Utah Jazz @ Houston Rockets

[StocktonShorts]

Jefferson had nothing to do with Lin and later Harden penatrating the lane with ease. People focus on Al to much instead of the guys letting these guards collapse our defense.

yep. it's a team effort though, so he's not blameless.

He certainly is part of the blame but thats the thing, part of the blame. Its always blame Al when things go wrong. If one guy is killing your defense then you got bigger issues.

Loozer don't stop the bulls so why should Al stop the Jazz?

In retrospect, Boozer was far better with the Jazz than Al has been. Can anyone really argue otherwise?

[Inigo Montoya]

Jefferson had nothing to do with Lin and later Harden penatrating the lane with ease. People focus on Al to much instead of the guys letting these guards collapse our defense.

yep. it's a team effort though, so he's not blameless.

He certainly is part of the blame but thats the thing, part of the blame. Its always blame Al when things go wrong. If one guy is killing your defense then you got bigger issues.

Loozer don't stop the bulls so why should Al stop the Jazz?

dude, i'm agreeing with you. keep fighting the good fight.

[reapaman]

I just saw a lot of Al tonight NOT MOVING ONE INCH after the guard got in the paint. Forget for a moment how or why the guard got in the paint, once he gets there, Al, as the center -- nah, hell as ANY player on the defensive team -- has an obligation to try to prevent him from scoring, and he just WATCHES.

It's infuriating.

Well I guess we just care about different things, which is fine. You care about what ultimately happened and I care about how did that result happen in the first place.

We will just agree to disagree.

dude, i'm agreeing with you. keep fighting the good fight.

I know that, I'm just extending your point.

[Inigo Montoya]

In retrospect, Boozer was far better with the Jazz than Al has been. Can anyone really argue otherwise?

booz had dwill for many seasons. big al had deron and a HOF coach for half a season. then he got corbin as a rookie coach and mo freakin' williams.

[StocktonShorts]

I just saw a lot of Al tonight NOT MOVING ONE INCH after the guard got in the paint. Forget for a moment how or why the guard got in the paint, once he gets there, Al, as the center -- nah, hell as ANY player on the defensive team -- has an obligation to try to prevent him from scoring, and he just WATCHES.

It's infuriating.

Well I guess we just care about different things, which is fine. You care about what ultimately happened and I care about how did that result happen in the first place.

We will just agree to disagree.

In today's NBA, with no hand-checking, there are VERY few guards who can stop a great dribble penetrator single-handedly. We certainly don't have one of those guys.

What we do have is a guy who is a defensive stud and can protect the rim.

[StocktonShorts]

In retrospect, Boozer was far better with the Jazz than Al has been. Can anyone really argue otherwise?

booz had dwill for many seasons. big al had deron and a HOF coach for half a season. then he got corbin as a rookie coach and mo freakin' williams.

You're free to make those excuses for him; I see Al as a player that will never mesh with other good offensive players around him while being a liability on the defensive end. Boozer has shown on two teams now that he plays good enough team basketball for his team to be successful.

[Inigo Montoya]

In today's NBA, with no hand-checking, there are VERY few guards who can stop a great dribble penetrator single-handedly. We certainly don't have one of those guys.

What we do have is a guy who is a defensive stud and can protect the rim.

is that what we have? i thought he is just an expensive way to keep the bench warm. smh.

on a side note - KOC was asked about the poor defense the jazz are showing on his latest interview:

http://1280thezone.com/index.php/audio/listen/the_big_show_kevin_oconnor_utah_jazz_senior_executive

his answer was that it is because we are a young inexperienced team. i really didn't appreciate this answer. like it's the young players fault. the bench guys, who play limited minutes, and not the vets who play most of the minutes and dig a hole for the bench to climb out of every single game. that really pissed me off. not cool.

[StocktonShorts]

^^ Ugh. The less we hear from KOC the better. I really hope this is the summer of Dennis Lindsey, because he's the only guy in a leadership position in this franchise I have any faith in (and that may just be from ignorance).

[Inigo Montoya]

In retrospect, Boozer was far better with the Jazz than Al has been. Can anyone really argue otherwise?

booz had dwill for many seasons. big al had deron and a HOF coach for half a season. then he got corbin as a rookie coach and mo freakin' williams.

You're free to make those excuses for him; I see Al as a player that will never mesh with other good offensive players around him while being a liability on the defensive end. Boozer has shown on two teams now that he plays good enough team basketball for his team to be successful.

yeah - he went from playing with dwill to playing with rose and with the best passing center in the league. from playing for sloan to playing for tibs, while al gets a coach you are calling to get fired the entire season (with good reason). al has issues, no doubt. but it is also about circumstances and situation, and not all of that is in his control. and last year the team was successful and it rode on al's back the entire year.

look, you are not wrong. al is not a good defender. i also wanted him to move more and challenge players who get to the rim. i'm just saying he's catching more fire than anyone else and it is not justified. there is so much dysfunction and errors out there made by the entire team and the coach for us to focus on him so much all the time.

[schneiderjazz]

In today's NBA, with no hand-checking, there are VERY few guards who can stop a great dribble penetrator single-handedly. We certainly don't have one of those guys.

What we do have is a guy who is a defensive stud and can protect the rim.

is that what we have? i thought he is just an expensive way to keep the bench warm. smh.

on a side note - KOC was asked about the poor defense the jazz are showing on his latest interview:

http://1280thezone.com/index.php/audio/listen/the_big_show_kevin_oconnor_utah_jazz_senior_executive


his answer was that it is because we are a young inexperienced team. i really didn't appreciate this answer. like it's the young players fault. the bench guys, who play limited minutes, and not the vets who play most of the minutes and dig a hole for the bench to climb out of every single game. that really pissed me off. not cool.

+1
I'm really tired of this inexperienced crap. We have one **** rookie who has barely seen the floor all year. When Corbin said the Knicks were an experienced group who knew how to win, I wanted to kill him. Don't we have a ton of veterans? Why don't they know how to win then? Does he really blame the young guys, who, despite doing some dumb **** once in a while, have outplayed the veterans basically all year long? If the guys who should be winning the games aren't, we should be giving a chance to those who actually try hard.

And what's the **** obsession with Randy Foye? Burks does everything better than him, including shooting the 3, for the past two months. And Carroll doesn't even see the floor anymore? Why?
I can't believe I'm actually gonna say this, but I miss Jerry. At least we had an offense.

[Spottieottie]

Rofl at anyone who says Al tries on D, is good on D, is blameless on D, or isn't even a key contributing factor to the pourous nature of our D.

Guards get picked. It happens. What is the big supposed to do when the guard gets picked? Rotate. Al doesn't rotate. He flat out does not do it. Watch the games over and over, it has been the same all year. The ole defense, turnstyle defense, whatever you want to call it. Lin's drives in the 4th were all exactly because of this. You see Favors blocking shots, rotating, making a difference every game. This is what Al is supposed to do. But he doesn't, lord knows I have absolutely no idea why.

[FJS]

This team don't want to win, or they don't know how to do it.

This is an epic choke. I don't know if players are tired of Corbin or what, but this is not noral. We were something like 31-24 a few games ago.