Kobe Bryant versus D. Wade today

[GOODKIDmAAdCITY]

kobe has always been better. especially this year. no years before this year are even debatable. kobe sh.its on this steroid user

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[GOODKIDmAAdCITY]

Kobe can't shot block nor can't stay in front of anyone under the age of 30. On top of that he's horrible at rotation help and he's even worse at cheating off his defenders who he doesn't deem worthy enough of pressuring.

Overrated or not, Wade's defense is what separates him from Kobe at this point of their careers.

Wade is a horrible defender too. **** off

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[leeprettyp]

its crazy to me how Kobe is being called a horrible defender these days smh. Man I get upset just much as the next person when he loses his man on defense. The thing is all elite wing players do 2-3 times a game. Kobe's on ball defense is still great. At this stage of their careers if u want to say Wade is a better off-ball defender because he still has the speed to sneak in passing lanes for steals I guess I can give u that but Kobe's still a better onball defender than he is even today. To me people wing players who get alot of steals and/or blocks doesnt necessarily make them a great wing defender just means they gamble alot.

[Michael Lucky]

The problem is Kobe is still used primarily as an off ball defender. Sure he had his streak against Irving and Jennings were he played the primary on ball Guard, but that disappeared. If we're playing the Spurs in the first round I sure hope Kobe is on Parker and not on Green, or Green is going to have one heck of a series from 3.

[leeprettyp]

The problem is Kobe is still used primarily as an off ball defender. Sure he had his streak against Irving and Jennings were he played the primary on ball Guard, but that disappeared. If we're playing the Spurs in the first round I sure hope Kobe is on Parker and not on Green, or Green is going to have one heck of a series from 3.

Thats a fair statement. I just think Mike D has to force Kobe to move over on the PG to keep him fully engaged on that end at this stage of his career. Probably because he doesnt want to get embarassed out there. But for instance last time we played the Clippers at Staples I was upset because Mike D didnt force Kobe to defend Paul and left Nash out there on that island smh.

[Miaheatfan3]

Kobe might be more durable and probably better as an individual player... But let's be real who would you want to have in your team to win? or let's change the question, if you put kobe on today's miami and you put Wade on today's Lakers, I truly believe Miami would lose more games and Lakers would win many more games.

After this, I would never change the level of play from 06 or 09 Wade for any of Kobe's year.

[Optms]

Any drastic change to Miami's current chemistry is going to result in less wins.

It took a full season before the Lebron/Wade/Bosh trio was able to work out all the kinks and another season before they could get to this current peak performance level.

Any change to their current trio would result in less wins. It doesn't matter who its for. This isn't 2k where you can just exchange one star for another and not skip a beat.

The Lakers this season are in a adjustment phase with all the new faces. Now you replace Kobe with Wade, who hasn't ever played with Gasol, and you further screw up the chemistry of this team. We would struggle just the same even if Wade is more efficient and plays better D.

[GeneralNash]

Any drastic change to Miami's current chemistry is going to result in less wins.

It took a full season before the Lebron/Wade/Bosh trio was able to work out all the kinks and another season before they could get to this current peak performance level.

Any change to their current trio would result in less wins. It doesn't matter who its for. This isn't 2k where you can just exchange one star for another and not skip a beat.

The Lakers this season are in a adjustment phase with all the new faces. Now you replace Kobe with Wade, who hasn't ever played with Gasol, and you further screw up the chemistry of this team. We would struggle just the same even if Wade is more efficient and plays better D.

I want to see how wade and lebron perform without roids or hgh and then make comparisons. With the whole steroid issue surrounding these two it is hard to say how lebron or wade would do if they played clean.

[Imadogg]

Everyone is on HGH/steroids so who cares

[Kobean]

Kobe might be more durable and probably better as an individual player... But let's be real who would you want to have in your team to win? or let's change the question, if you put kobe on today's miami and you put Wade on today's Lakers, I truly believe Miami would lose more games and Lakers would win many more games.

After this, I would never change the level of play from 06 or 09 Wade for any of Kobe's year.

Who would you want to have in your team to win? 5>2

[Rox_Nix_Nox]

Kobe might be more durable and probably better as an individual player... But let's be real who would you want to have in your team to win? or let's change the question, if you put kobe on today's miami and you put Wade on today's Lakers, I truly believe Miami would lose more games and Lakers would win many more games.

After this, I would never change the level of play from 06 or 09 Wade for any of Kobe's year.

lol thats laughable
Kobe every time. Why? Because the guy cares only about baseketball. You don't see him sitting front row at some fashion show. The guy has no real friends. Kobe would never go into his "prime" with an questionable midrange jumper. The guy is a baskeball junkie unlike wade and james and howard who get by just by being athletically superior

[PersianCeltic]

I hate them both with a passion obviously but I have to say that Kobe is better than Wade at any stage in their careers (besides when Kobe was right out of high school of course). I know you guys are not fans of Pierce but I put him above Wade as well. The Lakers with Shaq and Kobe were much better than Wade with Shaq. Shaq may have been getting older but he was still the complete reason heat won that championship aside from really really atrocious officiating. You trade Kobe for Wade the Lakers get worse Heat still lethal.

[leolozon]

SO much bias here...

It's evident that Wade is better right now. I understand it's tough to be impartial when you are a fan of a team and a player, but come on...

First Wade is a better defensive player than Kobe. Just that should be enough to take him over Kobe. But...

Wade : 24.26 PER
Bryant : 23,11 PER

Wade : ,195 WS per 48 minutes
Bryant : ,170 WS per 48 minutes

Wade : 1,335 pts per shot
Bryant : 1,323 pts per shot

Wade : 1,786 assists/TO
Bryant : 1,611 assists/TO

Wade : 1,9 steal per 36
Bryant : 1,2 steal per 36

Wade : 0,8 block per 36
Bryant 0,2 block per 36

Rebound per 36 minutes : 5,2 for both.

Wade is a more efficient scorer, plays better defensively, turns the ball over less, steals and blocks more balls and has a bigger overall impact on winning.

But hey, let's be homers and not look at facts. Is it really that hard to be impartial?

[Pimpwerx]

I think all Miami fans secretly deep in their heart will readily trade their Wade for Kobe any time of the year.

You underestimate how highly most Heat fans value Wade. Some of us have considered Wade the best SG in the league for 5+ years. PEACE.

[Pimpwerx]

Wade's D is seriously overrated, he's often out of position playing under the rim and leaving his man wide open along the 3 point line. It's actually one of the reasons why he's such a good shotblocker for a guard.

It's his role. Wade and Bron get to make their own reads and roam, when necessary, because they are primary help defenders. Wade is such a good shotblocker, and so good at blocking big men, that Spo tasks him with going into the paint to defend. That's why Wade's man is usually the one that springs free in the corner, because Wade has to sag off him so much. We don't always play that way, but if you ever see Wade spending too much time near the paint, on defense, it's because he's being tasked with blocking shots and grabbing rebounds. We treat Wade and Bron like bigs, at times. Wade plays a good chunk of minutes at SF now too. PEACE.

[benshizzle]

KOBE

[Doormatt]

ill take lebron

[leolozon]

So no one wants to answer my post? I guess that's what happens when you use facts... Where are everyone saying Kobe is better?