CARD

21 Isaiah Austin SCHOOL: Baylor CLASS: Fr. HT/WT: 7-0, 215 POS: PF
13.6 PPG 8.8 RPG 1.6 BPG

Austin has really struggled to score the ball efficiently in Big 12 play. Since Jan. 30, he's had just two games in which he has shot better than 45 percent from the floor and only one game in that sequence when he has shot better than 40 percent from 3-point range. Given Austin's lack of strength to play in the post, he's going to have to bring those numbers up to get a serious look from scouts as a lottery pick.

PREVIOUS RANKING: 20 | PLAYER CARD

22 Jamaal Franklin SCHOOL: San Diego State Class: Jr. HT/WT: 6-5, 195 POS: SG
17.0 PPG 9.4 RPG 3.1 APG

Franklin continues to wow us with his rebounding ability for a guard. Over the past four games, Franklin is averaging an amazing 12 rebounds per game. Although his shooting stroke is still very much a work in progress, his defensive ability and his motor should land him a spot in the first round.

PREVIOUS RANKING: 21 | PLAYER CARD

23 Steven Adams SCHOOL: Pittsburgh CLASS: Fr. HT/WT: 7-0, 240 POS: C
7.1 PPG 6.2 RPG 2.1 BPG

Adams struggled through an ankle injury but seemed healthy enough in the Panthers' win over DePaul on Saturday. Although Adams has plenty of NBA suitors, sources say it's likely he's going to return to Pitt for his sophomore season.

PREVIOUS RANKING: 23 | PLAYER CARD

24 Glenn Robinson III SCHOOL: Michigan CLASS: Fr. HT/WT: 6-6, 210 POS: SF
10.9 PPG 5.5 RPG 1.2 APG

We've been waiting for Robinson to have a good game against an elite opponent, and that finally happened Sunday in Michigan's loss to Indiana. Robinson ended the game with 13 points and five rebounds. The talent Robinson possesses is undeniable, but he's still raw and needs more experience. It will be interesting to see what he decides to do about the NBA draft. A big tournament could push him back into the lottery discussion. A mediocre one might convince him he needs another year of school.

PREVIOUS RANKING: 25 | PLAYER CARD

25 James Michael McAdoo SCHOOL: UNC CLASS: So. HT/WT: 6-9, 223 POS: PF
14.6 PPG 7.6 RPG 1.2 APG

McAdoo has been playing center for North Carolina in Roy Williams' new small-ball starting lineup. It hasn't done anything to dramatically affect his efficiency, and he was dominated inside by Mason Plumlee against Duke on Saturday. Although McAdoo is showing some confidence with his face-the-basket game, he still looks a long way away from being a NBA contributor right now. The physical tools are there, but it looks as if he needs another year.

PREVIOUS RANKING: 24 | PLAYER CARD

26 Jeff Withey SCHOOL: Kansas Class: Sr. HT/WT: 7-0, 235 POS: C
13.6 PPG 8.6 RPG 4.0 BPG

Withey has been playing a hyperefficient brand of basketball of late, shooting 23-for-27 from the field in his past four while averaging more than four blocks and nine rebounds per game. He's not a sexy prospect, but Withey could have a long career in the NBA as a shot-blocker off the bench.

PREVIOUS RANKING: 27 | PLAYER CARD

27 Gorgui Dieng SCHOOL: Louisville CLASS: Jr. HT/WT: 6-11, 235 POS: C
10.3 PPG 10.1 RPG 2.6 BPG

Dieng is finally having the season many of us thought he might coming into the season. He has become a solid scorer around the basket, is doing a much better job of rebounding the ball and has the potential to be an elite shot-blocker. He's coming off one of his best performances of the season, a 20-point, 11-rebound, 5-block performance against Notre Dame. If he plays that way in the tournament and gets Louisville to the Final Four, he's going to be a lock for the first round despite his age.

PREVIOUS RANKING: NR | PLAYER CARD

28 Allen Crabbe SCHOOL: Cal Class: Jr. HT/WT: 6-6, 210 POS: SG
18.6 PPG 6.0 RPG 2.6 APG

Crabbe has the tools to be a lethal shooter/scorer at the next level. But NBA scouts are worried about his inconsistent effort on both ends of the ball. When he's dialed in, he's as dangerous as anyone in the country. But too often, he doesn't play with the intensity he needs to dominate the game.

PREVIOUS RANKING: 26 | PLAYER CARD

29 Patric Young SCHOOL: Florida Class: Jr. HT/WT: 6-9, 245 POS: C
10.5 PPG 6.2 RPG 1.7 BPG

Scouts continue to debate what type of player Young will be. He rarely puts up big numbers for Florida and is seen as just an average rebounder, but his tough defense and his explosive athleticism suggest that he might be a terrific role player on a veteran team.

PREVIOUS RANKING: 28 | PLAYER CARD

30 Tony Mitchell SCHOOL: North Texas CLASS: So. HT/WT: 6-8, 220 POS: SF
13.0 PPG 8.5 RPG 2.7 BPG

Mitchell's disappointing season came to an end Thursday with a loss to Louisiana-Lafayette in the Sun Belt tournament. Although his offensive woes continued, he did put up some strong rebounding and shot-blocking numbers in his last three games, averaging 12 boards and nearly three blocks per game over those last three. Mitchell said he's on the fence about whether to return to North Texas for another season. Given how much his draft stock has plummeted this year, I no longer think it's a foregone conclusion that he'll leave for the NBA.

