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Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edition)

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#921 » by MagicHolland » Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:40 pm

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Orlando_Pride wrote:At this point all we can do is trust that our scouts will make the right decision for our future. Thus far they have not given any reason not to trust them. The draft will never be a guarantee. Everyone thought Davis will be a Franchise player and he still may be but at this point he isn't even the best player at his position on his team. Anderson keeps getting minutes over Davis. Okafor was suppose to be the best player without question from his draft and we all know how that ended up. Hopefully whoever we pick will pleasantly surprise us in 2014 (we do not want to get out of the Wiggins sweepstakes). I am on board for whoever could help us on defense the most, which seems to be Noel.


Sometimes, a superstar is not known while they are in College. Look at Dwayne Wade as he was the 5th pick in the draft while Darko was chosen before Wade and Bosh. Thus, you never know. Sometimes, it is up to the player, himself, with their desire and motivation to prove people wrong. There could still be a superstar in this draft, but that probably won't be known until they hit the NBA.


And that right there imo is the reason Hennigan has been a positive so far. I don't think I've ever heard anyone say "high character guy" as many times as Henny has done over the past year. He's looking for guys that have the right attitude to maximize their potential. Now he needs to find that exceptional talent with that very same attitude, and that's where it gets hard/tricky.

For example, take Wiggins.. Will he be Jordan/Lebron/Kobe or will he be VC/Tmac/Howard (off course all past Magic men :roll: )
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#922 » by rcklsscognition » Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:03 pm

We have 15 games to figure out our future PF situation, if we're set, we're drafting Smart. If it's iffy, we'll take Noel.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#923 » by BadMofoPimp » Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:24 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:We have 15 games to figure out our future PF situation, if we're set, we're drafting Smart. If it's iffy, we'll take Noel.


I am thinking that Smart won't be a PG in the NBA. Heck in the past three games, he has averaged 22 ppg 6.3 rpg and getting to the free throw line at a rate of 10 times per game. He is a SG playing PG due to height. But, I would still take him after McLemore.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#924 » by Orlando_Pride » Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:37 pm

I think are biggest asset is the huge TPE we have with many teams trying to get under the tax. Doesnt seem like any lottery will realistically give us a non protected 2014 pick (maybe except Jordan). Do you think Henny will use it to get another 2013 pick or simply to trade some of the veterans mainly Baby and Harrington to add cap space for 2014?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#925 » by MasterGMer » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:15 pm

Orlando_Pride wrote:I think are biggest asset is the huge TPE we have with many teams trying to get under the tax. Doesnt seem like any lottery will realistically give us a non protected 2014 pick (maybe except Jordan). Do you think Henny will use it to get another 2013 pick or simply to trade some of the veterans mainly Baby and Harrington to add cap space for 2014?



Really? Still more cap space? Why you need that much cap space? It is not like Lebron will end up here. Who can we possibly get through FA? Any one realistic and a super star? If not, i am not buying the FA.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#926 » by Orlando_Pride » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:56 pm

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Orlando_Pride wrote:I think are biggest asset is the huge TPE we have with many teams trying to get under the tax. Doesnt seem like any lottery will realistically give us a non protected 2014 pick (maybe except Jordan). Do you think Henny will use it to get another 2013 pick or simply to trade some of the veterans mainly Baby and Harrington to add cap space for 2014?



Really? Still more cap space? Why you need that much cap space? It is not like Lebron will end up here. Who can we possibly get through FA? Any one realistic and a super star? If not, i am not buying the FA.


Thats was my thought. So what realistic pick or trade can we get that would make sense for our team? Maybe a mid 2014 pick, a young player like Bledsoe, or a backup big.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#927 » by toquito » Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:24 pm

Orlando_Pride wrote:
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Orlando_Pride wrote:I think are biggest asset is the huge TPE we have with many teams trying to get under the tax. Doesnt seem like any lottery will realistically give us a non protected 2014 pick (maybe except Jordan). Do you think Henny will use it to get another 2013 pick or simply to trade some of the veterans mainly Baby and Harrington to add cap space for 2014?



Really? Still more cap space? Why you need that much cap space? It is not like Lebron will end up here. Who can we possibly get through FA? Any one realistic and a super star? If not, i am not buying the FA.


Thats was my thought. So what realistic pick or trade can we get that would make sense for our team? Maybe a mid 2014 pick, a young player like Bledsoe, or a backup big.

TPE for Boozer or Amare. We already might get the knicks pick next year so they'd have to give us a 2016. Bulls could give us this years or next years. Anyways if we get one of those guys(preferably boozer) he could help tutor our youngins, then we trade his ass again for more picks when hes expiring
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#928 » by G-Heel » Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:48 pm

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Thats was my thought. So what realistic pick or trade can we get that would make sense for our team? Maybe a mid 2014 pick, a young player like Bledsoe, or a backup big.

