Around the nba part 6

[sidestep]

Would love nothing more than the Bucks to totally upset the Heat.

Out of nowhere, BOTH Monta Ellis and Brandon Jennings are being pretty efficient and highly productive, guys like Redick, Illyasova, and Dunleavy are lighting it up from three and scoring in double figures, Sanders is dominating the paint on the defensive end, and then Prince Mbah a Moute is the glue/defensive wing for them.

I mean, while it's most likely a sweep, the Bucks present more than plenty matchup problems for the Heat.

Heat are vulnerable from 3pt line, so an upset like that isn't perhaps insane. 4 games out of 7 though...

That 25pt (!) 4th quarter performance by Ellis against the Magic was one of the best I've seen the whole season. Wow. And I was never an Ellis fan before, but this recent stretch, he's been killing it.

[GettinitDone]

Toney has been killing teams this season. We still could have had him.

Nuggets' problem is they don't play plays (Karl said this himself)... they just go out and run. I guess they'll go far in playoffs, like WCF, especially if injuries to TP, and Ginobili getting old affecting the Spurs' chemistry come playoffs time. But not having drawn plays will be the Nuggets' shortcoming if they play teams who can stop their fastbreak... I've followed the team since Melo's rookie year, this is by far the most explosive open court scoring Nuggets team I've seen. They haven't changed anything, but the biggest difference this year from years past is their ability to rebound the ball. Nugs fans gotta send flowers, thanks cards to Faried, he's their reason and their only difference maker why they went from below-average rebounding team to very good/ excellent rebounding team. Once they get rebound, their wings are already near halfcourt, and their guards are pushing it. In the past, Nene and KMart combined to be physical, but they barely contributed in the rebounding column. Nene had so many 4-6 rebounding nights... Faried is almost guaranteed to give double-digit... he's the reason why they can live up to their highest potential in relative to GK's coaching philosophy of pushing the tempo.

Now that we've traded players with Denver, can we trade coaches (Wood for GK) too?

[Rasho Brezec]

Annoying how badly Denver took us to the cleaners in that trade.

denver is winning games without any significant contribution from the pieces we gave up.

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

[Pharmcat]

We not only **** up in the Melo trade, but we **** up by not taking a PG, and who knows if we would have drafted Shumpert over Faried if Wilson and Gallo are here. It's a series of events that led to the **** we're in.

lots of it goes back to that 09 draft blunder by walsh.....so many PGs in that draft, had he scored on that pick, then the amount ny gave up in a future trade (whether HOU or DEN) wouldve been less since that pick wouldve had more value than jordan hill, who turned out to be more of a throw in the HOU trade

its amazing how much that blunder cost NY

[kane2021]

Jennings blew up his rookie year. Imagine under dantoni on that team? Who knows maybe we could have moved curry instead with Jennings.

I didnt like Jennings but if all we was going to do was use the player we drafted to make more cap space we should have drafted someone who could make more noise.

Hill didnt even get off the bench until around the deadline. And i suspect that was an order to showcase him.

I really think we drafted gallo for dantoni and walsh wanted lopez more. I think hill was a makeup pick for passing on a big man the year prior. Just speculation.

[GONYK]

Jennings blew up his rookie year. Imagine under dantoni on that team? Who knows maybe we could have moved curry instead with Jennings.

I didnt like Jennings but if all we was going to do was use the player we drafted to make more cap space we should have drafted someone who could make more noise.

Hill didnt even get off the bench until around the deadline. And i suspect that was an order to showcase him.

I really think we drafted gallo for dantoni and walsh wanted lopez more. I think hill was a makeup pick for passing on a big man the year prior. Just speculation.

We drafted Hill because we needed insurance in case we lost Lee and didn't get a big man.

[seren]

Jennings blew up his rookie year. Imagine under dantoni on that team? Who knows maybe we could have moved curry instead with Jennings.

I didnt like Jennings but if all we was going to do was use the player we drafted to make more cap space we should have drafted someone who could make more noise.

Hill didnt even get off the bench until around the deadline. And i suspect that was an order to showcase him.

I really think we drafted gallo for dantoni and walsh wanted lopez more. I think hill was a makeup pick for passing on a big man the year prior. Just speculation.

We drafted Hill because we needed insurance in case we lost Lee and didn't get a big man.

Such a terrible excuse for a lottery pick. Has anyone had any success from lottery by drafting a need?

[kane2021]

Jennings blew up his rookie year. Imagine under dantoni on that team? Who knows maybe we could have moved curry instead with Jennings.