PREVIOUS RANKING: 30 | PLAYER CARD

Next five in: Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Georgia; Kyle Anderson, UCLA; Myck Kabongo, Texas; Le'Bryan Nash, Oklahoma State; BJ Young, Arkansas
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Post#707 » by SEBAS-07 » Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:05 pm

Does anyone know the complete list of teams that have used their amnesty provision and on what players?
Smart / Micic / D. Wright
Wiggins / Exum / J. Adams
Parker / K. Anderson / Mcdermott
Randle / Vonleh / Stokes
Embiid / Nurkic/ Tavares
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Post#708 » by rcklsscognition » Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:08 pm

Thanks for that post. If you had one guy on the Magic you'd build around, who would it be? Vucevic, Harris, Harkless? Which prospect works best with said player? What if you designated 2 locks on our current roster, which prospect would work best with them? Vuc/Harris, Harris/Harkless, Vuc/Harkless?

We've seen what the defense can be when we have a legit 4 in there with Vucevic. Early on in the season we were a very good defensive team. When Davis went out, things went south. Bennett will be better than Glen Davis. If put in the position to draft him, would we move Nicholson?

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Post#709 » by Def Swami » Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:24 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:Imagine having (3) SF's at 6'8" in Harris/Harkless/Porter. I guess Vaughn can move Harkless to SG and Harris to PF to create a run n gun team. Just need a PG that can push the ball down court quick. Moore would do fine there. Just Joking!

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#710 » by Hotshot Hower » Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:19 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:Thanks for that post. If you had one guy on the Magic you'd build around, who would it be? Vucevic, Harris, Harkless? Which prospect works best with said player? What if you designated 2 locks on our current roster, which prospect would work best with them? Vuc/Harris, Harris/Harkless, Vuc/Harkless?

We've seen what the defense can be when we have a legit 4 in there with Vucevic. Early on in the season we were a very good defensive team. When Davis went out, things went south. Bennett will be better than Glen Davis. If put in the position to draft him, would we move Nicholson?

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I saw this video over a month ago and was gushing on Twitter about him. He'd be a perfect compliment to Vucevic and hasn't been playing great as of late but earlier in the season he was a "Top 5" pick. If he slides and we can somehow draft Smart and trade Affalo (and a future 1st) to the Wolves (or Suns) and he's there, without doubt Hennigan MUST draft this kid.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#711 » by rcklsscognition » Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:12 pm

What about Nicholson/Afflalo in a trade if we can net a PF in the draft with said pick? Too much? I really like Bennett and would gladly swap prospects.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#712 » by OrlChamps2030 » Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:17 pm

Bennett may have the most offensive upside in the draft but I'm not sure about taking him with our only Top 5 pick when Noel, Smart, and Oladipo are much better fits IMO. I see big things for this kid on offense though, he's like a more explosive, athletic, and fluid version of Paul Millsap.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#713 » by MagicFan32 » Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:18 pm

I would love to move Afflalo for a first, he is going to stunt the growth of this team

by the way, if Bennett reaches his potential he will be a big time player. packaging Afflalo and Nicholson to grab this kid is not a bad idea at all, i love his attitude on the court
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#714 » by Blue_and_Whte » Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:24 pm

I'm still in the Smart bandwagon and its good to see that Ford's comments support what I thought last week. That Burkes ceiling is low for reasons already stated. I could see Hennigan drafting either Porter or Smart. Imo those guys have intangibles that the front office looks for.

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#715 » by rcklsscognition » Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:25 pm

My hope is that someone that drafted close to us last year scoted Nicholson and liked him. You hear a lot of those stories, where teams had their eyes and scouts on a guy but couldn't pick him, then track him down a year or two later and grab him (like us with Harkless). Hopefully the Suns had their eye on him.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#716 » by WeAreVenom » Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:24 pm

MagicFan32 wrote:I would love to move Afflalo for a first, he is going to stunt the growth of this team

by the way, if Bennett reaches his potential he will be a big time player. packaging Afflalo and Nicholson to grab this kid is not a bad idea at all, i love his attitude on the court


Yeah, he's a little too trigger happy for a rebuilding team, imo......Still miles ahead of JRich though. Lol.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#717 » by thelead » Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:45 pm

VGOSWAMI wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:Imagine having (3) SF's at 6'8" in Harris/Harkless/Porter. I guess Vaughn can move Harkless to SG and Harris to PF to create a run n gun team. Just need a PG that can push the ball down court quick. Moore would do fine there. Just Joking!

Draft Andrew Harrison in 2014.

Harrison
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I'm calling it like I called Shabazz: from what I see, Harrison is not likely to be all-star material. We'll see when he gets to Kentucky though.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#718 » by recko321 » Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:37 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:What about Nicholson/Afflalo in a trade if we can net a PF in the draft with said pick? Too much? I really like Bennett and would gladly swap prospects.


What about Nicholson + whoevers 2nd we own
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Nicholson wouldn't look as bad on the 2nd unit when ibaka is in there and kevin Mart could resign on the low to stay with a contender. We fill that 2 hole they get offensive on the second unit.

Plus I recall henny saying Nicholson was on okc's board while he was working there.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#719 » by glennathan » Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:40 am

I think Nicholson could be good off our bench for a scoring punch so long as we have good defense on the bench to pair with him. I would not want to trade Nicholson if we can avoid it.

As for the draft, I would like us to get Marcus Smart if top 3 or Oladipo if outside top 3
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#720 » by silent1900 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 2:07 am

So....am I the only one thinking maybe we should sell high on Vuc this offseason? I haven't really been completely on his bandwagon all year, and the Laker game pushed me even further toward the belief that he is easily nullified when an opponent sets their mind to it (granted he was up against Dwight...but he looked sofffft out there).

*If* we decided to go that route (I know, we won't...but speculation thread and all) what do you think he would fetch?

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