Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part II

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

We have to take a look at Khalif Wyatt in the late 1st / early 2nd. I live in Philly so I've been following Temple. Ihave questioned his draft stock because he is probably a below average athlete but what a feel for the game...

Khalif Wyatt has played well in two NCAA games, one against Indiana and Victor Oladipo trying to defend him.

I want to know more about him --

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/co ... story.html

Dayton, Ohio — In the NCAA tournament’s first round, no player in the country scored more points than Khalif Wyatt, Temple’s senior guard with the senior-citizen skill set.

Wyatt employs, in fact, the classic “old man’s game,” crafty and resourceful but far from slick or polished. His repertoire ranges from the jaw-dropping to the head-scratching, the kind of moves you expect to see in a YMCA pickup game, not necessarily the NCAA tournament.

“You do kind of live with what Khalif gives you,” Temple Coach Fran Dunphy said Saturday. “Most of it is good. And there’s some that will drive you a little bit crazy.”

“Coach Dunphy has definitely made me — well, him and the rest of the staff, definitely — made me a better player and better person,” Wyatt said. “Definitely owe a lot to my coaches and my teammates.”

This season, Wyatt has evolved into a more consistent and dependable teammate. He finds ways to score. When his shots aren’t falling, he gets to the free throw line. In the conference tournament, he shot 1 of 8 behind the three-point arc but managed 30 points against VCU. And Friday against N.C. State, Wyatt was 1 of 7 on three-point attempts yet scored a tournament-high 31, thanks in part to 14 free throw attempts.

“Whether you score a lot of points or you don’t, you just want to make sure that you left it all out there,” Wyatt said.

[nate33]

Zeller has been terrible all night. It seemed like every shot he took got blocked. Doesn't bode well for his success at the next level.

[mhd]

Len has GOT to be rated higher than Zeller especially after that clunker of a game. Zeller, IMO, will fall in the draft. Honestly, I think Gobert might be rated higher after all is said and done.

[nuposse04]

Zeller is a 3 inch taller version of Tyler Hansborough, he just barrels into you hoping the ball goes in or that the refs bail him out with a foul call. He was terrible defensively and against a small temple team got worked in the low post. His only real usefulness out there was getting bail out foul calls. He'd fit in real well on OKC. I'm not sure if he's top 7 worthy.

I also don't see what people see in Oladipo...yes that was a clutch shot, but I think it was general incompetence on Temple's part in not getting Wyatt the ball as oppose to his ball denial. Khalif was the best player on the floor today, its a shame that virtually nobody on his team could hit an open shot.

[nuposse04]

Gobert's celing is WAYYYY higher than any big in this draft class, but he has a high bust factor already. Zeller's floor is a semi competent energy "big" (he plays smaller than he ought to). I think he also has the benefit of being surrounded with a superior supporting cast. You generally don't have the luxury if you're a top 7 pick,

[stevemcqueen1]

McAdoo vs. Withey should be interesting. Total mismatch in Withey's favor but I want to see how McAdoo fights for position and rebounds. He's going to have to do his scoring from outside today.

[hands11]

Zeller has been terrible all night. It seemed like every shot he took got blocked. Doesn't bode well for his success at the next level.

Or he got knocked to the ground.

If he didn't get the foul calls he gets, he would look even worse.

I question if I would even take him in the 2nd round let alone the first.

Looks like we get to see him at least one more game but I doubt my opinion is going to change.

I would be more interested in Sheehey then Zeller

[hands11]

Zeller is a 3 inch taller version of Tyler Hansborough, he just barrels into you hoping the ball goes in or that the refs bail him out with a foul call. He was terrible defensively and against a small temple team got worked in the low post. His only real usefulness out there was getting bail out foul calls. He'd fit in real well on OKC. I'm not sure if he's top 7 worthy.

I also don't see what people see in Oladipo...yes that was a clutch shot, but I think it was general incompetence on Temple's part in not getting Wyatt the ball as oppose to his ball denial. Khalif was the best player on the floor today, its a shame that virtually nobody on his team could hit an open shot.

Exactly.

As for VO. He would be a great bench player. He should be a legit NBA player if for no other reason he can play D and he can hit the 3. Anything more he develops, you count that as gravy. I wouldn't draft him thinking he was going to be a starter.

But I would say the same thing for most of this draft class.

[stevemcqueen1]

Kansas is pretty feast or famine. They shouldn't struggle to score with McLemore on the court. He's too passive. He should be able to flip the switch and put his team on his back but he just doesn't do it that often.

[stevemcqueen1]

Hairston is chucking today. He can't get anything to fall.

[Doctor Bombay]

A friend of mine who is a Miami alum has been touting the virtues of Kenny Kadji all year to anyone who will listen, so I decided to scope him out a bit. His age (25) worries me, but I like the floor-spacing potential he provides.