I didnt like Jennings but if all we was going to do was use the player we drafted to make more cap space we should have drafted someone who could make more noise.

Hill didnt even get off the bench until around the deadline. And i suspect that was an order to showcase him.

I really think we drafted gallo for dantoni and walsh wanted lopez more. I think hill was a makeup pick for passing on a big man the year prior. Just speculation.

We drafted Hill because we needed insurance in case we lost Lee and didn't get a big man.

Im old school so i always look at big men first. I think its vital. But after taking one look at hills face i would have passed. I saw nothing in that young mans eyes or personality that made me feel he possessed the will to take his natural tools and impose himself on the nba level.

Its old news im not crying over it. Walsh was patient and steady in his approach. Hindsight is 2020 but i think we missed both opportunities to draft in a manner to improve the team regardless of the long term plan.

Correct me if im wrong. But didnt we try to trade up for mayo? And didnt we just wait for curry to fall into our lap? I think walsh even commented on missing on Jennings.

Not complaining just fun to look back.

[seren]

We not only **** up in the Melo trade, but we **** up by not taking a PG, and who knows if we would have drafted Shumpert over Faried if Wilson and Gallo are here. It's a series of events that led to the **** we're in.

lots of it goes back to that 09 draft blunder by walsh.....so many PGs in that draft, had he scored on that pick, then the amount ny gave up in a future trade (whether HOU or DEN) wouldve been less since that pick wouldve had more value than jordan hill, who turned out to be more of a throw in the HOU trade

its amazing how much that blunder cost NY

It is crazy that one draft produced so many quality PGs and we passed on one for a bust big man.

[GONYK]

Jennings blew up his rookie year. Imagine under dantoni on that team? Who knows maybe we could have moved curry instead with Jennings.

I didnt like Jennings but if all we was going to do was use the player we drafted to make more cap space we should have drafted someone who could make more noise.

Hill didnt even get off the bench until around the deadline. And i suspect that was an order to showcase him.

I really think we drafted gallo for dantoni and walsh wanted lopez more. I think hill was a makeup pick for passing on a big man the year prior. Just speculation.

We drafted Hill because we needed insurance in case we lost Lee and didn't get a big man.

Im old school so i always look at big men first. I think its vital. But after taking one look at hills face i would have passed. I saw nothing in that young mans eyes or personality that made me feel he possessed the will to take his natural tools and impose himself on the nba level.

Its old news im not crying over it. Walsh was patient and steady in his approach. Hindsight is 2020 but i think we missed both opportunities to draft in a manner to improve the team regardless of the long term plan.

Correct me if im wrong. But didnt we try to trade up for mayo? And didnt we just wait for curry to fall into our lap? I think walsh even commented on missing on Jennings.

Not complaining just fun to look back.

Mayo was the Gallo year.

We tried to trade up to get ahead of Minny, but that didn't work out. We then anticipated getting Curry, since there were 3 PG's available and GSW never even had him in for a workout.

Minny took 2 PG's and GSW took Curry. We then picked for need instead of slightly reaching and taking Jennings, Lawson, or Holliday. I don't even think Jrue was on our radar TBH.

And I also don't think Donnie "missed" on Jennings like he claims. We worked the kid out 3 times, including one secret one 2 days before the draft, and still passed.

[K_ick_God]

Annoying how badly Denver took us to the cleaners in that trade.

denver is winning games without any significant contribution from the pieces we gave up.

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Gallo is certainly contributing and having a good season. But you must admit that 4-17 is not going to get it done if he wants to be a really good player. He does do a lot out there I admit. And his shooting has been better this year too. But the 3-10 type games are not as uncommon as they should be.

[seren]

Gallo is certainly contributing and having a good season. But you must admit that 4-17 is not going to get it done if he wants to be a really good player. He does do a lot out there I admit. And his shooting has been better this year too. But the 3-10 type games are not as uncommon as they should be.

For the last two months, Melo is averaging 38 percent from the field. He had 6 games where he shoot below 28 percent.

[j4remi]

Gallo is certainly contributing and having a good season. But you must admit that 4-17 is not going to get it done if he wants to be a really good player. He does do a lot out there I admit. And his shooting has been better this year too. But the 3-10 type games are not as uncommon as they should be.

For the last two months, Melo is averaging 38 percent from the field. He had 6 games where he shoot below 28 percent.

Am I safe in assuming you're one of the folks that thinks Melo has been faking injuries and lying about them? Otherwise, I think the comparison is crap when you have one healthy player and one injured.

