Official Trade Thread XXII (2/6/13 - 4/1/13)

[gambitx777]

Well, I think the price will be to high, if there is a price at all. I doubt they have any want to move him. We should focus on players that we can get, like a Thompson, Kanter, or Monroue and focus on what else we can get with them.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

All of you guys are wrong if you think that Aldridge deal is a good one. You are swayed by points but his stats are largely empty. Per-36 they are practically a carbon copy of Antawn Jamison's. If Aldridge were better, he and Batum, Jamal Crawford, Wes Matthews would have won and not got Nate McMillan fired.

I'm just sayin'

He's a very good offensive player but you don't give up a lotto pick in this year's draft for LMA. That's crazy IMO.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Well, I think the price will be to high, if there is a price at all. I doubt they have any want to move him. We should focus on players that we can get, like a Thompson, Kanter, or Monroue and focus on what else we can get with them.

Every one of these players is a better idea than LaMarcus IMO.

What I think would be even smarter would be to try and get John Henson from the Bucks. He might turn out as good as Tobias Harris--the Bucks can be had in trades. Henson knows how to rebound, score, and block shots. I would rather have a guy like him in his prime than a player like Aldridge. Henson is playing behind Larry Sanders and it's weird because they are really similar. Seems to me they might be sold on Vesely and or Seraphin for Henson, because the Bucks are playing Gustavo Ayon and Epke Udoh minutes that should be going to Henson, exclusively.

I don't think the Wizards can get Thomson, Kanter, or Monroe; but I love all those players' potentials. I think the Wizards COULD trade for John Henson.

[nate33]

All of you guys are wrong if you think that Aldridge deal is a good one. You are swayed by points but his stats are largely empty. Per-36 they are practically a carbon copy of Antawn Jamison's.

A more efficient Jamison who defends at both PF and C is a very good thing. Jamison's problem was never his offense.

[WizardsWorld]

I like LMA.... he's a solid player... but I wouldn't give up the opportunity to draft Noel or Porter for LMA. At the point our two budding stars are I would rather have the younger guy to build with them then LMA who is quite a bit older than Wall and Beal. Noel or Porter would fit with what we should be trying to do much better.

[AFM]

I'm not sure Porter will ever be better than Aldridge. Noel? Maybe. I like Porter, but LMA is insanely talented.

[gambitx777]

I think that Kanter, Monroue, and Thompson are possible if we are willing to part with Wall.

[hands11]

All of you guys are wrong if you think that Aldridge deal is a good one. You are swayed by points but his stats are largely empty. Per-36 they are practically a carbon copy of Antawn Jamison's. If Aldridge were better, he and Batum, Jamal Crawford, Wes Matthews would have won and not got Nate McMillan fired.

I'm just sayin'

He's a very good offensive player but you don't give up a lotto pick in this year's draft for LMA. That's crazy IMO.

With their starting 5, you do have to ask why are they not better.

[gesa2]

I like LMA.... he's a solid player... but I wouldn't give up the opportunity to draft Noel or Porter for LMA. At the point our two budding stars are I would rather have the younger guy to build with them then LMA who is quite a bit older than Wall and Beal. Noel or Porter would fit with what we should be trying to do much better.

I agree with this, primarily because of the rookie wage scale. LMA is better than both of Noel and Porter now, and probably will be for at least 2 years, but the opportunity cost of a near max contract vs a good player on a rookie deal is significant. We might still have a chance to use cap space to make a deal or free agency move before we start paying for Beal and Wall, and we'd lose that chance with the deal.

[TheKingOfVa360]

I like LMA.... he's a solid player... but I wouldn't give up the opportunity to draft Noel or Porter for LMA. At the point our two budding stars are I would rather have the younger guy to build with them then LMA who is quite a bit older than Wall and Beal. Noel or Porter would fit with what we should be trying to do much better.

Me either, LMA isn't that good. He's an all-star (barely) type of player and his rebounding sucks. Also by the time Wall and Beal are in their primes, LMA will be in his 30's. We need to keep the pick and grab Noel or Porter to add to the core.

[Ruzious]

To anyone who seriously doesn't think LMA helps his team dramatically, Portland is 9 points better per 100 possessions with him than without him this season, 11.1 better last season, and 14.4 better the season before. Each of the above was the best on the team. The only thing negative is that he hasn't been as good as the previous 2 seasons. What big man would be significantly more effective than him at both ends of the court for the short and long terms?

[jivelikenice]

If The Bucks are serious about signing Redick for $8 mm per, maybe they'll be willing to part w/ Ilyasova?

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

To anyone who seriously doesn't think LMA helps his team dramatically, Portland is 9 points better per 100 possessions with him than without him this season, 11.1 better last season, and 14.4 better the season before. Each of the above was the best on the team. The only thing negative is that he hasn't been as good as the previous 2 seasons. What big man would be significantly more effective than him at both ends of the court for the short and long terms?