His TS and eFG are 0.57 and 0.55 respectively, which he's maintained since he transferred to Miami last year. He hit the 3 at a half-decent clip this year at almost 36%, down from 42% last year. He's been a bit weak on the defensive glass, but hes up from 5.1 per 40 last year to 7.5 this year. He's a legit 6'11", and seems at least adequate defensively.

I dunno. Might be worth a look when our early 2nd comes around, but he may have played himself into the late 1st.

[FAH1223]

McLemore's doing a great job of making himself look like a less aggressive version of Anthony Morrow with each passing game.

[nate33]

McLemore is laying an egg tonight. 0-9 from the floor.

Seems like all the top prospects have done nothing but hurt their draft position in the Tournament. Maybe Noel did the smart thing by getting hurt and sitting it out.

[nate33]

UNC's defense is awful.

[Ruzious]

I didn't see the Indy/Temple game, but from reading the posts here, I would have expected a McAdoo like boxscore for Zeller. Instead, I see 4 of 10 from the floor and 7 of 8 from the line. And listening to the highlights, he made the pass to Oladipo for the game-clinching 3. So, Indy with - from the accounts here that both Zeller and Oladipo stunk beyond words - still beat Temple - in spite of one of Temple's players having a ridiculously good game. I think Indy's got 4 games left, so you can take a better look.

[Ruzious]

UNC's defense is awful.

They got away with elbowing Withey in the head a few times in the first half, but he just destroyed McAdoo at both ends in the 2nd half. UNC made him look like Shaq out there - and not the Shaq on Maryland. And if McAdoo had any outside game, we would have seen it, because you gotta lure Withey outside. He didn't, and he doesn't.

[hands11]

Withey Withey Withey Withey

Dude was a beast. He just blocked a shooter out of the 3 line.

He is no All Star, but he is a solid big 7-0 defensive center that can block shots, bang and rebound.
17 rebounds 5 blocked shots. His game will translate nicely as a back up center.

He isn't Drummonds, but he is a hell of a lot better then Zeller.

Travis Releford was impressive. 6-6 SG

McLemore ? Dude is soft. I hate soft players. What an egg he laid 0-9 2 pts and his team still won.

[nuposse04]

I didn't see the Indy/Temple game, but from reading the posts here, I would have expected a McAdoo like boxscore for Zeller. Instead, I see 4 of 10 from the floor and 7 of 8 from the line. And listening to the highlights, he made the pass to Oladipo for the game-clinching 3. So, Indy with - from the accounts here that both Zeller and Oladipo stunk beyond words - still beat Temple - in spite of one of Temple's players having a ridiculously good game. I think Indy's got 4 games left, so you can take a better look.

Temple players outside of Wyatt had some decent looks, they just couldn't really knock anything down. I think 3 of temple starters were 0/17 at one point, which is pretty wretched. I thought at least twice Zeller threw himself into a defender who had his arms straight up and the ref just bailed him out. The IND fans started booing hard when he didn't get the calls, I think the refs began to just try to get the crowd off their back. Oladipo got burned in the 1st half, but it was either his ball denial or Temple's inability to get Khalif the ball in the 2nd half that quieted him.

I'm reminded of a poor man's Harden by Khalif. He's got an old mans game. He could be a good bench scorer at the next level.

Yes to Withey bandwagon. I wasn't a believe in him last year but I gotta eat some crow regarding him. I could see him being like a more fluid Roy Hibbert. I think he needs to put on a few more lbs but he's going to be great value for whoever lucks in picking him up.

[stevemcqueen1]

UNC's defense is awful.

They got away with elbowing Withey in the head a few times in the first half, but he just destroyed McAdoo at both ends in the 2nd half. UNC made him look like Shaq out there - and not the Shaq on Maryland. And if McAdoo had any outside game, we would have seen it, because you gotta lure Withey outside. He didn't, and he doesn't.

It was a mismatch and McAdoo isn't a good enough shooter to use the spacing which was his only advantage. When he tried to drive Kansas was totally successful collapsing on him and forcing him into bad shots. The spacing wasn't there today with how good Kansas's D is and it didn't help Bullock was taken out of the game from early foul trouble and Hairston was struggling too. McAdoo was pressing, him and Hairston were both chucking trying to make something happen. The team tried to push the tempo but didn't produce good shots. UNC just couldn't match up with a superior Kansas squad.

But I don't think his performance against Withey is damning or anything. He's not going to play the 5 in the NBA. Withey is, and Withey is also 23 and was a complete scrub when he was McAdoo's age.

[nuposse04]

^True but McAdoo's got a higher pedigree then Withey did I think. McAdoo is fairly inefficient from the field. He's not a good shooter, not a particularly amazing rebounder. He's basically a poor man's Chris Singleton. Which isn't all that......good. Luckily, he is 20, so he has lots of time to improve. He's inbetween positions though so I'm not sure what he'll end up as. If He can get a steady jumpshot who could make for an adequate stretch 4.