Draft prospects @ 10

Case2012 · Post #181 » by **Case2012** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:33 am

I love a pure pg, but unless they can shoot their career in the league most often will be brief. If MCW could nail open 3s at a high clip I would say yes. I think we all know center is the weakest position but bpa will most likely be the choice.

Case2012 · Post #182 » by **Case2012** » Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:14 am

Correct me please but hasn't Lillard been averaging around 23 and 7 since we got Maynor? I would love to Draft CJ McCulloum aka Lillard 2.0. They would play really well off each other.

whatchaknow · Post #183 » by **whatchaknow** » Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:42 am

Case2012 wrote:Correct me please but hasn't Lillard been averaging around 23 and 7 since we got Maynor? I would love to Draft CJ McCulloum aka Lillard 2.0. They would play really well off each other.

I like him as well I just wish I could have seen him more.. I watched that duke game he played last year and he was fantastic. If he is at 12 that's definitely good value there

Case2012 · Post #184 » by **Case2012** » Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:56 pm

erick green could do a lot of the same things as McCullum as well.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhzwLXF7fVA[/youtube]

Case2012 · Post #185 » by **Case2012** » Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:31 pm

If we pick at 12 This guy will be there. But if we use our second rounders, green might be there too. Who is a better fit? Green or McCullum? We could conceivably draft both, although drafting a big seems pretty imperative. I mentioned in the Lillard v. Roy thread how great Crawford would have been next to Lillard this season, and McCullum screams Crawford and is more of a combo guard than Green...hmm?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omY6v5jJIjw[/youtube]

GreenRiddler · Post #186 » by **GreenRiddler** » Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:35 pm

Case2012 wrote:If we pick at 12 This guy will be there. But if we use our second rounders, green might be there too. Who is a better fit? Green or McCullum? We could conceivably draft both, although drafting a big seems pretty imperative. I mentioned in the Lillard v. Roy thread how great Crawford would have been next to Lillard this season, and McCullum screams Crawford and is more of a combo guard than Green...hmm?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omY6v5jJIjw[/youtube]

I really liked Mccoulum early on and we'll see but who knows? a prime ready player like that might be taken by OKC knowing he is game ready and polished ability to go out there and play day 1. I really like KCP if we can get him like if Cj and a lot of other picks go before us. He is an underrated guy. I don't want nothing to do with Archie though. Elliott Williams is gonna be better than him next year. He is probably gonna take 2 or 3 years and not even a sure thing to stick ala Alec Burks/Tyreke Evans.

Case2012 · Post #187 » by **Case2012** » Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:22 pm

I think okc will go big unless oladipo is still on the board if they use the pick. To be honest I see them trading it though, they already have a young team and lamb is not even seeing the court even, though he was a lottery pick. Why would they Draft young again? It's great trade bait, as long as they don't take back to much salary.

Ripcity4life · Post #188 » by **Ripcity4life** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:53 pm

Blazers need to draft Oregons Kazemi -- He might need to get another 5 to 10 pounds BUT he hustles 24/7 and he is a rebounding machine. This is something the BLazers need someone who has a nose for the ball. I am not saying they should take him in the 1st round but take him in the 2nd round. It would be a steal and he could replace Babbitt on the roster and be a instant upgrade.

a_sensei · Post #189 » by **a_sensei** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:06 pm

Ripcity4life wrote:Blazers need to draft Oregons Kazemi -- He might need to get another 5 to 10 pounds BUT he hustles 24/7 and he is a rebounding machine. This is something the BLazers need someone who has a nose for the ball. I am not saying they should take him in the 1st round but take him in the 2nd round. It would be a steal and he could replace Babbitt on the roster and be a instant upgrade.

I think Kazemi could have a future in the league as an undersized hustle 4 off the bench ala Eduardo Najera. The one thing he really needs to do is develop some range. He's a pretty good free throw shooter so I think he may develop that part of his game.

lukeyrid13 · Post #190 » by **lukeyrid13** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:49 pm

I wonder if Shabazz drops further than he already has with news coming out about his age. He hasn't struck me as a 1st option superstar much this year and may have less potential than originally thought. I thought he was a lock for #1 pick a year ago and now he might drop to the bottom half of the lottery

DusterBuster · Post #191 » by **DusterBuster** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:03 pm

lukeyrid13 wrote:I wonder if Shabazz drops further than he already has with news coming out about his age. He hasn't struck me as a 1st option superstar much this year and may have less potential than originally thought. I thought he was a lock for #1 pick a year ago and now he might drop to the bottom half of the lottery

I don't know how much the age thing specifically will hurt his stock. I think more damaging is the fact that he's been fairly disappointing as a collegiate player when compared to the hype that surrounded him coming into college. Combine that with what has seems to be a pretty questionable attitude and that has a recipe for some draft night slippage.

For a guy who was called a "once in a generation talent" (yes, actual quote by Greg Anthony), he's not even projected as the best SG in this draft anymore as McLemore has seemingly stole that crown. So even before the age thing, his draft stock had started to slip.

To me, Shabazz feels a lot like Brandon Jennings. Another guy who was hyped like crazy, then didn't produce up to the hype in college (or overseas in Jennings case), had a couple of red flags around him, and finally ending up dropping from where a lot of people thought they would be.

That being said, with this being a fairly weak draft class, I think you're going to see a lot of teams pick for need over BPA in the lottery. So it wouldn't surprise me to see Shabazz still go Top 3 and it wouldn't surprise me to see him fall all the way down to 10, especially if he has some lackluster workouts. A lot will depend on how the lottery plays out.

