Who stays and who goes

[Sunsdeuce]

So with everyone from top to bottom who do you want to stay and who do you want gone?

What I would like;
Dragic: stay
Gortat: trade for something of value if not stay
Brown: go
Marshall: hopefully sucker a team into trading for him
Tucker: don't care either way, his type are a dime a dozen
Beasley: see Marshall
Johnson: stay only for cheap
Morris(15): trade
Morris(11):trade
Garrett: stay
Scola: see gortat
O'Neal: stay for cheap
Dudley: stay
haddatttittaddai(98): don't care either way
Frye: stay you owe it to him in my opinion

FO:
Babby: gone
Blanks:GONE
Hunter: GONE faster!

I guess I want a complete rebuild. I want like 80 percent gone. I guess that's harsh.

[Sunsfan03]

That is harsh dude I think Hunter is doing well, and our FO finally seems to have a plan it would be dumb to give up on them now while their halfway doing it.

Stay:
Dragic
PJ Tucker
Dudley ( Unless we get a good trade )
J.O. on a cheap contract
Haddadi
Wes-Jo (on cheap)

Go:
Gortat
Scola
Beasley
Brown

MUST GO! : OUR DRAFT SCOUT/TEAM

Indifferent: Frye, Marshall( showing potential as backup pg), Morris twins.

[Sunsdeuce]

Yeah it is harsh, but it is truly how I feel.

[King Of Wang]

So with everyone from top to bottom who do you want to stay and who do you want gone?

What I would like;
Dragic: stay
Gortat: trade for something of value if not stay
Brown: go
Marshall: hopefully sucker a team into trading for him
Tucker: don't care either way, his type are a dime a dozen
Beasley: see Marshall
Johnson: stay only for cheap
Morris(15): trade
Morris(11):trade
Garrett: stay
Scola: see gortat
O'Neal: stay for cheap
Dudley: stay
haddatttittaddai(98): don't care either way
Frye: stay you owe it to him in my opinion

FO:
Babby: gone
Blanks:GONE
Hunter: GONE faster!

I guess I want a complete rebuild. I want like 80 percent gone. I guess that's harsh.

+1

To add to that, I think we should get rid of any veteran that would hurt our draft pick for next year. Obviously keep a few for the young guys to learn from, but don't keep too many and fall out of the Wiggins sweepstakes. We definitely have a roster capable of entering us into the sweepstakes, but it wouldn't hurt to improve our chances. And as sunsfan said, our scouting department does not get the attention it deserves because they aren't in the spotlight, but they NEED TO GO ASAP!! They are a joke and have obviously been incompetent at their jobs. Beg David Griffin to come back and triple his salary, or find some other respectable ones to join us. Success starts at the top

[Saberestar]

So with everyone from top to bottom who do you want to stay and who do you want gone?

What I would like;
Dragic: stay
Gortat: trade for something of value if not stay
Brown: go
Marshall: hopefully sucker a team into trading for him
Tucker: don't care either way, his type are a dime a dozen
Beasley: see Marshall
Johnson: stay only for cheap
Morris(15): trade
Morris(11):trade
Garrett: stay
Scola: see gortat
O'Neal: stay for cheap
Dudley: stay
haddatttittaddai(98): don't care either way
Frye: stay you owe it to him in my opinion

FO:
Babby: gone
Blanks:GONE
Hunter: GONE faster!

I guess I want a complete rebuild. I want like 80 percent gone. I guess that's harsh.

+2

Dragic and Dudley are the only two players I really want back next year.
After them Gortat and Scola, because they are good players with great contracts, but of course not untouchables by any means.
I hope Frye recovers well (like Jeff Green).
Marshall can stay another year to see if he belongs to the NBA.

[NaturalBuns]

Don't trade the morris twins. Let them progress you can't give up on 2nd year players like that.

My list.

Stay:
Dragic
Morris Twins
Marshall
Wesley Johnson
Jared Dudley (maybe)


Out:
Brown (released team option)
Michael Beasley (not gonna happen)
Scola
Gortat (he no longer has the value he had) Oneal plays better then gortat on both ends.


the rest of the players are irrelevant imo if they stay or go. With scola and gortat i would look to just get younger and more athletic size or picks. also fire everyone in FO.

[nevetsov]

Keep:
Dragic, Marshall, Garrett, Tucker, O'Neal, Haddadi
Draft picks

Subtract:
Gortat, Beasley, Brown

Either or:
Dudley, Johnson, Markieff, Marcus, Scola

[wordsenuff]

Keep:
Dragic, Marshall, Garrett, Tucker, O'Neal, Haddadi
Draft picks

Subtract:
Gortat, Beasley, Brown

Either or:
Dudley, Johnson, Markieff, Marcus, Scola

same for me on all except garrett and gortat .. they can go under "either or"

[DirtyDez]

Trade Scola
Trade Scola
Trade Scola
Trade Scola
Trade Scola

[GrantHill]

Trade Scola

Do you think there is any kind of market for a 33-year old power forward on the decline? Whos going to give up any useful assets for him?

[Calvin Klein]

Unfortunately we might not get fair value for Scola. There's no point in keeping him though if youth is to be developed.

Only Dragic is a keeper right now. I love Tucker and Dudley but they are expendable in a rebuilding team. I'd like to see what Dudley could do in a contender.