TPE for Boozer or Amare. We already might get the knicks pick next year so they'd have to give us a 2016. Bulls could give us this years or next years. Anyways if we get one of those guys(preferably boozer) he could help tutor our youngins, then we trade his ass again for more picks when hes expiring


I don't mean this offensively.. but taking Booz or Amare seems like a stupid idea to me.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#929 » by magicman123 » Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:01 pm

why would we want Amare or Boozer? that goes against everything Henny is trying to do
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Post#930 » by toquito » Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:05 pm

^^ I agree it's stupid. But if i understand the rules correctly only a single player can be involved in a trade with a tpe. If that's true then what can we get with a 17 million tpe besides overpaid bad contracts? Unless say the overpaid bad contract went to a 3rd team. Then were getting somewhere
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Post#931 » by BadMofoPimp » Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:09 pm

Dudes. We can use part of the TPE on one player in a straight up trade. Then, make a seperate trade for another player with the remaining TPE.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#932 » by toquito » Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:15 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:Dudes. We can use part of the TPE on one player in a straight up trade. Then, make a seperate trade for another player with the remaining TPE.

OMG. I've been thinking for like 2 years all we could get was Amare. Forget everything i said then
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#933 » by KillMonger » Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:36 pm

wow people here would actually take Mclemore before Smart? The J-Rich clone? i want no part of that i'd rather trade down than draft Mclemore
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#934 » by Def Swami » Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:56 pm

Bobby Ray wrote:wow people here would actually take Mclemore before Smart? The J-Rich clone? i want no part of that i'd rather trade down than draft Mclemore

If he develops his passing, which he should if he plans to be a lethal shooter in the NBA, I think he can be a better version of JJ Redick.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#935 » by Dunkin On Ya » Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:19 pm

My perfect scenario would be to use our TPE to get our shooting guard of the future. Use the TPE to acquire Perkins and Lamb from OKC, Gortat to OKC, Nicholson and O'Quinn to Phoenix.

OKC gets a center who can contribute. Phoenix gains more cap space and a couple assets. Orlando gets their SG of the future and Perkins comes off the books in 2 years.

But I'm a real estate broker and not a GM...
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#936 » by KillMonger » Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:43 pm

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Bobby Ray wrote:wow people here would actually take Mclemore before Smart? The J-Rich clone? i want no part of that i'd rather trade down than draft Mclemore

If he develops his passing, which he should if he plans to be a lethal shooter in the NBA, I think he can be a better version of JJ Redick.

maybe, IDK i just have to watch him a bit more. I just don't like the fact that he's suppose to be a big time player but disappears way too much for my liking. Can't create his own shot either, that being said he's talented as all hell.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#937 » by Def Swami » Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:07 am

Bobby Ray wrote:
VGOSWAMI wrote:
Bobby Ray wrote:wow people here would actually take Mclemore before Smart? The J-Rich clone? i want no part of that i'd rather trade down than draft Mclemore

If he develops his passing, which he should if he plans to be a lethal shooter in the NBA, I think he can be a better version of JJ Redick.

maybe, IDK i just have to watch him a bit more. I just don't like the fact that he's suppose to be a big time player but disappears way too much for my liking. Can't create his own shot either, that being said he's talented as all hell.

I think other players have a higher ceiling. He's a safe pick imo.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LII "Lottery/Draft" Edit 

Post#938 » by PeePee la Fritz » Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:20 am

Is it wrong I want nothing to do with a top 3 pick this year. I honestly hope we slide to 4-5 and make the decision that much easier (Oladipo, or someone who slides) and be terrible one more year and land the 1 or 2 in 2014. Odds of getting consecutive number 1s is super low, and takes the pressure off this years draft pick to be a franchise savior.
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Post#939 » by Gomagic44 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:27 am

I don't think that 1-3 will have a much larger impact for us than 4-7. What's the dIfference? We suck so much more than 1 player can cure.
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Post#940 » by G-Heel » Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:28 am

PeePee la Fritz wrote:Is it wrong I want nothing to do with a top 3 pick this year. I honestly hope we slide to 4-5 and make the decision that much easier (Oladipo, or someone who slides) and be terrible one more year and land the 1 or 2 in 2014. Odds of getting consecutive number 1s is super low, and takes the pressure off this years draft pick to be a franchise savior.


There's absolutely no reason to want a lower pick, at least none I can think of. If we don't want any top players then trade down, or at worse reach for the players you want.
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