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How Big Is Your Tank 

Post#1 » by hands11 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:01 am

http://espn.go.com/nba/standings/_/group/1

Only 4 games seperate the Wizards from the 11th/12th worst record in the league.

Upcoming next 4 games.

Home NO
Home PHX
Road CHA
Road PHX

We are currently tied with NO and PHX and 1/2 game behind CLE and DET
DET is on a 6 game losing streak. But we got some needed room on them by showing them tank.

After that they are somewhat in the clear with only a few more games against the bottom feeders

Road ORL
Home TOR
Road TOR

So Bradly, that ankle is still bothering your right bro ?

Here's hoping we see plenty of Cartier Martin next game.
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Re: How Big Is Your Tank 

Post#2 » by Knighthonor » Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:10 am

I have a question for you Wizards fans on this forum.

Do you want the wizards to lose out on a higher draft pick this season by winning the rest of the games, or do you want them to lose and get the high pick?
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Re: How Big Is Your Tank 

Post#3 » by BruceO » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:06 am

Knighthonor wrote:I have a question
for you Wizards fans on this forum.

Do you want the wizards to lose out on a higher draft pick this season
by winning the rest of the games, or do you want them to lose and get
the high pick?


Both options involve a loss of some sort so as a wizards fan i think we have that under control.

as far as how big is my tank? its short but devastatingly wide. and as fas as tanks go it has Jan Vesely type production
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Re: How Big Is Your Tank 

Post#4 » by AWIZZINGBULLET » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:22 am

Knighthonor wrote:I have a question for you Wizards fans on this forum.

Do you want the wizards to lose out on a higher draft pick this season by winning the rest of the games, or do you want them to lose and get the high pick?


Aren't you a Wizards fan?

I don't care about the pick when the Wizards have a lot working like last night against Milwaukee, I'd take any win over a loss if it is a meaningful win. If there is genuine growth from game to game then I'm all for the Wizards being rewarded with a victory. Let's say the Wizards were to beat up on the Thunder, Spurs, and Heat in consecutive games but then lay down four straight against the Cavs, Bobcats, Timberwolves, and Kings, then you better believe I'm back to rooting for the high draft pick because such losses say the Wizards still don't get it. It depends on what the Wizards are showing me at the time.

I understand getting a high pick allows for the adding of another major component to the team so I want there to be some distance between the Wizards and other losing teams who currently are positioned to pick within the top 10.

I'd prefer dominance every night but if they drop one it works in the team's favor still so I'm not real mad after I've gotten over the initial feelings that follow any loss.
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Re: How Big Is Your Tank 

Post#5 » by MikeTheKid » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:16 pm

Were honestly tanking for the 2nd pick and forward cause the Magic will get the 1st pick for the Dwightmare!!!
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Post#6 » by noworriesinmd » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:21 pm

The Wiz are bad at almost everything..so I expect us to work hard to get the 11th worst record in the league, because thats how we roll. 8 game win streak coming up!!!
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Post#7 » by nate33 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:16 pm

With the exception of Noel, the guys I really like in this draft are likely to be there in the 6-8 range so we probably don't need to tank too hard. If we play roughly .500 ball from here on out, we will probably pick 7th or so and be okay. It's a big help that McLemore and Smart should go top 5, and Zeller is probably up in the top 6 too. That's 3 guys are don't want. If we end up with any of Noel, Porter or Bennett, I'll be happy. Shabazz or Oladipo would be okay but I'm souring on Oladipo's ability to play much SF.

We just need to avoid any kind of crazy win streak. We don't want to win 13 of our last 19 games or anything like that. That could put us in the 9-12 range and there's a drop-off around there except for some underrated PG's that EG won't draft. We might have to reach for a project like Austin.

I guess we need to hope that Burke and/or Carter-Williams move up the charts after a strong NCAA performance. And maybe we'll get lucky and someone drafts Gobert high. A stupid team like Toronto might take him.
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Post#8 » by FAH1223 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 2:15 pm

MikeTheKid wrote:Were honestly tanking for the 2nd pick and forward cause the Magic will get the 1st pick for the Dwightmare!!!


Exactly. We have no shot at the #1 pick. The #1 pick is reserved for the captivating story line.