Gortat: Trade him. We can get something valuable for him and he is too inconsistent and mentally weak.

Johnson: Keep him for cheap.

I don't mind keeping the Morrises and Marshal. They are young and can improve.

Brown and Beasley: GTFO.

I don't care for anybody else.

[RunDogGun]

This just seems like another complaining thread. Cool, now you've stated who should go (the problems), yet very few have stated where and for whom (solutions).

The only easy out so far is to waive Brown, but I would have done it already, and picked up Selby. Run Selby with the Morrii and see if they can get some Kansas moonshine brewing.

[Frank Lee]

I don't think you can waive Brown w/o paying him his full amount next yr. Perhaps we could have bought him out but why bother.... as he would likely cost more to get rid of him rather than wait and option him out this off season.

Selby is still floating around. Perhaps invite him in this summer and see.... but roster spots will be taken up quickly if no players are moved for picks or two for one deals.

[b-ball forever]

Everybody/Everything goes for the right price.

Everybody/Everything stays for the wrong price.

[RunDogGun]

I don't think you can waive Brown w/o paying him his full amount next yr. Perhaps we could have bought him out but why bother.... as he would likely cost more to get rid of him rather than wait and option him out this off season.

Selby is still floating around. Perhaps invite him in this summer and see.... but roster spots will be taken up quickly if no players are moved for picks or two for one deals.

Isn't the option just a set amount guaranteed? If so, waiving him to me would be the same thing. However, it wouldn't work with what I had said. Since I would have done it earlier, maybe a buyout to possibly catch on with a playoff team would have worked. At what point can we take the option on Brown?

But there needs to be more logic involved instead of people just saying so and so should be gone. Unless said players are FAs, there needs to be a rational way to get rid of them. Which, if so many think our players are terrible, who will take them, and at what cost to our team? We aren't getting any young talent without taking on someone worthless. To me something like the Morrii and the 30th pick for Deshawn Stevenson and the two ATL picks. Is that worth the trade? I dont know, but something ATL might do. However,I still would like to see what our players can do with a real coaching staff (but we'd have to get one to find out), before a dumb fire sale.

[Sunsdeuce]

I give up!

I don't think you can waive Brown w/o paying him his full amount next yr. Perhaps we could have bought him out but why bother.... as he would likely cost more to get rid of him rather than wait and option him out this off season.

Selby is still floating around. Perhaps invite him in this summer and see.... but roster spots will be taken up quickly if no players are moved for picks or two for one deals.

Isn't the option just a set amount guaranteed? If so, waiving him to me would be the same thing. However, it wouldn't work with what I had said. Since I would have done it earlier, maybe a buyout to possibly catch on with a playoff team would have worked. At what point can we take the option on Brown?

But there needs to be more logic involved instead of people just saying so and so should be gone. Unless said players are FAs, there needs to be a rational way to get rid of them. Which, if so many think our players are terrible, who will take them, and at what cost to our team? We aren't getting any young talent without taking on someone worthless. To me something like the Morrii and the 30th pick for Deshawn Stevenson and the two ATL picks. Is that worth the trade? I dont know, but something ATL might do. However,I still would like to see what our players can do with a real coaching staff (but we'd have to get one to find out), before a dumb fire sale.

I want to live in your world

[DirtyDez]

Trade Scola

Do you think there is any kind of market for a 33-year old power forward on the decline? Whos going to give up any useful assets for him?

Yes. Late 1st from a contender.

[Sunsdeuce]

Trade Scola

Do you think there is any kind of market for a 33-year old power forward on the decline? Whos going to give up any useful assets for him?

Yes. Late 1st from a contender.

I agree. To a contender, Scola is absolutely worth a late first. I think a contender would see it that way too.

[phrazbit]

Most contenders are over the cap, so for them to take on Scola they'd also have to find 4.5 mil worth of contracts they dont care about to send along with him.

Also, we cannot trade Scola until July 1st, which is after the draft, so we'd probably be asking for a 2014 pick.

I dont know that Scola is going to be as easy to move as many think. If he gets shipped off I think its more likely to be in salary dump with basically no return.

[bigfoot]

I give up!

I don't think you can waive Brown w/o paying him his full amount next yr. Perhaps we could have bought him out but why bother.... as he would likely cost more to get rid of him rather than wait and option him out this off season.

Selby is still floating around. Perhaps invite him in this summer and see.... but roster spots will be taken up quickly if no players are moved for picks or two for one deals.

Isn't the option just a set amount guaranteed? If so, waiving him to me would be the same thing. However, it wouldn't work with what I had said. Since I would have done it earlier, maybe a buyout to possibly catch on with a playoff team would have worked. At what point can we take the option on Brown?

But there needs to be more logic involved instead of people just saying so and so should be gone. Unless said players are FAs, there needs to be a rational way to get rid of them. Which, if so many think our players are terrible, who will take them, and at what cost to our team? We aren't getting any young talent without taking on someone worthless. To me something like the Morrii and the 30th pick for Deshawn Stevenson and the two ATL picks. Is that worth the trade? I dont know, but something ATL might do. However,I still would like to see what our players can do with a real coaching staff (but we'd have to get one to find out), before a dumb fire sale.

I want to live in your world

No ... you just don't listen to real logic. Signed players just don't disappear off your roster. Who's going to take all these scrub players you hate off our hands. Take a deep breath and think real hard about it before you respond.