DusterBuster · Post #192 » by **DusterBuster** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:48 pm

Interestingly, NBA.com writer Scott-Howard Cooper said that the thing that's really hurting his stock right now is his really poor team play. He says it's questionable that he'll even make the Top 5 right now.

Assuming the draft stays relatively unchanged, for some teams in the top 10, I think they'll look past his seemingly me-first personality.....

Detroit - They need a wing to go with their frontcourt and Knight at PG. I could see them really liking Shabazz and taking him if he slips out of the top 10.
Charlotte - They need a player with star potential and Jordan clearly doesn't care that highly about character.
Minnesota - They desperately need wing help, so I doubt he drops past the Wolves.

Norm2953 · Post #193 » by **Norm2953** » Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:32 pm

It's been a horrible tournament for the top 5 projected picks with only McLemore
having a chance of rebounding. If Portland somehow pulls itself in contention for
the #8 spot in the playoffs, I'd be more than happy to let the Bobcats have our
pick.

Wizenheimer · Post #194 » by **Wizenheimer** » Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:32 pm

Norm2953 wrote:It's been a horrible tournament for the top 5 projected picks with only McLemore
having a chance of rebounding. If Portland somehow pulls itself in contention for
the #8 spot in the playoffs, I'd be more than happy to let the Bobcats have our
pick.

of course, some of the biggest draft mistakes have come when teams draft according to great play in March Madness. Tyrus Thomas and Adam Morrison, meet Roy and Aldridge

Norm2953 · Post #195 » by **Norm2953** » Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:29 pm

The problem we face today (with NBA scouts) is the body of work with the players
projected at the top is minimal. Nerlens Noel may yet be the first player picked for
his people could argue his team could not win even in the NIT without him.

Let's say the Blazers find themselves competing with Dallas, LAL, Utah for the final
playoff spot. Those two home games against the Lakers and Thunder might mean
everything in the world for the psyche of the franchise. Settling for the 12th pick
in a mediocre draft might be the lesser choice over the rush of the playoffs and
additional cap space in free agency would be a bonus.

It does seem to me the draft will end up yielding some solid starters and rotation
players but unless Noel recovers fully, no potential superstar player.

Wizenheimer · Post #196 » by **Wizenheimer** » Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:13 pm

Norm2953 wrote:The problem we face today (with NBA scouts) is the body of work with the players
projected at the top is minimal. Nerlens Noel may yet be the first player picked for
his people could argue his team could not win even in the NIT without him.

Let's say the Blazers find themselves competing with Dallas, LAL, Utah for the final
playoff spot. Those two home games against the Lakers and Thunder might mean
everything in the world for the psyche of the franchise. Settling for the 12th pick
in a mediocre draft might be the lesser choice over the rush of the playoffs and
additional cap space in free agency would be a bonus.

It does seem to me the draft will end up yielding some solid starters and rotation
players but unless Noel recovers fully, no potential superstar player.

I just don't know of anybody who was expecting the Blazers to land a "superstar" in this draft. That's a red herring

My guess is that those draft gurus who are predicting that the later part of the lottery and mid 1sts would be opportunities for finding good value are correct

But more then that, I believe this summer is a critical pivot point for the franchise. Portland needs to make moves that significantly improve the roster next season. To do that, they will need to have assets. A lottery pick is an asset. I think it would be much better to have the 12th pick this draft preceding the critical off-season, then the 20th pick in the next draft. That pick this year would represent Portland having a better, more diverse batch of options then simply 1.5 million extra cap-space.

I'm not going to sweat it either way. I just happen to think those rooting for the Blazers to not have the pick this year are off-base. Of course, I've been thinking all along that Portland would magically find the worst option this year: losing the pick and missing the playoffs

Caravaggio · Post #197 » by **Caravaggio** » Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:30 pm

DusterBuster wrote:
lukeyrid13 wrote:I wonder if Shabazz drops further than he already has with news coming out about his age. He hasn't struck me as a 1st option superstar much this year and may have less potential than originally thought. I thought he was a lock for #1 pick a year ago and now he might drop to the bottom half of the lottery

I don't know how much the age thing specifically will hurt his stock. I think more damaging is the fact that he's been fairly disappointing as a collegiate player when compared to the hype that surrounded him coming into college. Combine that with what has seems to be a pretty questionable attitude and that has a recipe for some draft night slippage.

If I'm a GM the first thing I'm asking him is why he felt it was okay to lie to everyone around him for years. It's a damn shady thing to do and these insane parent/handlers aren't just going to disappear once he's in the NBA. Off the court behavior can be every bit as important as how good he is on it.

GreenRiddler · Post #198 » by **GreenRiddler** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:29 am

Norm2953 wrote:It's been a horrible tournament for the top 5 projected picks with only McLemore
having a chance of rebounding. If Portland somehow pulls itself in contention for
the #8 spot in the playoffs, I'd be more than happy to let the Bobcats have our
pick.

i didn't know we were competing for a top 5 pick this year.

Village Idiot · Post #199 » by **Village Idiot** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:28 am

I'm pretty underwhelmed by the crop of college players this year.

Victor Oladipo is the only guy I see out there that could come right in and make us a better team. Dieng would be ok too but would be a major reach at #12 considering his age. Same with Whitey.

From abroad Rudy Gobert is intriguing.

Anybody know if we can choose to forgo the protection on the pick and give it to Charlotte if we don't like what's available?

marsblazer · Post #200 » by **marsblazer** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:46 pm

It does seem that the same quality of player will be available to us with our second rounders than at #12. the only worry I have is someone slipping to 12 like a Bennett or Shabazz that do have some "star" potential... I would love to be able to get a Franklin or hardawy jr. in the second round