2010 - We got it after gun gate and Abe dying with his widow and Ted at the lotto
2011 - Cavs got it after the debacle of losing LeBron in Summer 2010... plus Dan Gilbert's son was there
2012 - Hornets got it after the NBA re-routed CP3 to the LAC instead of LAL for better compensation.
2013 - Magic will get it for the Dwightmare

It just makes sense.
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Post#9 » by montestewart » Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:39 pm

FAH1223 wrote:
MikeTheKid wrote:Were honestly tanking for the 2nd pick and forward cause the Magic will get the 1st pick for the Dwightmare!!!


Exactly. We have no shot at the #1 pick. The #1 pick is reserved for the captivating story line.

2010 - We got it after gun gate and Abe dying with his widow and Ted at the lotto
2011 - Cavs got it after the debacle of losing LeBron in Summer 2010... plus Dan Gilbert's son was there
2012 - Hornets got it after the NBA re-routed CP3 to the LAC instead of LAL for better compensation.
2013 - Magic will get it for the Dwightmare

It just makes sense.

It sounds good over the last three drafts, Maybe Stern is just trying to tie up loose ends before he leaves. Does such a conspiracy theory look plausible over the previous ten years?

2009 - Lakers have the largest market share, but with a huge untapped potential in LA for second team
2008 - Got to get another star to Chicago for a second dynasty

Previously there was a period of clever moves that create appearance of smaller market viability, while sending best players to other teams:
2007 - Oden creates appearance of new smaller market dynasty in Portland, while true best player (Durant) assigned to essentially league-made smaller market in OKC
2006 - Top pick assigned to Canada, while two best players (Aldridge, Roy) assigned to smaller market Portland
2005 - Top pick assigned to smaller market Bucks, league arranges for best player (Paul) assignment to smaller market Hornets

Prior to that, a run of strategically placed superstars:
2004 - League assigns best young center and future superstar Howard to Orlando as successor to Shaq in falling short and then going to Lakers
2003 - LeBJ assigned to Cavs to save franchise and play on local boy makes good narrative, knowing he will end up in a much larger market when the time is right
2002 - A Chinese superstar would attract a worldwide Chinese audience in any city, and assigning him to Houston revives a major market team on the decline

Prior to that, major market also-ran cover moves with ulterior motives:
2001 - We'll give MJ the #1 if he agrees to come back (much discussion about whether he would come back regardless of pick)
2000 - This is a horrible draft, might as well give the #1 to the Nets, who need to look more interesting so we can move them back to New York

If substantial and credible evidence of such a pattern of conspiracy were ever revealed (and plenty of journalists would love to break that story) you could add that to the Tim Donaghy affair (which by then might seem like the tip of the cheating/gambling referee iceberg), suspicious trades, some trades cancelled following physicals, where others that should have been cancelled were not, the league selectively overruling certain trades, and EG still having a job, and be left to wonder whether Vince McMahon is the true brain behind the NBA.

At some point, they'll add a team in Las Vegas (to balance out the one they add in Seattle). They'll wear silver sequined gold lamé uniforms. The cheerleaders will be topless. The parquet floor design will vaguely evoke table games. One dollar out of the price of every ticket will go into a pot randomly awarded to a fan at each game. The Las Vegas Dice. The Las Vegas 21s. The Vegas Craps. It will happen.

If the Wizards get the #1 pick, the likely outcome is that they choose Noel and, due to injuries, his career is somewhere between Ralph Sampson and Kwame Brown, while some players chosen between 6 and 12 turn out to be the top players from that draft. If someone else gets the #1 pick, Noel will probably end up on the HOF, and the Wizards will end up with some tweener type Mortimer Snerd because they're already set at all positions.
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Re: How Big Is Your Tank 

Post#10 » by AFM » Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:31 pm

Derrick Rose to CHI did it in for me. CHI had a 1.7% chance of getting the 1st pick, and they somehow got it and drafted Chicago native Rose.
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Re: How Big Is Your Tank 

Post#11 » by truwizfan4evr » Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:59 pm

Does it matter what number wizards pick from anymore? Long as wizards in top 10 in the lottery im happy with it. Getting a top 5 pick don't always mean you get a impact player some good player are late in the draft as history has shown.
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Re: How Big Is Your Tank 

Post#12 » by hands11 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:42 pm

nate33 wrote:With the exception of Noel, the guys I really like in this draft are likely to be there in the 6-8 range so we probably don't need to tank too hard. If we play roughly .500 ball from here on out, we will probably pick 7th or so and be okay. It's a big help that McLemore and Smart should go top 5, and Zeller is probably up in the top 6 too. That's 3 guys are don't want. If we end up with any of Noel, Porter or Bennett, I'll be happy. Shabazz or Oladipo would be okay but I'm souring on Oladipo's ability to play much SF.

