The Official "Build For The Future" Thread

[-Ian-]

Did anyone go to the season ticket meeting with mj and cho?

Here's the piece that Bonnell wrote about the meeting.

Michael Jordan: Off-season changes likely for Bobcats

[LongLiveIverson]

Sixers fan and hugee Kemba fan here, What do you guys think of this
Bismak Biyombo, Blazers pick for Evan Turner, Arnett Moultrie

[Kembastockton]

Personally, I would reluctantly decline. I am a fan of Turner's but I kind of feel like their negatives are a wash, and the potential value of the pick trumphs my interest in Turner and Moultrie. The other guys may like it though. We tend to disagree.

[catch20two]

I used to be a believer in ET but he's just way too inconsistent for me and Moultrie's lack of playing time this rookie season worries me that he's far from ready to compete in the NBA right now. I would decline that trade as well.

[BlackOutBuzz]

Back off your original offer of Biz, BG, PDX pick for Turner and Young?

[LongLiveIverson]

yea as a Sixers fan its so depressing with the whole Bynum situation..and Jrue and Thad's play and effort is enough to keep us out of contention for a top 5 impact pick. Looks like were stuck with mediocrity once again for another 8yrs. We had our shot with in 2008 but chose Turner instead of trading Brand's contract to move down with Twolves pick and get Cousins or Monroe.

Might adopt you guys as my 2nd team, I loved Kemba since watching him at Rice at the Prime Time shootout when my HS team played there. I see him as a potential Tim Hardaway type.

I haven't been able to see alot of games, hows Biyombo progressing? What are his weaknesses besides being lost on offense.? do you think if you drafted Kelly Olykyk with one of your picks he would be able to play alongside him? You guys have a bright future hope MJ doesn't screw it up. Do you guys prefer Noel or Mclemore at this point?

If you guys drafted Mclemore/Kelly Olykyk I think you have to try and sign a legitimate post scorer to prevent stunting Kembas growth as a passing point guard..he needs a low post guy.
Millsap for 10mill a yr then Mozgov for depth could be enough to push you into the playoffs
C. Kelly/Mozgov/Haywood
F. Millsap/Biyombo
F. Gilchrist/Taylor
G. Mclemore/Gordon
G. Kemba/Sessions

[Eoghan]

Welcome to the Lolcat land, Longliveiverson.

Biyombo is a polarizing figure among us Bobcat's fans. I am probably the biggest Biz nuthugger on the board, just to warn you. IMO, he's progressing extremely well. His footwork are approaching decent, he has a nice lefty hook, his jumpshot form looks really good and he's improving his FT shooting. Doesn't sound like much but people easily forget that this is a guy that struggled to score against a chair in an empty gym just a couple of years ago. Most people are frustrated by his rebounding but they're boxscore watching too much. His very good weakside help takes him out of rebounding position often, teams always shoot high % against us which limits opportunities, and his effort often leads to easy rebounds for other Bobcats (tap outs, fighting in mid-air with other team, etc).

He doesn't catch passes very well, or rather, he doesn't catch passes in scoring opportunities very well. He doesn't get passed to regularly and the passes he gets are often hard to catch bullet passes b/c the Bobcats as a team don't pass very well, so he gets taken by surprise. But he has improved corralling the wayward pass and going into a move quickly. I think he's progressing very well for a 20 yo project from the Congo without a good bigman coach or mentors and a debut in a lockout shortened season but some people are upset that he isn't Mutumbo already. He's still got a good 2 years before I feel comfortable labeling him a bust or not.

Olynyk would be an ideal frontcourt mate b/c KO has good IQ, passing, some range, and is a legit 7'. BB makes up for his slowness and short arms by being the complete opposite as an athletic shot eraser.

I prefer Noel (or Bennett) just b/c I feel like he's BPA and fills a more pressing need, plus with Henderson's improved play he might be resigned but I wouldn't blink an eye if we drafted McLemore, I like him a lot too.

We might add a good FA big but I have a feeling we'll lose out and settle for an economic stopgap. We aren't trying to make the playoffs at least until after tanking for the Wiggins lottery.

[LongLiveIverson]

Back off your original offer of Biz, BG, PDX pick for Turner and Young?

lol yes i was thinking of tank possibilities for the Sixers and was trying to get rid of every starter minus Jrue for youth. You guys have it good being in the celler at least you have the potential of your draft picks eventually working out. Sixers will be stuck picking 13th to 16th for the next 5 yrs surrounding Jrue with possibly a 5 seed playoff team at best.


And yea you guys will be in position for a great draft with either a Mclemore/Olykyk or Bennet/Stein type pf draft. Bennett and Kelly together would probably get abused on the glass and defensively

[HornetJail]

I'd happily take Evan Turner for a pick even though he's a dreadful fit for this roster.

[catch20two]

I'd happily take Evan Turner for a pick even though he's a dreadful fit for this roster.

Why? So we can have another player to complain about because he's underachieving?

[HornetJail]

I'd happily take Evan Turner for a pick even though he's a dreadful fit for this roster.

Why? So we can have another player to complain about because he's underachieving?

I wouldn't mind 13.5/6.5/4.5 with solid defense in return for either Portland's pick or Ramon Sessions and a 2nd.

[catch20two]

I'd happily take Evan Turner for a pick even though he's a dreadful fit for this roster.