Aldridge helps (perhaps) dramatically at a cost. How good is he on the defensive end?

(Doing a little quick research, I found this from a couple months back):

http://www.blazersedge.com/2013/1/17/38 ... on-defense

According to the charting service Synergy Sports Technology, Aldridge gives us the second-fewest points per possession among players that have defended over 50 possessions. He's second only to Joakim Noah and ahead of lauded defensive players like Marc Gasol and Tyson Chandler. He's been more active with his hands, causing an increase in deflections before shots even go up. Aldridge says he's been disruptive but was often mistakenly called for fouls, though is reputation as a pest defending the ball is starting to catch on among officiating crews.

I still would rather take a chance on drafting Porter, a SF who can give triple doubles with assists; or Smart, a born leader and winner, or Olynyk a stretch PF/C on a rookie deal. Victor Olapido is a beast. Keep this draft pick! However, I am enjoying learning more about Aldridge and respecting his talent more.

I didn't know LMA could defend at all TBH.

[Ruzious]

To anyone who seriously doesn't think LMA helps his team dramatically, Portland is 9 points better per 100 possessions with him than without him this season, 11.1 better last season, and 14.4 better the season before. Each of the above was the best on the team. The only thing negative is that he hasn't been as good as the previous 2 seasons. What big man would be significantly more effective than him at both ends of the court for the short and long terms?

Aldridge helps (perhaps) dramatically at a cost. How good is he on the defensive end?

(Doing a little quick research, I found this from a couple months back):

http://www.blazersedge.com/2013/1/17/38 ... on-defense

According to the charting service Synergy Sports Technology, Aldridge gives us the second-fewest points per possession among players that have defended over 50 possessions. He's second only to Joakim Noah and ahead of lauded defensive players like Marc Gasol and Tyson Chandler. He's been more active with his hands, causing an increase in deflections before shots even go up. Aldridge says he's been disruptive but was often mistakenly called for fouls, though is reputation as a pest defending the ball is starting to catch on among officiating crews.

I still would rather take a chance on drafting Porter, a SF who can give triple doubles with assists; or Smart, a born leader and winner, or Olynyk a stretch PF/C on a rookie deal. Victor Olapido is a beast. Keep this draft pick! However, I am enjoying learning more about Aldridge and respecting his talent more.

I didn't know LMA could defend at all TBH.

Don't worry. Portland would laugh at the idea of trading him for the Wiz pick... before the click and dialtone.

I'm not sure I could begin to understand prefering Olynyk over LMA - even if Olynyk played for free.

[TGW]

If Aldridge was available for our pick—that's a no brainer. The Wizards have had too long a track record of skipping over proven commodities for the chance at taking a player they hope would be just as good.

[DCZards]

If Aldridge was available for our pick—that's a no brainer. The Wizards have had too long a track record of skipping over proven commodities for the chance at taking a player they hope would be just as good.

Agreed. Aldridge is an all-star quality player. He provides consistent scoring from a PF/C position. I'd take him over the hope that our draft pick is going to reach that level.

Having said that, as a longtime G'Town fan I'd love to see Porter in a Zard uni. He has the kind of all-around, old school game that will do well at the next level.

[gambitx777]

Well, yeah, but LMA is going to be far to expensive. I mean we should not trade our pick, Beal is untouchable and they have no need for wall. the thing that makes us able to make a run at Kanter, Monroue and Thompson is that all those teams are going to be looking for an upgrade at point guard.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Well, yeah, but LMA is going to be far to expensive. I mean we should not trade our pick, Beal is untouchable and they have no need for wall. the thing that makes us able to make a run at Kanter, Monroue and Thompson is that all those teams are going to be looking for an upgrade at point guard.

Agreed.

The whole point of a rookie deal, potential HOF player (or bust), is you don't even have to pay them for four years. LaMarcus Aldridge comes with a hefty price tag day one.

I cannot believe after the additions of Nene and Okafor that people on this board are ready to sign off on another near-30 year old player who makes over 13M over a draft pick that could become GREAT. I don't see adding Aldridge to team that loses all the darn time as the same as adding KG with Ray Allen to a player like Pierce. It's not the same as Pau coming to join Kobe, Bynum, and Artest. He's a good player but not a great.

Aldridge over even a player like Shabazz or Bennett does not make sense to me.

Aldridge had Camby, Andre Miller, Nicolas Batum, Jamal Crawford, and Wes Matthew as teammates and they didn't win JACK. I'm stunned at this stuff about giving up the lotto pick for Aldridge being a "no brainer".

[WizardsWorld]

And once again most importantly I'll make the point that once our two budding superstars start to enter their prime in 4 years or so.... they will both be around 23/24 years old and LMA will be 32 and probably starting his decline. Much rather bring in a 20 year old Noel or Porter to grow with Wall and Beal.

[payitforward]

...I cannot believe after the additions of Nene and Okafor that people on this board are ready to sign off on another near-30 year old player who makes over 13M....

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