We just need to avoid any kind of crazy win streak. We don't want to win 13 of our last 19 games or anything like that. That could put us in the 9-12 range and there's a drop-off around there except for some underrated PG's that EG won't draft. We might have to reach for a project like Austin.

I guess we need to hope that Burke and/or Carter-Williams move up the charts after a strong NCAA performance. And maybe we'll get lucky and someone drafts Gobert high. A stupid team like Toronto might take him.


I was on the VO bus but I'm seeing other I think the team would benefit from. VO is a great defender and seems to be a scrape scorer. I know I don't want Austin thought.

If we end up 10th, CJ McCollum would be a nice pick depending on who is still on the board. I'm liking the idea of Bennett at SF more and more. Back up SG is a huge hole right now so CJ would be awesome.

Thing about this draft is, there actually are a lot of players they could add that would help. The scary part is, EG picking later in a draft.

I still think Pierre would be a great back up PG for the team.
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Re: How Big Is Your Tank 

Post#13 » by Knighthonor » Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:57 pm

Hey what color is you all's tank?

I want gold and red color tank and name is Paladin/Lawbringer/Justicar
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Re: How Big Is Your Tank 

Post#14 » by hands11 » Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:19 am

Man I hate this time of the year.

Win or Lose and some won't be happy.
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Re: How Big Is Your Tank 

Post#15 » by pancakes3 » Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:13 pm

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Post#16 » by Knighthonor » Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:31 pm

hands11 wrote:Man I hate this time of the year.

Win or Lose and some won't be happy.

Well I would be mad to when Beal goes out there and breaks my Tank Train. I paid 10million $$ on that thing!!!
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Post#17 » by Knighthonor » Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:10 pm

John Wow
Bad Boy Beal

Both will mess up the 2014 tank train for Parker/Wiggins.

I say bench them or send them to the DLeague for half the season
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Re: How Big Is Your Tank 

Post#18 » by WizardsWorld » Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:23 pm

Ya with the way Wall has been playing and how horrible those teams like Detroit, Sacramento, Phoenix, etc are... we're looking at like a pick between 7 - 12. Ouch. Maybe this ill be the one year we get really lucky and jump into the top 3 ahead of the other teams.
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Re: How Big Is Your Tank 

Post#19 » by hands11 » Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:24 pm

Knighthonor wrote:John Wow
Bad Boy Beal

Both will mess up the 2014 tank train for Parker/Wiggins.

I say bench them or send them to the DLeague for half the season
:-)


Triple B.. Nice.

They should defiantly sent Wall to the DL. :lol:

I mean, if he is going to be all Super John then we already have that. Not to say we can't get more good stuff in this draft regardless but it is nice to have more options with a higher pick.

Man. Why couldn't Nene have just rested this offseason so he was ready to go to start the season.
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Post#20 » by WizarDynasty » Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:29 pm

yeah let's go on a win streak while the rest of the league tanks and get stuck with another Vesely instead of possibly enes kanter right now. Classic Wizard Move. We get nick young instead of thad. young. Because we choose to win games when they don't matter any more, yet when we are suppose to win games in the first third of the season we establish the worst records.
Makes no sense. This is the time to play Vesely, Booker, and Singleton. Winning now just ensures we wind up with another booker, singleton, or Vesely.
Sorry but Bennet is definitely worth tanking for. This guy is going to make Wall's, and Beal's day to day life 1000 times easier getting to the conference championship for the next ten years that isn't funny, but the lone time when you get a chance to get the championship your team needs, you superstar point guard all of sudden wants to ruin his chances of ever getting a championship ring. Wall, we know you are max player, how about you wait until next season to win games when our we won't ever ever get a chance to a get a lottery pick because the team is going to the playoffs for the next ten years straight. Wise up buddy. Give Vesely a few more chances to shoot and stop worrying about winning meaningless games that keep us from getting a another scorer that will help you win multiple championships and bring honor to the Washington DC.
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