Sam Cassell Retrospect: Hall of Famer?

JF5 · Post #1 » by **JF5** » Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:01 pm

He won 2 Titles, though he was a role player at that point (Did hit big shots). But afterwards he's been staples to contending teams like the Bucks/Clippers/Timberwolves.

Do you guys think he's a hall of famer?

kakaman · Post #2 » by **kakaman** » Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:04 pm

He's in my ET hall of fame

WhateverBro · Post #3 » by **WhateverBro** » Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:13 pm

JF5 wrote:He won 2 Titles, though he was a role player at that point (Did hit big shots). But afterwards he's been staples to contending teams like the Bucks/Clippers/Timberwolves.

Do you guys think he's a hall of famer?

He actually won three titles; one with Boston in 2008.

GeorgeDillion · Post #4 » by **GeorgeDillion** » Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:13 pm

He won 3 titles. Decent role player but not hall of fame worthy.

SVictor · Post #5 » by **SVictor** » Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:16 pm

Hall of the Very Good.

Tumakapac713 · Post #6 » by **Tumakapac713** » Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:23 pm

The HoF is becoming a joke. Cassell was a very solid player but the fact that somebody can pose this question and not get absolutely flamed for it says a lot about the current state of the HoF. This is not a dig at the OP at all, just at the HoF and the lax criteria they have now.

Cracklenuts · Post #7 » by **Cracklenuts** » Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:13 pm

Seems like every star to starter in the 90's will be inducted to the hall of fame eventually. There doesn't seem to be a standard.

Bertrob · Post #8 » by **Bertrob** » Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:36 pm

Really? A 1x All-Star and a 1x All-NBA 2nd team? He was a nice player but the HOF requires (or it should) a bit of individual accomplishment as well. Even if you question the validity of All-Star/All-NBA selections, Cassell never really made a mark on his era like most HOFers do on theirs

blackstar · Post #9 » by **blackstar** » Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:54 pm

GeorgeDillion wrote:He won 3 titles. Decent role player but not hall of fame worthy.

Sam Cassell a role player? Oh me oh my. Now I've seen it all. Unless you meant on those title-winning teams, then touche. But otherwise, you must be smoking some real good stuff or are just really young.

Cassell should be in the HOF. A top-level PG for most of his career, best midrange shot in the game, one of the best post-up PGs of all time, a very good role player on 3 title winning teams (one when he was 39), consistently led teams to plenty of playoff success (Bucks, Twolves, Clippers) as one of the franchises' cornerstones, turned around a perenially losing Clipper team and being the best player at the age of 36, and really received way fewer individual awards than he should have. If guys like Robert Horry get consideration for the HOF Cassell should be a lock.

XtotheDeezy · Post #10 » by **XtotheDeezy** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:01 am

He creates an illusion of him being right on the outside, but from an objective point of view...nah. E.T. don't have it all.

Post #11 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:12 am

blackstar wrote:
GeorgeDillion wrote:He won 3 titles. Decent role player but not hall of fame worthy.

Sam Cassell a role player? Oh me oh my. Now I've seen it all. Unless you meant on those title-winning teams, then touche. But otherwise, you must be smoking some real good stuff or are just really young.

Cassell should be in the HOF. A top-level PG for most of his career, best midrange shot in the game, one of the best post-up PGs of all time, a very good role player on 3 title winning teams (one when he was 39), consistently led teams to plenty of playoff success (Bucks, Twolves, Clippers) as one of the franchises' cornerstones, turned around a perenially losing Clipper team and being the best player at the age of 36, and really received way fewer individual awards than he should have. If guys like Robert Horry get consideration for the HOF Cassell should be a lock.

He is a role player. He certainly wasn't a star player. Robert Horry shouldn't get consideration either, if that's the argument, we should put in every player who played on a good team at some point in his career.

blackstar · Post #12 » by **blackstar** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:16 am

NO-KG-AI wrote:
blackstar wrote:
GeorgeDillion wrote:He won 3 titles. Decent role player but not hall of fame worthy.

Sam Cassell a role player? Oh me oh my. Now I've seen it all. Unless you meant on those title-winning teams, then touche. But otherwise, you must be smoking some real good stuff or are just really young.

Cassell should be in the HOF. A top-level PG for most of his career, best midrange shot in the game, one of the best post-up PGs of all time, a very good role player on 3 title winning teams (one when he was 39), consistently led teams to plenty of playoff success (Bucks, Twolves, Clippers) as one of the franchises' cornerstones, turned around a perenially losing Clipper team and being the best player at the age of 36, and really received way fewer individual awards than he should have. If guys like Robert Horry get consideration for the HOF Cassell should be a lock.

He is a role player. He certainly wasn't a star player. Robert Horry shouldn't get consideration either, if that's the argument, we should put in every player who played on a good team at some point in his career.

A role player doesn't get labelled as part of a big 3 (Bucks, Twolves), and become a team's best player at the age of 36. Honestly I would've expected more coming from a mod.

dolphinatik · Post #13 » by **dolphinatik** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:46 am

on Cassel I think it depends on who he us up against in voting on if he gets in. and no he was not a role player he ws ery much a star in this league. He played until he was old and in the later years he was a role player. But he is kinda like Stackhouse, was he career relevant enough. Maybe not.

DFolks · Post #14 » by **DFolks** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:04 am

Not sure if he's a HOFer but he definitely was more than a role player. He was real good for a long time.

420 · Post #15 » by **420** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:18 am

I wouldn't say HOF caliber, but the guy was a winner.

The only time the Rockets won their 2 titles in the Hakeem era was with Cassell.
KG hadn't made the 2nd round of the playoffs until Cassell arrived and helped take him to the WCF.
The Clippers made the playoffs after one of the longest droughts in history (if not the most) and reached the second round the same year they got Cassell.
In Boston, he helped KG get that elusive title and just like the Rockets, they haven't won a title since.

[RCG] · Post #16 » by **[RCG]** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:31 am

Not a HOFer.

SichtingLives · Post #17 » by **SichtingLives** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:40 am

GB knows who Sam Cassell is? Color me impressed.

twix2500 · Post #18 » by **twix2500** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:43 am

No Sam is not a Hall of Famer. He is in the Mark Price and Derek Harper class. Hell even Tim Hardaway is not in the hall of a Fame and he is a dream teamer.

deanwoof · Post #19 » by **deanwoof** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:45 am

Hall of famer? Sam cassell? I know he was solid but damn... Was he even the best player on any of his teams??

Post #20 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 3:05 am

blackstar wrote:A role player doesn't get labelled as part of a big 3 (Bucks, Twolves), and become a team's best player at the age of 36. Honestly I would've expected more coming from a mod.

Cassell didn't make the all star team when he was 36, or any all NBA team, but he was a better player than a guy who was on the second team, played 5 more minutes per game, and vastly outproduced him on both ends of the floor. Elton Brand was way better than Cassell.

The "big 3" argument is the stupidest thing I ever heard. The Wolves were 1 MVP candidate, a washed up Spreewell, and Cassell getting his first all star appearance and all NBA honors.

Being one of the 3 best players on a team doesn't make you a star. Put Cassell in the HOF, then start putting all the guys who were getting in the all star game and all NBA teams above him.

Cassell was a bench player (17 minutes and 23 minutes) on the two title teams with Houston, and a total negative in his 12 minutes per game(in the post season) in Boston's title run.

He was a non all star his entire career until one very good season where he got put next to a dominant MVP. He wasn't a significant presence on any title teams either like a Tony Parker or even Chauncey Billups.

Really good player, not a hall of famer in the least. I would expect more from someone that claims to have watched any significant amount of basketball.