Why? So we can have another player to complain about because he's underachieving?

I wouldn't mind 13.5/6.5/4.5 with solid defense in return for either Portland's pick or Ramon Sessions and a 2nd.

Those numbers will come with a $7-9 million per year extension but I wouldn't mind having ET as a backup PG disguised as a starting SG to play alongside Kemba. I like Sessions as a backup PG a lot but not at the expense of Dunlap throwing out his premeditated small ball lineups that usually dooms any chance we have at winning.

[Kembastockton]

yea as a Sixers fan its so depressing with the whole Bynum situation..and Jrue and Thad's play and effort is enough to keep us out of contention for a top 5 impact pick. Looks like were stuck with mediocrity once again for another 8yrs. We had our shot with in 2008 but chose Turner instead of trading Brand's contract to move down with Twolves pick and get Cousins or Monroe.

Might adopt you guys as my 2nd team, I loved Kemba since watching him at Rice at the Prime Time shootout when my HS team played there. I see him as a potential Tim Hardaway type.

I haven't been able to see alot of games, hows Biyombo progressing? What are his weaknesses besides being lost on offense.? do you think if you drafted Kelly Olykyk with one of your picks he would be able to play alongside him? You guys have a bright future hope MJ doesn't screw it up. Do you guys prefer Noel or Mclemore at this point?

If you guys drafted Mclemore/Kelly Olykyk I think you have to try and sign a legitimate post scorer to prevent stunting Kembas growth as a passing point guard..he needs a low post guy.
Millsap for 10mill a yr then Mozgov for depth could be enough to push you into the playoffs
C. Kelly/Mozgov/Haywood
F. Millsap/Biyombo
F. Gilchrist/Taylor
G. Mclemore/Gordon
G. Kemba/Sessions

LongliveIverson, I like you already. I love that team that you are proposing although to land both Millsap and Mozgov we would likely have to get a team to sign and trade one of them to us. I personally love the way Biz is progressing. Unlike many I don't expect young players to be good right away. I understand that the nba has the greatest players in the world. Aside from a few players who are drafted into ideal situations only the best players look like stars immediately. We didn't have a good big man for Biz to learn from on the rostor or the coaching staff. There was no way he was going to make huge offensive strides over night. I think that we are a great situation for Mclemore though. Especially if we can obtain a scoring big like Millsap. If he is interested in coming here I would seriously consider overpaying for him. Ben and Hendo could benefit greatly from each other and fom Gordon if he is still on the roster. If we get the Portland pick Kelly is my favorite behind Plumley who will likely be gone. So I would be very happy to see us draft him. I am not worried about Kemba's passing. He wants to pass. He has just been stuck with a team that struggles to finish, so he has been forced to do it himself. I am confident that when he gets some better players around him he will claim an ongoing spot among the league's top pointguards.

Welcome aboard LongLiveIverson. Don't let our frequent bickering run you off.

[Leolovinliberal]

Sixers fan and hugee Kemba fan here, What do you guys think of this
Bismak Biyombo, Blazers pick for Evan Turner, Arnett Moultrie

I'd do that in a heartbeat. Biz has the worst hands of any player in the history of the NBA; body of a Greek God, hand-eye coordination of Helen Keller.

[SWedd523]

Sixers fan and hugee Kemba fan here, What do you guys think of this
Bismak Biyombo, Blazers pick for Evan Turner, Arnett Moultrie

I'd do that in a heartbeat. Biz has the worst hands of any player in the history of the NBA; body of a Greek God, hand-eye coordination of Helen Keller.

I feel like you've said that bef................ oh that's right, you say it EVERY time somebody brings him up.


Don't you have another Mullens fellatio thread to start somewhere?

[thruthefire]

Moving Portland's pick for him is a definite no. Turner is OK, but those numbers are per 36 minutes of playing time and he's a terribly inefficient scorer. I also don't want Jordan to have to pay him next summer, or see him go for nothing in return.

[catch20two]

Moving Portland's pick for him is a definite no. Turner is OK, but those numbers are per 36 minutes of playing time and he's a terribly inefficient scorer. I also don't want Jordan to have to pay him next summer, or see him go for nothing in return.

Those were Turner's actual per game averages. He averages 35.8 minutes per game

[thruthefire]

Moving Portland's pick for him is a definite no. Turner is OK, but those numbers are per 36 minutes of playing time and he's a terribly inefficient scorer. I also don't want Jordan to have to pay him next summer, or see him go for nothing in return.

Those were Turner's actual per game averages. He averages 35.8 minutes per game

Yeah, I know. I was just pointing out that it's not that impressive once you consider how many minutes he is playing.

[catch20two]

Moving Portland's pick for him is a definite no. Turner is OK, but those numbers are per 36 minutes of playing time and he's a terribly inefficient scorer. I also don't want Jordan to have to pay him next summer, or see him go for nothing in return.

Those were Turner's actual per game averages. He averages 35.8 minutes per game

Yeah, I know. I was just pointing out that it's not that impressive once you consider how many minutes he is playing.

His shooting percentages are very lackluster as well. On third thought, you're right, he's not worth it.

[Eoghan]

Yeah, I want to like Turner a lot but he's been a tire fire since coming into the league. He's got to bring that shooting way up to justify his draft position.