[postcall]

Gallo is certainly contributing and having a good season. But you must admit that 4-17 is not going to get it done if he wants to be a really good player. He does do a lot out there I admit. And his shooting has been better this year too. But the 3-10 type games are not as uncommon as they should be.

For the last two months, Melo is averaging 38 percent from the field. He had 6 games where he shoot below 28 percent.

Am I safe in assuming you're one of the folks that thinks Melo has been faking injuries and lying about them? Otherwise, I think the comparison is crap when you have one healthy player and one injured.

umm i think you made your opinion

[K_ick_God]

Gallo is certainly contributing and having a good season. But you must admit that 4-17 is not going to get it done if he wants to be a really good player. He does do a lot out there I admit. And his shooting has been better this year too. But the 3-10 type games are not as uncommon as they should be.

For the last two months, Melo is averaging 38 percent from the field. He had 6 games where he shoot below 28 percent.

Melo is shooting poorly. What does one thing have to do with the other? Melo's career FG% is not .418 which is Gallo's number.

[seren]

Gallo is certainly contributing and having a good season. But you must admit that 4-17 is not going to get it done if he wants to be a really good player. He does do a lot out there I admit. And his shooting has been better this year too. But the 3-10 type games are not as uncommon as they should be.

For the last two months, Melo is averaging 38 percent from the field. He had 6 games where he shoot below 28 percent.

Am I safe in assuming you're one of the folks that thinks Melo has been faking injuries and lying about them? Otherwise, I think the comparison is crap when you have one healthy player and one injured.

You are absolutely not safe. Not at all.

I am one of the guys who think that even the best guys in the league can have plenty of bad shooting nights and that in itself can not be a way to judge a player.

Gallinari has a shooting efficiency of .496 compared to Melo's 0.493 for the season. He gets 1.303 points per shot compared to Melo's 1.283.

[K_ick_God]

You are absolutely not safe. Not at all.

I am one of the guys who think that even the best guys in the league can have plenty of bad shooting nights and that in itself can not be a way to judge a player.

Gallinari has a shooting efficiency of .496 compared to Melo's 0.493 for the season. He gets 1.303 points per shot compared to Melo's 1.283.

That's not the whole story. In crunch time, and I'm talking playoff crunch time, Gallo will draw fewer fouls. His ability to simply knock down shots is going to matter more than the efficiency and true shooting numbers tell you.

[Falstaffxx]

You are absolutely not safe. Not at all.

I am one of the guys who think that even the best guys in the league can have plenty of bad shooting nights and that in itself can not be a way to judge a player.

Gallinari has a shooting efficiency of .496 compared to Melo's 0.493 for the season. He gets 1.303 points per shot compared to Melo's 1.283.

That's not the whole story. In crunch time, and I'm talking playoff crunch time, Gallo will draw fewer fouls. His ability to simply knock down shots is going to matter more than the efficiency and true shooting numbers tell you.

I don't think anyone would argue Gallinari is a better player than Anthony.

[j4remi]

You are absolutely not safe. Not at all.

I am one of the guys who think that even the best guys in the league can have plenty of bad shooting nights and that in itself can not be a way to judge a player.

Gallinari has a shooting efficiency of .496 compared to Melo's 0.493 for the season. He gets 1.303 points per shot compared to Melo's 1.283.

That's not the whole story. In crunch time, and I'm talking playoff crunch time, Gallo will draw fewer fouls. His ability to simply knock down shots is going to matter more than the efficiency and true shooting numbers tell you.

It's also missing the whole "Melo hasn't been healthy since Christmas" part.

[K_ick_God]

You are absolutely not safe. Not at all.

I am one of the guys who think that even the best guys in the league can have plenty of bad shooting nights and that in itself can not be a way to judge a player.

Gallinari has a shooting efficiency of .496 compared to Melo's 0.493 for the season. He gets 1.303 points per shot compared to Melo's 1.283.

That's not the whole story. In crunch time, and I'm talking playoff crunch time, Gallo will draw fewer fouls. His ability to simply knock down shots is going to matter more than the efficiency and true shooting numbers tell you.

I don't think anyone would argue Gallinari is a better player than Anthony.

I'm not even talking about Melo though. I just think that Gallo is an interesting player to analyze. I think he's clumsy and has a hard time finishing, and his jumper is not good enough, and he does not have a lot of in-between moves. That said, he's a smart player who can really defend and does some dirtywork. Plus he can be clutch. He picks his spots well.

Will he take the next step? I think it comes down to making shots mostly, and doing it in the playoffs. Ironically, shooting is his question mark. But on 3PT%, he's had a very good year.